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Who Dey! Bengals now 7-2...

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And with a week off to prepare for the Colts. Here's hoping they enter undefeated before succoumbing to the same fate that befell the KC Chiefs when they entered the Jungle undefeated 2 years ago.
 
The best thing about this season in Cincy (besides the 7-2) record is listening to the idiots whine about the Bengals' weak schedule. Uh, they've beaten everyone they should have; their two losses came against a good Jacksonville team on the road and against a very good Pittsburgh team. I'm unsure why their record should come under fire, but I'm positive the morons of the world will continue spewing their garbage.
 
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StooGrimson said:
The best thing about this season in Cincy (besides the 7-2) record is listening to the idiots whine about the Bengals' weak schedule. Uh, they've beaten everyone they should have; their two losses came against a good Jacksonville team on the road and against a very good Pittsburgh team. I'm unsure why their record should come under fire, but I'm positive the morons of the world will continue spewing their garbage.
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Look, I'm a Bengals fan, but that argument does not convince me. They have lost to 2 strong teams. That means they did not win two of the toughest games thus far on their schedule. They have beaten every team that they should have beaten. This means they did what they were expected to do with a relatively weak schedule - thus far.

Now, this past weekend was the 1st one of the start of the toughest portion of their schedule.

They get Indy (* Big Game), Baltimore at home, travel to Pittburgh (* Big Game), Cleveland, @ Detroit, Buffalo (* Not a Gimme), @ Kansas City (* Tough Away Game).

Now if they do better than 0.500 within that 7 game stretch - then I think you can talk of them having played well against a tough schedule.
 
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sandgk said:
Look, I'm a Bengals fan, but that argument does not convince me. They have lost to 2 strong teams. That means they did not win two of the toughest games thus far on their schedule. They have beaten every team that they should have beaten. This means they did what they were expected to do with a relatively weak schedule - thus far.

Now, this past weekend was the 1st one of the start of the toughest portion of their schedule.

They get Indy (* Big Game), Baltimore at home, travel to Pittburgh (* Big Game), Cleveland, @ Detroit, Buffalo (* Not a Gimme), @ Kansas City (* Tough Away Game).

Now if they do better than 0.500 within that 7 game stretch - then I think you can talk of them having played well against a tough schedule.
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I think we're arguing the same thing, but in different ways. I'm simply baffled by critics who hold the Bengals' weak schedule (something out of their control) against them.
 
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Congratulations Bengals, you've won the games you should have. You've done what's been asked of you and are a slightly above average team with a well above average record.

That being said...The only applicible "Who Dey" to this team is: "Who Dey Played?". Consistent teams win the games that they are expected to, but Good teams are expected to win more.

Cincinnati Paper Tigers.

EDIT: Check out the Sagarin Ratings for the NFL...pretty accurate in my estimation.
 
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Thump said:
More than can be said about their Ohio brethren who lost to the only winless team in the NFL!!

:slappy: :slappy:
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First of all, You can't find a post that I say Cleveland is as good as Cincy. Heck, you won't even find a post where I suggest the Browns are a decent team. I predicted the Browns to win 5 games this year and I don't even think they are as good as their record indicates.

Way to completely turn a conversation about the Bengals completely around and avoid the real issue. The Bengals wins are against teams with a combined 17-40 record. You've played three teams above .500 all year, lost two of them and beat a team that even my lowly Brownies managed to beat. Just like I said earlier...the Bengals are slightly above average...probably in the lower ranks of the top 15 in the NFL. They are NOT the powerhouse that Cincy-homers like to believe.

A true contender should win at least 2/3 of their games against .500+ opponents. A good team should win about half of those. You're 1/3 right now. Win 2/3 against the Colts, Steelers and Chiefs to break even and then spew your "Who Dey" garbage. Pussy Bengal fans don't even sign dings. If you can't make a decent argument, at least show some balls. :roll1:
 
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OilerBuck said:
First of all, You can't find a post that I say Cleveland is as good as Cincy. Heck, you won't even find a post where I suggest the Browns are a decent team. I predicted the Browns to win 5 games this year and I don't even think they are as good as their record indicates.

