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ANALYSIS
Some OSU football fans are afraid of the dark


Tuesday, May 30, 2006Doug Lesmerises
Plain Dealer Reporter
Columbus- It's not the teams, but the times, that worry some Buckeyes football fans when they look at the 2006 football schedule. As expressed by one fan in an e-mail, night games at Texas and Iowa "very well might be the most devastating news of the season."
Why the fear? The Buckeyes have lost their past four regular-season night games, including three on the road.
Why are the Buckeyes set to play their sixth and seventh road night games in the past six years, more than any team in the Big Ten? Ratings.
How is it happening? Because ESPN and ABC want powerhouses in prime time, and Ohio State prefers not to play night games at home - so the best chance to get the Buckeyes is on the road. Ohio State can't do anything about it.
Ohio State relented last season.
OSU played just the seventh night game in the history of Ohio Stadium. The Buckeyes' first home night loss, to Texas, was the second-highest rated of the season on ABC, reaching more than 7 million households. Four weeks later, the Buckeyes' night loss at Penn State was the second-highest rated regular-season college football game in ESPN history, drawing a 4.9 rating and reaching 4.4 million households.
"Those are stratospheric numbers," said Dave Brown, ESPN's vice president of programming and acquisitions. "That's like running a 9.77 100. It's a huge number. Ohio State football is an incredibly strong brand that has a wide following, and they prove it year after year. When you take a look at schools that are among the best in the business at getting ratings, Ohio State is at the top of the list."
As a result, Ohio State will play its 10th televised prime-time game of the past six regular seasons this year, with seven of them road games. Penn State and Wisconsin are next among Big Ten teams with seven prime-time TV games in six seasons, while Michigan's visit to Penn State this year will be its fifth night road game since 2001. The Wolverines, with no lights at the Big House and no interest in adding them, never have played at home at night.
In some ways, prime-time games are a plus, the national exposure giving free publicity to programs. However, Ohio State's night losses at Wisconsin in 2003, Northwestern in 2004, and home against Texas and at Penn State last year, have made Buckeyes fans afraid of the dark.
Even coach Jim Tressel doesn't like it, saying before the Penn State game last year, "Would you vote for necessarily night games away from home? No, as a coach, you probably wouldn't vote for night games, period."

The decision involves much more than the coach. Each year, ESPN and ABC have a list of the games the networks would like to get in prime time as part of the Big Ten's TV contract. It was the renewal of that contract in 1997 that first brought regular prime-time action to the Big Ten. The conference's latest TV deal is up next year, and talks are already under way.
Last year, Big Ten teams were involved in eight prime-time games, the most ever. Four were in-conference matchups. This year, four prime-time games have been announced, two involving the Buckeyes.
"I think ABC or ESPN would like to have more prime-time games than we have now," said Mark Rudner, an associate commissioner of the Big Ten who oversees the television rights. "But we absolutely support our institutions' rights to choose whether they want to be on in prime time. I can tell you there were requests made by ABC and ESPN that were rejected by the conference."
No part of the current contract requires a certain number of prime-time matchups. Rejected by the conference means rejected by the home team, who in the end has final say over setting game times.
"We prefer to play in the afternoon," Ohio State spokesman Steve Snapp said. "It's easier on our coaches and our players and our fans. But we realize an occasional night game can be exciting."
Penn State has the same approach, worried about traveling fans who might have trouble finding a hotel room after a late game. The Nittany Lions made an exception last season, beating the Buckeyes in the ninth night game in Beaver Stadium history. Iowa made the same exception this season, the 7 p.m. local time kickoff on ABC or ESPN on Sept. 30 to be just the fifth night game for Kinnick Stadium and the first in-conference matchup.
The Buckeyes will be under the lights. Their fans will be worried. The ratings should be huge.
 
OSU played just the seventh night game in the history of Ohio Stadium. The Buckeyes' first home night loss, to Texas, was the second-highest rated of the season on ABC, reaching more than 7 million households. Four weeks later, the Buckeyes' night loss at Penn State was the second-highest rated regular-season college football game in ESPN history, drawing a 4.9 rating and reaching 4.4 million households.

"Those are stratospheric numbers," said Dave Brown, ESPN's vice president of programming and acquisitions. "That's like running a 9.77 100. It's a huge number. Ohio State football is an incredibly strong brand that has a wide following, and they prove it year after year. When you take a look at schools that are among the best in the business at getting ratings, Ohio State is at the top of the list."

Uh, NDChief, did you read that carefully? Seeing as how the constant in these two big games last year was Ohio State and seeing as how ESPN (not exactly our lovers) reports that we are the top TV audience program, this would tend to suggest that we have a following outside Ohio, wouldn't it?

