Buckskin86
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Clarett was the #1 pick two years ago.
and I think Gamble was last year
and I think Gamble was last year
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MyDixieWrecked
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I think they will open it up in groups again, but I will go with Mangold, because that position is so thin, again. You want to have the most first teamers on the O-line, because there is a huge drop-off. Plus you have to have the center/QB snap right or you cannot do anything.
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I will go with Underwood.
The strategy in the draft in past years has been to go with players that give you a wide disparity over the next choice. The advantage is not that big to take Schelgel and lose Hawk, or to take Sims and lose Mangold.
But since Fox as a senior will already be on a team Underwood becomes critical. Whover doesn't have Fox can't afford to let Underwood go and end up with Youboty and ??? Not with all the WR talent that is available.
The strategy in the draft in past years has been to go with players that give you a wide disparity over the next choice. The advantage is not that big to take Schelgel and lose Hawk, or to take Sims and lose Mangold.
But since Fox as a senior will already be on a team Underwood becomes critical. Whover doesn't have Fox can't afford to let Underwood go and end up with Youboty and ??? Not with all the WR talent that is available.
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CleveBucks
Serenity now
I gotta go with Holmes. Too valuable on kick and punt returns not to take him first.
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DiHard
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i doubt that holmes returns too many punts or kickoffs in the spring game...at least i hope he doesnt....
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I don't see Holmes returning any kicks this year. I bet Childress and Hall will be the main kickoff returners. Not sure who'll be returning punts...maybe Ginn?
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LoKyBuckeye
I give up. This board is too hard to understand.
Maybe Troy Smith will return some kicks... it would give a chance to get on the field if he doesn't beat out Zwick. I beleive he was out there last year.
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DiHard
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the only way smith returns kicks is if sebastian bach beats him out for the backup qb spot.....
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I posted this on B-nuts:
QB
Order: Smith, Zwick, Boeckman, other guy
Why: I am one of the biggest JZ fans out there and know that he will be the starter, but whoever gets the first QB pick also gets the 3rd, so what is the point of having 2 pro-style QB's? If Smith is picked first they still get Boeckman 3rd and can use Smith at more than just QB. This is unless the players see Smith as behind Zwick and Boekman then he will drop to 3rd. Let the Troy Smith fans rejoice until the game is over and Zwick wins again.
OL
Order: Mangold, Sims, Schafer, Datish, ?
Assuming that Barton is out
Why: The center is the most important player on the O-line especially for the team that drafts Zwick since he spends most of his time with Mangold. Sims is a good consolation prize
WR
Order: Holmes, Hall, Gonzo, Jordan, Hiley, ?
Bam and Hollins are already out there so the teams will have to draft according to who they have. Bam with Hall, Hollins with Holmes.
TE
Up in the air. Hamby and Irizarry are both good so everyone wins.
DL
Who is healthy?
Order: Pitcock, Kudla, Patterson(is he playing?), Richardson, Frost, Green, Penton, ?
Why one team will already have Fraser. The best DT will go first to stuff the run that is Pitcock. Kulda has the most experience so he will go second.
LB
Order: Hawk(if 100%), Schlegel, Carp, Kerr, Lukens, Freeman, ?
Out: D'Animal <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( -->
<!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->
Why: Too many good players everyone wins. Hawk might not be first if his knee isn't 100% yet.
CB
Order: Underwood, Youboty, ?
Why: Fox is taken, but who else do we have that we have seen?