Way to completely turn a conversation about the Bengals completely around and avoid the real issue. The Bengals wins are against teams with a combined 17-40 record. You've played three teams above .500 all year, lost two of them and beat a team that even my lowly Brownies managed to beat. Just like I said earlier...the Bengals are slightly above average...probably in the lower ranks of the top 15 in the NFL. They are NOT the powerhouse that Cincy-homers like to believe.

A true contender should win at least 2/3 of their games against .500+ opponents. A good team should win about half of those. You're 1/3 right now. Win 2/3 against the Colts, Steelers and Chiefs to break even and then spew your "Who Dey" garbage. Pussy Bengal fans don't even sign dings. If you can't make a decent argument, at least show some balls. :roll1:
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Oiler,

That comment wasn't made at you, I have no idea if you like the Browns or not. Meant towards the other Cleveland Kool-Aid drinkers.

BTW, I didn't ding you either. Don't really know what you said that warranted a ding.

Probably Tibs though.
 
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Guess what oiler,

Records of your opponant don't matter what matters is what you do against the team you play.....period

The Bengals are 7-2. It's a fact. That puts them in first place 0f their division another fact. What I get sick and tired of is listening to people bitch and moan about well they have an easy schedule or this or that.

Guess what everyone in the divsion plays the same teams. The Bengals have no control over who they are going to play. The NFL sets that up not the team. The only thing that a team can do is go out and play their own games and try and win. Something that the Bengals have done 7 times. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that the Bengals are going to the Superbowl, they are not an elite team. But since getting Marvin Lewis the ground work has been layed, people who were bad for this team have gone. Team players have been brought in, and people aroound the league respect Marvin Lewis and that is going to pay ten fold in the future.

Call them paper tiger all you want, I would rather be called that then be the laughing stock of the league like the browns and texans.

Sorry you got dinged by who ever, trust me I'd rather call you post stupid to your face.
 
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OilerBuck said:
The Bengals wins are against teams with a combined 17-40 record. You've played three teams above .500 all year, lost two of them and beat a team that even my lowly Brownies managed to beat. Just like I said earlier...the Bengals are slightly above average...probably in the lower ranks of the top 15 in the NFL. They are NOT the powerhouse that Cincy-homers like to believe.

A true contender should win at least 2/3 of their games against .500+ opponents. A good team should win about half of those. You're 1/3 right now. Win 2/3 against the Colts, Steelers and Chiefs to break even and then spew your "Who Dey" garbage. Pussy Bengal fans don't even sign dings. If you can't make a decent argument, at least show some balls. :roll1:
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I think you'd be hard pressed to find any intelligent Bengal fans who would refer to their favorite team as a "powerhouse". Those that do are probably idiots drunk on Hudey Delight and Skyline chili. However, it's quite possible the Bengals could make the playoffs at 10-6 by knocking off the chumps of the NFL who they are expected to beat. If fans of other teams want to bash that, I say go right ahead b/c it doesn't matter one bit once the playoffs begin. The "critics" doing the bashing are likely just suffering from a sad case of potential playoff envy.

BTW...I wasn't the loser who dinged you and didn't sign. I agree that's quite pathetic.
 
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OilerBuck said:
Pussy Bengal fans don't even sign dings. If you can't make a decent argument, at least show some balls. :roll1:
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That is bizarre as well as weak whoever did it.
I'm pretty sure that no-one who actually contributed to this thread would have dinged you on what you wrote. Your most strident part was that Paper Tigers bit, but hell that's just taking a well recognized phrase and using it correctly, in context. As I think of it that deserves those other kinds of jewels - the ones you get for good writing :wink2:

Plus, in all kinds of ways everyone writing into this thread is saying much the same thing -- that the Bengals biggest test is coming up. You ask for them to go better than 2/3rd of the next stretch - thanks I'll be delighted with 5-2. I'll be happy with 4-3 mind you :biggrin:
 
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I guess I have a lot of replies and didn't feel like checking to see who said what...so I'm responding in bulk.