Now, let's all say it together: The Ohio State University Buckeyes, America's team!
 
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Uh, NDChief, did you read that carefully? Seeing as how the constant in these two big games last year was Ohio State and seeing as how ESPN (not exactly our lovers) reports that we are the top TV audience program, this would tend to suggest that we have a following outside Ohio, wouldn't it?

Now, let's all say it together: The Ohio State University Buckeyes, America's team!
:bow:

Having the highest amount of living alumni in the nation helps.
 
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No its the fact that whereever you go your neighbor is from ohio and is a buckeye fan, we are like a virus that spreads out amoungst the nation to turn the political parties colors from red and blue to scarlet and grey
 
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Uh, NDChief, did you read that carefully? Seeing as how the constant in these two big games last year was Ohio State and seeing as how ESPN (not exactly our lovers) reports that we are the top TV audience program, this would tend to suggest that we have a following outside Ohio, wouldn't it?

Now, let's all say it together: The Ohio State University Buckeyes, America's team!

Well yea, alot of students graduated and left Ohio and alot of former Ohio residents moved out of state as well. But if you think for a second that OSU has tons of fans without Ohio or OSU connections well you are plain crazy.
Funny I was able to watch every single ND game last year but could not watch what 4 OSU games. And since ESPN is owned by ABC and all ND games are on ABC while OSU's games are on ESPN or maybe even ESPN2 it seems his bosses may know more than he does.

America's team ! UHH YEAH!! You know I mentioned this to a few friends of mine and not one even thought OSU's fan base was even close to ND's.
 
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Well yea, alot of students graduated and left Ohio and alot of former Ohio residents moved out of state as well. But if you think for a second that OSU has tons of fans without Ohio or OSU connections well you are plain crazy.
Funny I was able to watch every single ND game last year but could not watch what 4 OSU games.

America's team ! LMAOROF!! So did a friend of mine when I told him....
That's what spending 4 weeks in rehab will do to you.
 
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Well yea, alot of students graduated and left Ohio and alot of former Ohio residents moved out of state as well. But if you think for a second that OSU has tons of fans without Ohio or OSU connections well you are plain crazy.
Funny I was able to watch every single ND game last year but could not watch what 4 OSU games. And since ESPN is owned by ABC and all ND games are on ABC while OSU's games are on ESPN or maybe even ESPN2 it seems his bosses may know more than he does.

America's team ! UHH YEAH!! You know I mentioned this to a few friends of mine and not one even thought OSU's fan base was even close to ND's.

Aren't ND games on NBC?
 
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this is the thread that spawned a poll over who has more "fans"? ndc, the article states "# of tv viewers" not "# of fans". i can't honestly conceive how you could pin a # to a fan base. the qualifications to be a "fan" will likely radically impact your count. on the other hand, tv viewership is nothing resembling an exact science either. many watch games involving teams they could care less about for a wide variety of reasons. they want to see one team get beat, they think it will be a good match up, the game impacts their team in some way, gambling, its a bowl game, the wife pitched all the porn, etc...

besides, nd has had a run of bad years whereas tOSU has been very successful. that alone has a considerable impact on # of persons watching the games and labeling themselves "fans". if i had a dollar for every time i saw someone in ohio wearing a texas hat or shirt since the nc game...

Funny I was able to watch every single ND game last year but could not watch what 4 OSU games.

this statement really doesn't help your argument as apparently with 4 fewer games to be viewed nationally, tOSU still managed to bring down a higher viewer rating...
 
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Well yea, alot of students graduated and left Ohio and alot of former Ohio residents moved out of state as well. But if you think for a second that OSU has tons of fans without Ohio or OSU connections well you are plain crazy.
Funny I was able to watch every single ND game last year but could not watch what 4 OSU games. And since ESPN is owned by ABC and all ND games are on ABC while OSU's games are on ESPN or maybe even ESPN2 it seems his bosses may know more than he does.

America's team ! UHH YEAH!! You know I mentioned this to a few friends of mine and not one even thought OSU's fan base was even close to ND's.

Oh come on now. I live in Las Vegas ( born and raised 18 years in OHIO) and i saw every game but 2 on ABC last year ( yeah...the other 2 were on ESPN!!!) so it is where you live, in Vegas 50% of the people are buckeyes the other are Huskers
 
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Notre Dame has had nothing to cheer about for a long time. BWHAHAHAHAHHA!

I think they have the largest amount of bandwagon and uninformed fans by far in the U.S. Everyone has a fat great Aunt Olive that watches only one channel (NBC) and cheers for the team that appears on it...

I'm sure the name of the aunt changes from family to family, but the uninformed bandwagon part of it is dead on...IMO.


Off topic^^^^^^^^


I do fear the night though...I have bad memories of regular season night games...
 
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