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Sounds kind of legit, but also take with a grain of salt:
Either way, would love to land Ford, and that's even if OSU would've landed Wafle
Either way, would love to land Ford, and that's even if OSU would've landed Wafle
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teeedawg 10 hours ago
Birm says he does not think the Buckeyes will land EDGE KJ Ford.
Our offer for him is about 25% of what other schools are offering. We are getting massively outbid in every single EDGE recruitment.
Said unless there is a change in NIL philosophy (Day + Pantoni) or an increase in budget (Ross Bjork), we will continue to swing and miss at the most expensive positions like EDGE.
teeedawg 10 hours ago
Birm went on to say that there are people inside the WHAC who believe they can "win the fight" for KJ Ford.
Birm says he's just not buying it anymore, he's seen this story too many times.
At a certain point, the monetary difference is so large the relationships don't even matter.
Admittedly, I would have a hard time turning down a job that paid me four times more too.
teeedawg 10 hours ago
Birm says he does not think the Buckeyes will land EDGE KJ Ford.
Our offer for him is about 25% of what other schools are offering. We are getting massively outbid in every single EDGE recruitment.
Said unless there is a change in NIL philosophy (Day + Pantoni) or an increase in budget (Ross Bjork), we will continue to swing and miss at the most expensive positions like EDGE.
teeedawg 10 hours ago
Birm went on to say that there are people inside the WHAC who believe they can "win the fight" for KJ Ford.
Birm says he's just not buying it anymore, he's seen this story too many times.
At a certain point, the monetary difference is so large the relationships don't even matter.
Admittedly, I would have a hard time turning down a job that paid me four times more too.
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I think Day and Pantoni are smart enough to realize that no one will come take 1/4 of what they can make somewhere else.
I wonder if it's a strategy/philosophy that says the Edge positions are so deep and so good every year that you get nearly the same talent for a lot less money "down market"?
I hope so because if not, you are playing with fire by not having elite talent at that position and at the same time letting your competitors have it.
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The amount of money guys like Wafle and Ford are getting is INSANE, I fully support not emptying the bank on these types of guys, if they were truly elite prospects, then maybe take a shot every now and then, but these are just solid not elite guys. I think they will scope out guys who are at least comparable in the end who don't command the insane NIL check.
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Yup. Pass. Give me kids like Khary Wilder & Sam Greer all day who are hungry & driven to do great things over the primadonnas that think that they've already made it
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The meltdown of some of our fan base has gotten ridiculous over these things. These people act like we are the only school having these things happen to us. The days of just a couple of schools loading up all the top end talent is over, it's more spread out then ever now. Those who can evaluate and develop those next tiers of players the best are going to be the winners going forward. A big part of this is retaining players and not losing a ton to the portal every year. Ohio State has been very good at this thus far.
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I was just saying this in the recruiting thread. The money will tip the scales for a number of kids. OSU will get there’s, and maybe winning consistently will help land maybe 1-2 of the talent of guys they’re missing this year. But that’ll be about it unless they start increasing their offers.
@BuckTwenty and @buckeyemania11 have very valid points. Going forward the successful teams will be the ones who are great talent evaluators, great babysitters and Have a little more luck than others. Because once the contracts start at the end of month it will interesting seeing how the transfers will be much more restrictive due to the buyouts. But it is funny seeing the constant freak out from fans like OSU didn’t just win the NC 6mos ago. I’m still basking in that, and knowing that the OSU coaching staff is one of the best top to bottom
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I could be wrong but I feel like the climate is brewing where there's going to be a avalanche of flips this fall, more than we've ever seen. Just seems like there's a lot of crazy NIL offers going out left and right at the moment that can't possibly all be sustainable. I think the vast majority if not all of the guys we currently have on board are all bought in to what Ohio State is selling, so it feels like there will be little to no flips when it comes to current commits for Ohio State.
The staff definitely deserves the benefit of the doubt at the moment, they seem to know what they are doing and are doing it rather well. I know It is frustrating to keep getting bag swooped on recruits (especially at DE) but in the end I suspect everything will work out fine.
We are still recruiting at a very high level, obviously DL and OL have had their lumps but everywhere else we've done very very well. When it comes to OL the portal has been good to us and we've executed well there. I think we will see the same with DL including this year with Atkinson to supplement for the losses on the HS recruiting trail when needed.
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a couple of points from 11W article that had some data in it (for whatever it's worth)
1- The total market of Rev share+ NIL is something like 2.75 Billion. I think that number should make us all pause and hopefully get rid of old ideas of what deals size make sense. There is something like 3 billion dollars at play here (and I will keep point to that number and reminding people that lawyers are going to be lining up to represent kids who are being told by the schools how much of that they are allowed to get).
2-YOY spend has increased 824%. That is an absurd percentage but it tells you something changed quite a bit in a year. Maybe it's more than just front loading contracts to get ready for this rev share rule book for as long as it may last. Point being what you did last year might not be the best strategy for right now, even if it's just a year old.
No one knows anything at this point but we are starting to see data points. Birm saying we are coming in at 25% of the offers some of the se kids are getting, market size, trends. It's going to take one league, a players union and a CBA. There is no way to do half assed professional sports unless you are ready to outspend everyone else.
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