1. I think this is in response to Buckeyefool. I realize that you can't control who you play. Like I said, winning the games you are supposed to helps define you as a consistent team. The quality of opponents you beat makes you a good one. The Bengals are consistent and they play to their talent level. What I am suggesting is that they haven't won the games that will get them respect as a true player in the AFC. When put simply...I won't penalize you for beating cupcakes if you step up when you face off against someone decent. You HAVE to beat a few above average teams when given the shot.

2. Leave the Browns out of it. Them sucking has no relevance to the conversation.

3. If jealousy means that I wish the Browns were a better team, heck yeah I do. Just realize that I save my jealousy for teams like the Colts or USC or the Yankees. I have a deep rooted rivalry-like hate for the Bengals that likely skews my view of the Bengals much like many of you have your views skewed by being fans. I wish the Browns were better and I relize the Bengals are better...but I feel the Cleveland franchise has the front office and coaching staff to get us going in the right direction. We're bad, you're above average, but don't flatter yourselves by thinking that I'm jealous of your franchise.

4. Someone please warn me for whining about dings...I shouldn't have brought it up. I knew it was some newbie or something because it really didn't take me down hardly at all. I'd have warned myself on the graphics forum, but thought it would be better to stay within the system and having the post identified correctly. I hate it when other people do it...and it doesn't belong in this conversation.

5. Thump...I don't take things personal. I'm hoping you don't either. We're on the opposite sides on this one...but were both Buckeyes and fans of random mind-numbing threads. You can go after me all you want on this thread and I won't take it anywhere beyond...Homo :lol:
 
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OilerBuck said:
The Bengals wins are against teams with a combined 17-40 record. You've played three teams above .500 all year, lost two of them and beat a team that even my lowly Brownies managed to beat. Just like I said earlier...the Bengals are slightly above average...probably in the lower ranks of the top 15 in the NFL. They are NOT the powerhouse that Cincy-homers like to believe.

A true contender should win at least 2/3 of their games against .500+ opponents. A good team should win about half of those. You're 1/3 right now. Win 2/3 against the Colts, Steelers and Chiefs to break even and then spew your "Who Dey" garbage. Pussy Bengal fans don't even sign dings. If you can't make a decent argument, at least show some balls. :roll1:
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Just to compare AFC teams with two or less losses:

Record of Opponents Defeated:
Den 28-21 .571
Ind 23-42 .354
Pitt 18-33 .353
Cin 17-40 .298

Looks to me as though Denver is the only team who can claim to have played a difficult schedule with success. Plus if you take out Pittsburgh's win over Cincinnati (since they aren't really as good as their schedule indicates according to you) their defeated opponents record falls to 11-33 for a .250.

Record of Opponents Lost To:
Ind No Stats
Cin 11-5 .688
Den 9-7 .563
Pitt 9-7 .563

So, as we can see here, Cincinnati has actually lossed to teams with more respectable records than either Pittsburgh or Denver.

Overall Opponents:
Den 37-28 .569
Pitt 27-40 .403
Cin 28-45 .384
Ind 23-42 .354

Interestingly, Indianapolis turns out to be the team who has faced the least amount of competition this year if we base it on opponent's records. Of course, Cincinnati has played one extra game compared to the other three, who play Oakland (3-5), Cleveland (3-5), and Houston (1-7) this week during the Bengals' buy, which will lower their opponents' records.

Finally, as for teams played above .500:

Cincinnati has played three: Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, and Chicago
Pittsburgh has played three: San Diego, Jacksonville, and Cincinnati
Indianapolis has played one: Jacksonville
Denver has played five: San Diego, Kansas City, Jacksonville, Washington, and NY Giants

So, as you can see from these numbers, Pittsburgh is extremely close to Cincinnati when comparing strength of schedule and who they have beat; Indianapolis actually has had the softest schedule and therefore the most suspect according to your reasoning; and Denver is the only team in the AFC who can claim the right to being a great team at this point.
 
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