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Wisconsin 17, Iowa 13 (final)

jlb1705;937781; said:
Bielema was being lauded at the end of the broadcast for starting his career with a 16-1 record. That is a nice start, but it's not as nice as it sounds when you consider that Bielema hasn't faced Ohio State yet and hasn't played a regular season non-conference game against anybody of consequence. Their bowl win against Arkansas was nice, but Arkansas is an extremely flawed team with a lousy head coach. Let's see what his record looks like at the end of this season.

The guaranteed win against OSU every other year at the Shoe would only help his winning percentage. :)

Wisconsin really dominated defensively in this contest when they weren't ordered to go in a prevent shell by the conservative coaches. Wisconsin has been dominant against fairly traditional offenses dating back to last year. And they have a very similar cast of characters. I'd say OSU plays a pretty traditional offense. They'll have Boeckman running for his life all day and confused where the targets are. While Wells will have a hard time finding space against speedy linebackers like Casillas, Levy, and Hodge.

It should be another defensive struggle. However, the Badgers should see the return of WR Paul Hubbard before that game. We'll have the opportunity to develop receivers (we aren't void of options), and determine if Tyler Donovan is the better option at QB than Allan Evridge.

To say Wisconsin is overrated is a pretty dicey statement. Top 5 or so underrated team in college football since the 90's according to Stassen. We win ugly, but we win. 13 straight I believe.

See you in November. :wisc2:
 
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Bernini;937819; said:
The guaranteed win against OSU every other year at the Shoe would only help his winning percentage. :)

Wisconsin really dominated defensively in this contest when they weren't ordered to go in a prevent shell by the conservative coaches. Wisconsin has been dominant against fairly traditional offenses dating back to last year. And they have a very similar cast of characters. I'd say OSU plays a pretty traditional offense. They'll have Boeckman running for his life all day and confused where the targets are. While Wells will have a hard time finding space against speedy linebackers like Casillas, Levy, and Hodge.

It should be another defensive struggle. However, the Badgers should see the return of WR Paul Hubbard before that game. We'll have the opportunity to develop receivers (we aren't void of options), and determine if Tyler Donovan is the better option at QB than Allan Evridge.

To say Wisconsin is overrated is a pretty dicey statement. Top 5 or so underrated team in college football since the 90's according to Stassen. We win ugly, but we win. 13 straight I believe.

See you in November. :wisc2:

Funny how we didn't hear a whole lot of yapping after a certain team squeaked by UNLV and gave up all those points to the Citadel. Didn't look like too many people "running for their lives all day" in those games. If you want to thump your chest after beating a team coming off of a loss to a school that couldn't even beat I-AA Northern Iowa the week before, or if you want to put words in people's mouths like "overrated" so you can feel some sort of self-motivated indignance, please, by all means, whatever. We played today too, against a team probably somewhere in the realm of UNLV and the Citadel, and we had a scoreboard that read 35-0 in the first 20 minutes.

We'll see you in November alright.
 
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Bernini;937819; said:
The guaranteed win against OSU every other year at the Shoe would only help his winning percentage. :)

Wisconsin really dominated defensively in this contest when they weren't ordered to go in a prevent shell by the conservative coaches. Wisconsin has been dominant against fairly traditional offenses dating back to last year. And they have a very similar cast of characters. I'd say OSU plays a pretty traditional offense. They'll have Boeckman running for his life all day and confused where the targets are. While Wells will have a hard time finding space against speedy linebackers like Casillas, Levy, and Hodge.

It should be another defensive struggle. However, the Badgers should see the return of WR Paul Hubbard before that game. We'll have the opportunity to develop receivers (we aren't void of options), and determine if Tyler Donovan is the better option at QB than Allan Evridge.

To say Wisconsin is overrated is a pretty dicey statement. Top 5 or so underrated team in college football since the 90's according to Stassen. We win ugly, but we win. 13 straight I believe.

See you in November. :wisc2:

I agree that it's gonna be a tough game for the Buckeyes. I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of how the Badger defense will affect Boeckman though. I'm not sure anybody knows yet how that matchup will take shape. As a first time starter he is growing into his role and improving with every game. By the same token, he hasn't faced a defense yet of the caliber of Wisconsin. This game against Iowa should not be used to size up Ohio State though. The Hawkeye offensive line is not in the class of Ohio State's, so I think it'll take a little extra something from Wisconsin to affect Boeckman like they did Christensen tonight.

I'm not sure how much of tonight's game was about Wisconsin being dominant on defense (like you said, outside of playing prevent) and how much of it was Iowa's ineptitude. Really, Iowa finished with roughly the same level of offensive production tonight as what they had against NIU and Iowa State. I'm not saying the Wisconsin is in a class with those two, but Iowa's offense overall just isn't good.
 
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Bucklion;937827; said:
Funny how we didn't hear a whole lot of yapping after a certain team squeaked by UNLV and gave up all those points to the Citadel. Didn't look like too many people "running for their lives all day" in those games. If you want to thump your chest after beating a team coming off of a loss to a school that couldn't even beat I-AA Northern Iowa the week before, or if you want to put words in people's mouths like "overrated" so you can feel some sort of self-motivated indignance, please, by all means, whatever. We played today too, against a team probably somewhere in the realm of UNLV and the Citadel, and we had a scoreboard that read 35-0 in the first 20 minutes.

