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BuckNutty

BuckNutty

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On Wednesday a friend of mine express mails me a package that was guaranteed to be here by Friday at 3:00pm. Well Friday comes and goes and I don't receive the box. This morning I let my dog out at around 9:15 and I see my mail man. He's got his truck stopped, heading in the opposite direction he usually is when he's delivering mail to my house. I watch him get out of the truck with one of those slips that tell you an attempt was made to deliver a package but no one was there to sign for it(Mind you this is not the first time this has happened, it's just the first time I've caught him in the act). As he opens my mailbox I come bounding out of my front door and I confront him. Here is the exchange:

Nutty: Do you feel it's appropriate to leave a notice saying you attempted to deliver a package when no such attempt was made.

Liar Mailman: That's not what I was doing

Nutty: Okay, what were you doing?

Liar Mailman: I was just leaving a notice but I was going to come back around to deliver the box and the rest of your mail.

Nutty: Huh? What kind of sense does that make? You were trying to sneak that notice in to make it look like you tried to deliever it yesterday weren't you?

Liar Mailman: No, I wasn't doin that at all. Wasn't doing that all. Nope.

Nutty: Bullshit, and if I hadn't seen you do it you would have left the slip and I wouldn't have been able to get the box before Christmas and the money my friend spent to get me the box in time for the Holidays would have been wasted. So is that why you were doing it, so you could put the slip in my mailbox making it look like you tried to deliever it yesterday and then my friend wouldn't have been able to get their money back?

Liar Mailman: Nope, I wasn't doing that all.

At this point he fills out the entire slip, scans it and tells me to have a Merry Christmas and that he'll be back to deliver the rest of my mail in an hour. Not one time did he look me in the eye and his hands were shaking when he was filling out the slip. I'm trying to decide whether or not I should should contact the Post Office. I doubt it would do a whole lotta good other than the fact it would make me feel better. Had this been the first time I would probably be more apt to let it go. Thoughts?
 
I'd immediately report it to the local Post Office followed by a contact with the Postmaster General's office and your Congressmen (House and Senate). Nothing like pressure from the top because obviously the local guy could not be trusted.
 
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I'd call the PO and tell em whats shakin, for sure. No, you wont get anywhere. But, I'd still call em. Actually, one time, the post man reported my dog as "aggressive" and left me a nastygram saying essentially, if i get chased or bit, you're in big big trouble.

I scribbled "Fuck you" on it, and hung it on my bulletin board. And then I called the post office. ASked Mr. Muckity Muck what this was all about. He says, well your dog must have threatended Mr. Mailman. I said, I don't see how this is likely. He says, "Well, it must have happened." I re-iterate, I find that unlikely. This goes on for a few minutes, and finally some progress is made.

I learn than postmen are not to "cut through" various areas of people's lawn, that its supposed to be sidewalk to driveway etc.. So, I says to Mr. Muckity Muck... Wait a minute Mr. Postman... You're telling me my carrier isn't allowed to walk thru my yard? He says, "Yeah." I said, well, then I REALLY don't see how my dog threatened him. He says, "Why's that" I said, because the closest my fence is (Had a fenced in yard which the Dog would sometimes stay out in) to the sidewalk is on the order of 30 - 45 feet. He says, "Oh? Well.. ummm... Well, we'll have to send someone out to check that." I said, OK, do so.

Well, they did so, and the guy actually called and said, I could disregard the nastygram, clearly my dog (who was out when he came by) isn't aggressive, and while he's big enough to jump the fence, there is nowhere the mailman could be that should provoke such a thing being some 30 - 45 feet away.... So, on his report, I disregarded the Nastygram.... which, as I already noted (see part about "fuck you") I already had.
 
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I probably wouldn't do anything right away, seeing as though it's the holidays and all...and Lord knows I am not envious of the job those people have to perform everyday. But eventually you are not going to have any choice but to contact the PO and tell them that your postman is a lazy moron. If they are going to keep raising the cost of postage then they should be held accountable for their level of service.
 
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Contacting your PO seems to be the best idea, but I'd wait till after the new year to do so. Unfortunately, there are always going to be people like this you will have to deal with, but you should do something about it.
 
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Whenever my postman delivers something and nobody is home they just leave it between the door and screen door. So I can't see if he did make an attempt(not saying he did, but just giving an example) why he didn't just leave the package at the door.