S
Order: Whitner, Salley, Everett, Mitchell
Why: Tough choice between Whitner and Salley, but they will be the first 2 taken
Rosters (what I would like to see anyway):
QB
Zwick...........Smith
...................Boekman
RB
Flydell...........Mo Hall
....................Pittman
FB
Schnittker.....Joe
WR
Roy Hall........Holmes
Bam..............Hollins
Gonzo............Hiley
Jordan
TE
Irizarry..........Hamby
OL
Mangold.........Sims
Kne...............Olds
Schafer...........Datish
Downing..........Coleman
Rehring............Steve Winner
DL
Fraser...............Kudla
Pitcock..............Patterson
Green...............Penton
Richardson........Frost
LB
Hawk...............Schlegel
Carp.................Kerr
Mathews...........Freeman
Lukens
CB
Fox...................Underwood
Youboty.............Roberts
S
Salley................Whitner
Everett...............Mitchell
P/K
Nugent...............Huston
Trapasso (sp.......Pierce
QB
Order: Smith, Zwick, Boeckman, other guy
Why: I am one of the biggest JZ fans out there and know that he will be the starter, but whoever gets the first QB pick also gets the 3rd, so what is the point of having 2 pro-style QB's? If Smith is picked first they still get Boeckman 3rd and can use Smith at more than just QB. This is unless the players see Smith as behind Zwick and Boekman then he will drop to 3rd. Let the Troy Smith fans rejoice until the game is over and Zwick wins again.
OL
Order: Mangold, Sims, Schafer, Datish, ?
Assuming that Barton is out
Why: The center is the most important player on the O-line especially for the team that drafts Zwick since he spends most of his time with Mangold. Sims is a good consolation prize
WR
Order: Holmes, Hall, Gonzo, Jordan, Hiley, ?
Bam and Hollins are already out there so the teams will have to draft according to who they have. Bam with Hall, Hollins with Holmes.
TE
Up in the air. Hamby and Irizarry are both good so everyone wins.
DL
Who is healthy?
Order: Pitcock, Kudla, Patterson(is he playing?), Richardson, Frost, Green, Penton, ?
Why one team will already have Fraser. The best DT will go first to stuff the run that is Pitcock. Kulda has the most experience so he will go second.
LB
Order: Hawk(if 100%), Schlegel, Carp, Kerr, Lukens, Freeman, ?
Out: D'Animal <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( -->
Why: Too many good players everyone wins. Hawk might not be first if his knee isn't 100% yet.
CB
Order: Underwood, Youboty, ?
Why: Fox is taken, but who else do we have that we have seen?
S
Order: Whitner, Salley, Everett, Mitchell
Why: Tough choice between Whitner and Salley, but they will be the first 2 taken
Rosters (what I would like to see anyway):
QB
Zwick...........Smith
...................Boekman
RB
Flydell...........Mo Hall
....................Pittman
FB
Schnittker.....Joe
WR
Roy Hall........Holmes
Bam..............Hollins
Gonzo............Hiley
Jordan
TE
Irizarry..........Hamby
OL
Mangold.........Sims
Kne...............Olds
Schafer...........Datish
Downing..........Coleman
Rehring............Steve Winner
DL
Fraser...............Kudla
Pitcock..............Patterson
Green...............Penton
Richardson........Frost
LB
Hawk...............Schlegel
Carp.................Kerr
Mathews...........Freeman
Lukens
CB
Fox...................Underwood
Youboty.............Roberts
S
Salley................Whitner
Everett...............Mitchell
P/K
Nugent...............Huston
Trapasso (sp.......Pierce
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daddyphatsacs
Let the cards fall...
Is Simon Frasier not playing in the spring game? It will be either him or AJ Hawk.
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DiHard
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ex...i was going to say that j.s. bach was going to be the first pick...but the qbs rotate from team to team during the spring game....good observation....
last year...krenzel and scotty mac only played a couple of series....i thought that would make bach the best pick........but they will rotate....
last year...krenzel and scotty mac only played a couple of series....i thought that would make bach the best pick........but they will rotate....
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"But since Fox as a senior will already be on a team Underwood becomes critical. Whover doesn't have Fox can't afford to let Underwood go and end up with Youboty and ??? "
"End up with" Youboty? I think Youboty is going to be a very good corner...
"End up with" Youboty? I think Youboty is going to be a very good corner...
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are whitner and everette permanent safeties now? i thought the thinking was whitner at least was to be a corner now?
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Everett is a safety. I know Duane seems to think Whitner is staying at safety. With his hitting ability and speed I like him back there and with both Underwoods, Youboty, Ginn, Lane and O'Neal on the way we seem pretty set at corner. We'll probably add another corner in this recruiting class as well.
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