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ttun Shenanigans and Arguments (2018 thread)

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Wrong scUM douchebag quarterback. Here you go:

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:lol: You know a group has lost touch with reality when you can't really tell if this sort of stuff is serious or parody.

SHOCKING that sports shock jocks/media personalities would conjure up rumors for views/clicks!

https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/how-exact-cost-media-lies-about-harbaugh-nfl

It has become such a regular joke, the annual Harbaugh-to-the-NFL rumors, that many stories are noting that regularity in their opening paragraphs.

This year, it hasn't stopped douchebag deluxe Paul Finebaum and drug abuser Cris Carter from supplying the 2018 edition of such rumors.

There are two things about such rumors. First is the simple fact that it is part of Finbaum's and Carter's respective business models to traffic in such rumors. They get attention; they get 'content' for 72 hours or so; and it is cost-free to them.

The second fact is that while the rumors are never a serious problem for the Michigan football problem, they are a minor concern. Recruits and their families read this stuff; I am sure that in almost all cases, they know better. But Harbaugh is sometimes compelled to respond; it can be a distraction to the program. The constant repetition and annual re-emergence of the same rumors is caustic.

The problem with the completely unserious world in which the Finebaums and Carters exist, is that they never have to answer for these things. They start the rumors, the rumors are denied, Finebaum gets a few more listeners and page-hits, and then next week it is on to something else. And when it comes time for the Finebaum speculation to actually materialize, the previous story is forgotten.

I'd like to see a permanent spreadsheet of all of the false rumors of Harbaugh departing to the NFL. Listing the media figure who is advancing it, his purported sources, the NFL team(s) he expects to sign Harbaugh, and the time at which a contract is expected to be signed. And leave it permanently posted as an MGoBoard sticky. For reference and a reminder when the rumor mongers say almost anything else about Michigan football.

In the alternative, I thought of simply betting Cris Carter $100,000 that Jim Harbaugh would be coaching the University of Michigan football team in 2019. Carter no doubt has the money. He probably got more than that for signing with agent Norby Walters before his senior season which got him declared ineligible for his final season at OSU. Anybody know how to get a message to Carter?

youn2948

December 21st, 2018 at 5:27 PM ^

Can we start suing them for slander and detriment to our football program when it's obvious it's otherwise?

I mean free speech and all but at what point is it blatant character assasination and a litigable offense?
 
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What's even better is anytime they lose a recruit to OSU, Alabama, Georgia, etc it's cause they have bag man etc. But Daxton Hill, Jabrill Peppers, Rashon Gary etc they got cause they wanted to do it the right way and acedemics. Sure guys...
Remember that Hill flipped for $.

So to get him back they must have out bid.
 
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Who will lead Michigan in rushing at the Peach Bowl?

There are a few options, and this will be hard to predict.


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Michigan will be taking on the Florida Gators in the Peach Bowl on Saturday, but they’ll be without a few big names, including running back, team captain, Karan Hidgon. Higdon* opted to sit out the Peach Bowl to prepare for the NFL Draft process.

* he's a pussy

Higdon’s absence will provide a chance for the rest of Michigan’s running backs to state their case for more snaps and carries in 2019.

Who will lead Michigan in rushing at the Peach Bowl


☐ Tru Wilson
☐ Christian Turner
☐ Chris Evans
☐ Shea Patterson
☒ Don't really give a shit?

Entire article: https://www.maizenbrew.com/football...ll-lead-michigan-in-rushing-at-the-peach-bowl

I know how I'll vote.......:slappy:
 
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Who will lead Michigan in rushing at the Peach Bowl?

There are a few options, and this will be hard to predict.


usa_today_11206997.0.jpg


Michigan will be taking on the Florida Gators in the Peach Bowl on Saturday, but they’ll be without a few big names, including running back, team captain, Karan Hidgon. Higdon* opted to sit out the Peach Bowl to prepare for the NFL Draft process.

* he's a pussy

Higdon’s absence will provide a chance for the rest of Michigan’s running backs to state their case for more snaps and carries in 2019.

