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WC - Round of 16, Germany vs England (Sun 10 ET, ESPN)

Upon further review, I paid out on Lampard for scoring.

I agree with Oh8ch's point about not slowing the play for a review. But they've got to get the calls right on the goal line. The referee's assistant on the touchline was standing where he's supposed to be, 15 yards out to be in position to call any offsides. It's difficult to see from there, over 30 yards away from where the ball's crossing the line.

FIFA has rejected an RF chip inside the ball which would get the call right without delaying the game at all. I think the English will now support such technology. FIFA rejects chip

The Germans will call it justice for the 1966 World Cup final at Wembley Stadium, where Hurst's goal in overtime really didn't cross the line but was ruled a goal (it was very close, but all of the ball wasn't over the line. English fans, I don't wanna hear it, a study at Oxford said it was 6 cm short of clearing the line :wink2:). Hurst completed a hat trick in the last seconds of the game when Germany was desperate to attack, so the final was 4-2, but the controversial goal was the decider.
 
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Did anyone watch the World Cup Live post-game stuff on ESPN? They had the Jurgen Klinsmann (German) and Alexi Lalas talking about the future of USA soccer. It's easy to tell Lalas doesn't think Bradley is a good coach. I thought Jurgen brought up some very good points. Like how our soccer system is upside down from the rest of the world. Here people have to pay to play soccer at a younger level, nearly every where else in the world it's the opposite.
 
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CentralMOBuck;1723493; said:
A non continuous clock would be a great way to help stop all the flopping as well. Especially at the end of the match.

I agree with this, and mentioned if after the USA game yesterday. If the ref would instantly signal a stoppage of time, and everybody could see the clock to know that it wasn't moving, I think it would eliminate a lot of the stalling tactics. The clock should also stop from the time that a substitution is signaled until the time the play restarts, eliminating the guys from the leading team dawdling off the field.

It wouldn't stop guys faking injury in order to catch their breath, but it would be a significant step in cleaning up the game.
 
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CentralMOBuck;1723498; said:
Did anyone watch the World Cup Live post-game stuff on ESPN? They had the Jurgen Klinsmann (German) and Alexi Lalas talking about the future of USA soccer. It's easy to tell Lalas doesn't think Bradley is a good coach. I thought Jurgen brought up some very good points. Like how our soccer system is upside down from the rest of the world. Here people have to pay to play soccer at a younger level, nearly every where else in the world it's the opposite.

i saw it, found it interesting as well.....

Lalas wants Bradley out!!!
 
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CentralMOBuck;1723498; said:
Did anyone watch the World Cup Live post-game stuff on ESPN? They had the Jurgen Klinsmann (German) and Alexi Lalas talking about the future of USA soccer. It's easy to tell Lalas doesn't think Bradley is a good coach. I thought Jurgen brought up some very good points. Like how our soccer system is upside down from the rest of the world. Here people have to pay to play soccer at a younger level, nearly every where else in the world it's the opposite.

I have a 7 year old grandson who is turning out to be quite the athlete. He plays basketball, football and baseball. But if I ever showed up at his house with a soccer ball his Dad would kick my grass fairy ass into the next county.

Interest in soccer is slowly coming along. But even in the suburbs where it thrives it is often for the kids who aren't as proficient in the big three. While being a QB, Point Guard or shortstop will get you laid, playing soccer will as often as not get you "And what exactly does a midfielder do?"

And forget about soccer in the inner cities - which is where you will find the athletes that can some day put the US on the World Cup map.
 
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CentralMOBuck;1723498; said:
Did anyone watch the World Cup Live post-game stuff on ESPN? They had the Jurgen Klinsmann (German) and Alexi Lalas talking about the future of USA soccer. It's easy to tell Lalas doesn't think Bradley is a good coach. I thought Jurgen brought up some very good points. Like how our soccer system is upside down from the rest of the world. Here people have to pay to play soccer at a younger level, nearly every where else in the world it's the opposite.

And the US was so close to having Klinsmann as a manager.

With all due respect to Bruce Arena and Bob Bradley, I feel the US may need a foreign coach to reach the next level. A coach that will give the Yanks an identity I feel they may not have. At times it seems the team just has trouble with how they want to build up an attack, play through the midfield, and the defensive problems are well documented. Klinsmann discussed in the pre-match how when he was Germany's manager, they studied EPL, other club, and International teams to put together a game plan for "Die Manschafft" that would fit their culture.

Quote, not verbatim, "We are a very impatient society, so we wanted to find a quick, creative style to get the ball from our defense up to the strikers and attacking midfielders."

Very insightful for a manager that understands his team and where they come from. Granted the man is also German and has his own lore, so it would be irresponsible to assume it would work in American soccer. However, when asked about the starting 11 against Ghana following the game, Bradley replied, "It is what it is." Yeah, and that's how people will continue to view this sport in this country when we have performances like that.

To that point, no manager will take the US to the next level without the talent needed to make it there. The US is building, in due time, I suppose.
 
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With all due respect to Bruce Arena and Bob Bradley, I feel the US may need a foreign coach to reach the next level. A coach that will give the Yanks an identity I feel they may not have.

Now there is a statement that highlights the irony that is US soccer.
 
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Oh8ch;1723508; said:
Now there is a statement that highlights the irony that is US soccer.

I hope we can find an American coach that may bring the team together to perform at the level we know they are capable of. Bradley did that in group play, things seemed to change in the game against Ghana. There could be many reasons why.

It just seemed like at time in this tournament we struggled with what we wanted to do. Midfield play was stymied early, late we send balls in with no build up. I understand the team needs to score, get it in the attacking third, but it's difficult when Ghana has 7 defenders back. It's been discussed the US relied too much on the midfield for scoring and I agree with that. Maybe 4 years will give Altidore the time needed to mature and become the clinical finisher the team's making runs in the tourney have; Klose, Suarez, Villa, Higuan, Fabiano, etc...

I noted it would be irresponsible to assume a foreign coach could bring their style to America and have success. I'm not banging on Bradley, I think he has done well in his tenure, but "It is what it is"
 
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