My postman walks between the houses(I've only seen him do it at the twin-double houses). I live in a "Twin-Double" with the opposite house 20 feet(maybe less) across from me. So my mailman cuts that 20 or so feet across the yard. We don't care, hell I would do the same thing.
 
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Call the PO for sure. This douche obviously does it consistently, and if you don't bring the hammer then he'll screw someone else out off a timely delivery. He gets paid a lot of money to sit his butt in his truck, and we pay a lot of money for him to deliver a particular service. If he were an employee of your company would you want to hear about it? Holiday- schmoliday, he brought it on himself.
 
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You'll get no satisfaction from the post office.

I think you load up a double-barreled shotgun and simply blast the guy in the chest the next time he approaches your house. Sure, you'll probably end up getting 20 years to life in a maximum security prison, being a butt-boy to a group of Aryan Assholes that lift weights all day (when they're not raping somebody in the showers).

But they can never take back the tremendous personal satisfaction you'll get from the moment you blew that bastard away. You just have to decide ahead of time if it's worth it. :biggrin:
 
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BB73 said:
I think you load up a double-barreled shotgun and simply blast the guy in the chest the next time he approaches your house. Sure, you'll probably end up getting 20 years to life in a maximum security prison, being a butt-boy to a group of Aryan Assholes that lift weights all day (when they're not raping somebody in the showers).
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I think that's overkill BB.... I see no reason to use a double barrel... single would work just fine.
 
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I would call the PO right away, more than likely they will act like they care and do nothing, but if you want to try to save your buddies cash you need to let them know ASAP.
This used to happen to me all the time. I would get certified mail every 2 weeks from my company to my home office. I can see the mailbox right out my window from my desk. The bastard would fill out the slip and write a note that said nobody was home, I needed to come an pick it up at the PO after 4. I would have to call them and make him bring it back to me. The saddest part was it happened every 2 weeks, and he never learned that I was watching him out the window every time. Just a habit that I am sure he used at every house.
 
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My sister-in-law down south is in the PO. She has been a Post Mistress (no salacious photos available, very sorry) - I asked here, here is her take.

Sounds like you may have somebody trying to pull an old shell game when it comes to filling guaranteed deliveries. You may also have something far less nasty going on.

Her guess is that the package needed signature - a service the sender can request. You were not there - package not delivered sans signature. Carrier omits to place notice in mail-box stating cause for lack of delivery. Fast forward to your 9:15AM story, carrier now tries to place "back-up" copy of the notice they should have left prior day. You catch carrier in that 'indiscretion" red-handed. Carrier is actually telling you the truth and was going to deliver the mail to you on their return to complete the route.
I mean, the carrier DID deliver the package to you that day - Yes, or No?

As for what to do - guess that depends on how tough you want to make life for a carrier around Christmas, presuming completion of delivery. These days the Post Office is looking for means to shed pensions - disciplinary actions can arise for relatively minor offenses. Should one (known) act of poor conduct lead to the loss of pension (let alone job) for this carrier?
 
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sandgk said:
Carrier is actually telling you the truth and was going to deliver the mail to you on their return to complete the route.
I mean, the carrier DID deliver the package to you that day - Yes, or No?
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That's just it, this schmuck has done this to me before, several times. Would he have delivered the package had I not caught him? I have no reason to believe he would have considering past experiences. I've seen him deliver mail to my house only to find a slip immediately after and he never tried to come to my door. It was only this time that I ambushed his ass. :biggrin:

sandgk said:
As for what to do - guess that depends on how tough you want to make life for a carrier around Christmas, presuming completion of delivery. These days the Post Office is looking for means to shed pensions - disciplinary actions can arise for relatively minor offenses. Should one (known) act of poor conduct lead to the loss of pension (let alone job) for this carrier
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At the time this happened I was pretty fired up. Part of this thread was merely meant to vent but I also wanted to see what people would do in my place. Do I want him fired or do I want him to lose his pension? Nope. Do I want to just take it in the tailpipe every time that miserable bastard wants to plays game with my mail? Absolutely not. Just wish there was some happy medium I guess.
 
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Is this him ?

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If so, don't waste your time.


On a serious note, I'd give Mr Newman 1 more chance. Now that you've called him out, he has to know you'll be watching his every move. He may
just move his routine to others and give you the expected service.

If it were to happen again, then I would definitely turn him in, but he sounds like you scared the heck out of him and should be fien for now.

Make sure you document the date of this transgression, in case you need to use it in the future.
 
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