Who will lead Michigan in rushing at the Peach Bowl


☐ Tru Wilson
☐ Christian Turner
☐ Chris Evans
☐ Shea Patterson
☒ Don't really give a shit?

Entire article: https://www.maizenbrew.com/football...ll-lead-michigan-in-rushing-at-the-peach-bowl

I know how I'll vote.......:slappy:

I was disappointed to discover the asterisk isnt part of the original article :lol:
 
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How do these guys get rated as a top-5 recruiting class for 2019 through the early signing period?

EDIT: I know the math of "how". I guess my question is more in the direction of: with all the talking and joking around here about their three-star army and what not, their ranking is a bit of surprise for me (I don't follow other recruiting sites). Is our talk on here just schadenfreude, or are the rankings total BS? I read somewhere, I can't remember where, that this is the first time TTUN's ranking is higher than ours in like 8 years?
 
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How do these guys get rated as a top-5 recruiting class for 2019 through the early signing period?

EDIT: I know the math of "how". I guess my question is more in the direction of: with all the talking and joking around here about their three-star army and what not, their ranking is a bit of surprise for me (I don't follow other recruiting sites). Is out talk on here just schadenfreude, or are the rankings total BS? I read somewhere, I can't remember where, that this is the first time TTUN's ranking is higher than ours in like 8 years?

Only espin rates them that highly, so that answers part 2.
Their #s from rivals are 1/14/12. Scout 1/15/11.
We kill them on avg, sitting at 3/8/5. Just not a big class for us... and i feel very good about some of those 3s as sleepers.
Throw in the guys theyre losing to draft w/nobody behind them, 4star from last year transferring just as he was going to be The Man on Dline for years, and the continued transfer QB cluster... ill take it every time.
All internal signs point to Harbaugh losing the locker room. This could well be his last tpp20 class.
 
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How do these guys get rated as a top-5 recruiting class for 2019 through the early signing period?

EDIT: I know the math of "how". I guess my question is more in the direction of: with all the talking and joking around here about their three-star army and what not, their ranking is a bit of surprise for me (I don't follow other recruiting sites). Is out talk on here just schadenfreude, or are the rankings total BS? I read somewhere, I can't remember where, that this is the first time TTUN's ranking is higher than ours in like 8 years?


Is there a place where the major service ratings per player exist historically as a data dump? There’s some pretty simple analysis that one could do to determine the effect of class ranking relative to individuals in the class on team performance.

My hypothesis is that large classes with a lower average ranking underperform the expected performance of a class based on the sum of scores alone. Essentially average rank is a better predictor of performance than sum of scores.

Since I’m done for the year and only have to figure out what we’re doing in SoCal for a week, I’d knock this out in short order if the data exists.

Anyone?
 
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Is there a place where the major service ratings per player exist historically as a data dump? There’s some pretty simple analysis that one could do to determine the effect of class ranking relative to individuals in the class on team performance.

My hypothesis is that large classes with a lower average ranking underperform the expected performance of a class based on the sum of scores alone. Essentially average rank is a better predictor of performance than sum of scores.

Since I’m done for the year and only have to figure out what we’re doing in SoCal for a week, I’d knock this out in short order if the data exists.

Anyone?

No idea on the data dump part but I do have some questions about the logic of the 3 star army strategy;
  • The "pro" side of the 3 star army approach, theoretically, is that you give yourself more opportunities to find the under scouted gem and/or develop the type of guys who have as much potential but just weren't as developed as quickly as others.
  • The "con" side of the 3 star army approach is looking around at the elite teams and seeing how many of them have adopted the same approach
  • Does Nick Saban use this approach? Did Urban Meyer use this approach? How about Dabo at Clemson? Notre Dame?
  • Who does use this approach? Wisconsin comes immediately to mind as the Billy Beane of this strategy.

Now why, if given the choice, would I want to mimic the strategy that has been rejected by Nick Saban and adopt the one that has been chosen by Wisconsin? That is, if I fancied myself a peer to Bama.

Jimmy is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers? That's the hill the DFBIA is willing to die on?
 
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