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Vanderbilt 24, South Carolina 17 (Final)

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BB73;1248984; said:
SInce I had 3 million on Vandy, and another 3 million on the over - gladly. :biggrin:
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I feel like the guy who won $20 on the blackjack table while the whale was playing with seven-figured chump change in the High Rollers area. :wink:
 
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Best Buckeye;1248979; said:
This game is displaying one of the things I don't like about the new 40 sec rule. 3 Plays runs out the clock.
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Yes. But Spurrier made a huge blunder there at the end. SC had two TOs remaining, and when Vandy picked up the first down at 1:42 left, Spurrier blew one. Does he not know the clock rules go back to the old method where it stops on a first down under 2:00 minutes? Wound up being moot since Vandy picked up another first down, but that call could have been the difference between having to return the punt to win or having 20+ seconds left and the ball on Vandy's side of the field had SC held and got the ball back.
 
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Dryden;1248991; said:
Yes. But Spurrier made a huge blunder there at the end. SC had two TOs left, and when Vandy picked up the first down at 1:42 left, Spurrier blew one. Does he not know the clock rules go back to the old method where it stops on a first down under 2:00 minutes? Wound up being moot since Vandy picked up another first down, but that call could have been the difference between having to return the punt to win or having 30+ seconds left and the ball on Vandy's side of the field had SC held and got the ball back.
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It only stops til the chains are reset, that only takes about 10 seconds.
 
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Dryden;1248991; said:
Yes. But Spurrier made a huge blunder there at the end. SC had two TOs remaining, and when Vandy picked up the first down at 1:42 left, Spurrier blew one. Does he not know the clock rules go back to the old method where it stops on a first down under 2:00 minutes? Wound up being moot since Vandy picked up another first down, but that call could have been the difference between having to return the punt to win or having 20+ seconds left and the ball on Vandy's side of the field had SC held and got the ball back.
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They also didn't hustle out there fast enough when they punted it down to the 5-yard line. They could have saved another 5-10 seconds by hustling before that punt.

One FG blocked, one punt bounced off a blocker - it was a special teams disaster for the 'Ol Ball Coach.

It was weird for me, pulling for SC to score when it was 24-10, even though I'd bet on Vandy. I needed 7 more points, and didn't care who scored them, since Vandy +9.5 was safe unless they had a 2-score loss in one OT period.
 
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Dryden;1249000; said:
But the game clock winds from 25, not 40. With two TOs you don't blow one on first down, you save them for second and third.
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He should have used one on the play before that first down.
 
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BB73;1249006; said:
He should have used one on the play before that first down.
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I didn't have a problem with that since SOP is to conserve the timeouts for your own 2 minute offense. You hope the defense holds and forces the punt with over a minute left. If necessary, you use one of the two TOs when Vandy fails to convert on third down so they're punting away with ~1:42 on a stopped clock.

The timeout on first down really irked me when watching it in real-time, since that was a :15 differential SC gave up. That could have meant the difference between having to either block+scoop+score or return the punt for a TD, versus getting the ball on Vandy's side of the field with ~:20+ remaining and the old clock rules in play, which allow SC to take one shot down the middle to the TE that Vandy couldn't cover all night, then two shots into the end zone to tie.
 
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Vandy

I hate to say this, because I despise negative kharma. But, I love to see that pompous ass from SC and UF take one on the chin, and its all the better when he could have managed the game better. :biggrin:
 
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Dryden;1249057; said:
I didn't have a problem with that since SOP is to conserve the timeouts for your own 2 minute offense. You hope the defense holds and forces the punt with over a minute left. If necessary, you use one of the two TOs when Vandy fails to convert on third down so they're punting away with ~1:42 on a stopped clock.

The timeout on first down really irked me when watching it in real-time, since that was a :15 differential SC gave up. That could have meant the difference between having to either block+scoop+score or return the punt for a TD, versus getting the ball on Vandy's side of the field with ~:20+ remaining and the old clock rules in play, which allow SC to take one shot down the middle to the TE that Vandy couldn't cover all night, then two shots into the end zone to tie.
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I much prefer using TOs on defense once the clock gets under 3 minutes and the other team has a first down. They're worth almost 40 seconds when the other team is tackled in bounds, and they're only worth half on offense if your team is doing a decent job of running the hurry-up.

I'd rather have the ball with 1:30 and no timeouts than have 1 minute and 1 timeout; and I'd definitely rather have 1 minute and no TOs than 30 seconds and a timeout.
 
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BB73 is right, it's better to use timeouts on defense. On offense, you can control the clock by running out of bounds or throwing an incomplete pass. On defense you're completely at the mercy of the opposing offense. That's purely a strategic view, though, and doesn't account for variations in the tactical situation.
 
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I missed the game but had the misfortune of hearing Musberger gush over how "the Ol' Ball Coach" was gonna be in his element this week. Is crap an element? Or is it rather that he is now in his periodic table? :slappy:
 
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Steve19;1249348; said:
I missed the game but had the misfortune of hearing Musberger gush over how "the Ol' Ball Coach" was gonna be in his element this week. Is crap an element? Or is it rather that he is now in his periodic table? :slappy:
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I thought Mark May was his stupid idiotic self. HIs comments about that that vaunted SC defense were hilarious. :crazy:
 
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