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UFOs and the existence of other life

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greatwhitenorth

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Personally i don't really believe aliens have visited the earth, yes there is a lot of weird stuff that has happened to people but to automatically assume it was of alien nature is a mistake. I do believe there is other life in the universe, its just too big for there not to be, but because of its size i also find it hard to believe that they have made contact with us. If you guys have any thoughts to add to this feel free to comment.
 

Buckeyeskickbuttocks

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Can someone tell me why when people say they've seen UFO's or even aliens themselevs, they are dismissed as kooks and wackjobs .... and this despite the fact that it is perfectly acceptable, if not encouraged, to believe in a magicial, all powerful, all seeing, all knowing, grey haired man who lives in the sky and watches (and cares about) each and every move you make.
 
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BIATCHabutuka

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BuckinMichigan said:
I have no idea whether other lifeforms exist, advanced or otherwise, but considering recent advances in M-Theory to think we are alone is kind of depressing.
i don't want to sound like donny here, but could you elaborate. i enjoy following cosmology somewhat and haven't a clue what you are talking about with recent advances in string theory.
 
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scooter1369

HTTR Forever.
First off, let me say that there is no way life developed on this planet by chance. There had to be divine intervention of some sort. Too many factors involved to be a random act.

That said, why would "HE" create this huge universe and just one planet of life in the whole thing? Doesn't make sense. There has to be intelligent life elswhere in this galaxy. period.
 
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AKAK

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greatwhitenorth said:
Personally i don't really believe aliens have visited the earth, yes there is a lot of weird stuff that has happened to people but to automatically assume it was of alien nature is a mistake. I do believe there is other life in the universe, its just too big for there not to be, but because of its size i also find it hard to believe that they have made contact with us. If you guys have any thoughts to add to this feel free to comment.


Am I out of line here, but is this the political conversation and debate board... or shit that somebody believes with no real context to back it up board.

Is GWN using Donny's ISP or something?
 
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Buckeye513

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scooter1369 said:
That said, why would "HE" create this huge universe and just one planet of life in the whole thing? Doesn't make sense. There has to be intelligent life elswhere in this galaxy. period.
A couple of months ago my science teacher showed us an article saying that scientists have discovered a planet that is exactly identical to Earth. So, there's got to be life elsewhere.
 
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scooter1369

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Buckeye513 said:
A couple of months ago my science teacher showed us an article saying that scientists have discovered a planet that is exactly identical to Earth. So, there's got to be life elsewhere.
I'll have to look for that article. All I have read says they have found planets similar in makeup to ours (rock), but the size of Jupiter or bigger and at rather iffy distances in orbit from a star. I'll google for it and see what I can find.

The LBT (Large Binocular Telescope) in Arizona should help us find these planets in the next two years or less.
 
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AKAK

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Buckeye513 said:
A couple of months ago my science teacher showed us an article saying that scientists have discovered a planet that is exactly identical to Earth. So, there's got to be life elsewhere.

Exactly identical?
 
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greatwhitenorth

All-American
Am I out of line here, but is this the political conversation and debate board... or shit that somebody believes with no real context to back it up board
No this is the open discussion board, so this topic fits under open and i was just trying to generate discussion and not write some big long rant on whether i believe aliens are here or not
 
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Hubbard

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Buckeye513 said:
A couple of months ago my science teacher showed us an article saying that scientists have discovered a planet that is exactly identical to Earth. So, there's got to be life elsewhere.


Just because it is identical (I assume in size, distance from sun, etc.) doesn't mean it has life on it. I am willing to bet there are many earth-like planets out there, but it takes perfect conditions for life (as we know it) to start.
 
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scooter1369

HTTR Forever.
Found this in one article.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5819006/

In a discovery that has left one expert stunned, European astronomers have found one of the smallest planets known outside our solar system, a world about 14 times the mass of our own around a star much like the sun.

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It could be a rocky planet with a thin atmosphere, a sort of "super Earth," the researchers said Wednesday.

But this is no typical Earth. It completes its tight orbit in less than 10 days, compared with the 365 required for our year. Its daytime face would be scorched.

The planet's surface conditions aren't known, said Portuguese researcher Nuno Santos, who led the discovery. "However, we can expect it to be quite hot, given the proximity to the star."

Hot as in around 1,160 degrees Fahrenheit (900 degrees Kelvin), Santos told Space.com.

Still, the discovery is a significant advance in technology: No planet so small has ever been detected around a normal star. And the finding reveals a solar system more similar to our own than anything found so far.
 
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BuckBackHome

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BIATCHabutuka said:
i don't want to sound like donny here, but could you elaborate. i enjoy following cosmology somewhat and haven't a clue what you are talking about with recent advances in string theory.

Let me preface this by saying I never did well in physics. In my simple little mind, M-theory is basically a new form of String Theory. I saw a special on it a couple of months ago on PBS and it was pretty interesting. What stuck with me is that scientists now believe there are 11 dimensions and we may have multiple parallel solar systems and more. It really sounded like science fiction as they were theorizing there may be worlds where Hitler won WWII. Really crazy stuff.

http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/qg_ss.html
 
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