We'll see you in November alright.

Thump my chest? I was defending my team like any good Badger fan should. I was here defending my team I believe following the Citadel game, only the attacks weren't so vicious.

Citadel and UNLV both play spread-option offenses. Wisconsin contained both offenses. Michigan proved today the gargantuan difference between playing a spread-option offense and a traditional offense. They dominated. Wisconsin dominated on defense as well. Those (Citadel and UNLV) games don't project at all to the future big Ten games, or OSU game, unless you change your offense.

And you're using the transitive property to indicate what kind of team Iowa is? You should know by now that doesn't translate in football. Iowa has lost to awful Iowa State teams in the past and proceeded to win the big ten. They always save their best performance for Wisconsin. That's a rivalry game. By the same token, Wisconsin has saved their best performance for OSU. Against Washington State in the opener, the Badgers were very impressive. That was a dominating performance in spite of the scoreline. Even their fans acknowledged it was more realistically a 49-14 or 56-14 game.
 
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Bernini, you may be right. Wisky may come in and "have Boeckman running for his life." The great thing is we will be able to settle it on the field. Just don't expect that guaranteed win this year. We have talent like no team you guys have faced so far and we have revenge on our side. Don't for a second think that Tressel won't play the revenge card. We'll be ready, hope you guys will be also. See you in November indeed.
 
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Bernini;937835; said:
Thump my chest? I was defending my team like any good Badger fan should. I was here defending my team I believe following the Citadel game, only the attacks weren't so vicious.

Citadel and UNLV both play spread-option offenses. Wisconsin contained both offenses. Michigan proved today the gargantuan difference between playing a spread-option offense and a traditional offense. They dominated. Wisconsin dominated on defense as well. Those (Citadel and UNLV) games don't project at all to the future big Ten games, or OSU game, unless you change your offense.

And you're using the transitive property to indicate what kind of team Iowa is? You should know by now that doesn't translate in football. Iowa has lost to awful Iowa State teams in the past and proceeded to win the big ten. They always save their best performance for Wisconsin. That's a rivalry game. By the same token, Wisconsin has saved their best performance for OSU. Against Washington State in the opener, the Badgers were very impressive. That was a dominating performance in spite of the scoreline. Even their fans acknowledged it was more realistically a 49-14 or 56-14 game.
Wisky sucks, you suck, end of story.
 
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Bernini;937835; said:
Thump my chest? I was defending my team like any good Badger fan should. I was here defending my team I believe following the Citadel game, only the attacks weren't so vicious.

Citadel and UNLV both play spread-option offenses. Wisconsin contained both offenses. Michigan proved today the gargantuan difference between playing a spread-option offense and a traditional offense. They dominated. Wisconsin dominated on defense as well. Those (Citadel and UNLV) games don't project at all to the future big Ten games, or OSU game, unless you change your offense.

And you're using the transitive property to indicate what kind of team Iowa is? You should know by now that doesn't translate in football. Iowa has lost to awful Iowa State teams in the past and proceeded to win the big ten. They always save their best performance for Wisconsin. That's a rivalry game. By the same token, Wisconsin has saved their best performance for OSU. Against Washington State in the opener, the Badgers were very impressive. That was a dominating performance in spite of the scoreline. Even their fans acknowledged it was more realistically a 49-14 or 56-14 game.

You call that vicious? That's a rather thin skin for a Wisconsin fan, don't you think?

And so you say my "transitive property" doesn't translate, but somehow yours does? As in every team that runs the same kind of offense is obviously the same, so if OSU doesn't run the spread then therefore we can't do anything against you and we might as well not show up? Uh, OK. I'm sure if Florida International ran the spread they would have scored as many points as Oregon did against Michigan...I mean same offense right? Oh and I guess the Washington State game magically has future predictive power that the Citadel and UNLV games don't because...oh, you played better that game! Of course!

Don't get me wrong, I am by no means guaranteeing a win against Wisconsin, or saying Wisconsin might not end up winning the Big 10 even, but to somehow pump up Iowa as some sort of team that is on the cusp of greatness because you want to say your defense is invincible against a non-spread offense is borderline Notre Dame-ish reasoning.
 
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If you think Iowa has a good defense you are in for one hell of a suprise. We have several injured players and are starting to hit stride. We have alot more depth on defense than anybody in the B10. We can sub and not lose much. We held NW to 20 yards in the first half!!! i DON'T GIVE A SHIT IF IT WAS A COMMUNITY COLLEGE THATS AWESOME. Our starting defense has given up 13 points all season.

Comparing schedules IMO Washingtonis better than WSU and would beat Iowa.

If our OL, QB, and WR's continue to improve we are gonna be awesome by the time we face you. Our defense is starting to gel as well as the offense. I don't know if there is a team on our schedule that can score more than 14 on our defense without us helping them.

If we can eliminate the fumbles and bad snaps on special teams we are gonna be something by the time we face you guys.

OSU 31 Wisconsin 6
 
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