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http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index....ting_cardale_jones_do.html#incart_river_index
Ouch.
I admire Doug L's stones and frankly agree with most of the article.
Ouch.
I admire Doug L's stones and frankly agree with most of the article.
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
I think the scroll finger on my mouse hand was burning by the time I got 1/2 way through that. Then I got to the end:
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
TIM BECK CONTINUING TO PROVE HIS WORTH ON THE BUCKEYE RECRUITING FRONT
Since arriving at Ohio State in January 2015, quarterbacks coach/co-offensive coordinator Tim Beck has been hit with his share of criticism, even if a good portion of that was unwarranted. What Beck walked into – a talented but uncertain quarterback room and the larger-than-life shadow of Tom Herman – meant unreasonably high expectations as he left the cozy confines of Lincoln, Nebraska for the high-pressure job with the Buckeyes.
Many will cite the play of Cardale Jones a season ago or the abysmal play-calling against Michigan State last November, and some of the critics and their quips are probably justified. Simply put, something was definitely off with the Buckeye offense in 2015. Beck was a convenient scapegoat for a fanbase that expected Ohio State to run through and over their competition on the way to another national title.
The truth about what happened in 2015 may never be fully divulged, but Beck's reputation certainly took a shot. To recover it, the Buckeyes' quarterback coach will need a two-pronged plan of attack, one that will require an increased presence both on the recruiting trail and then this fall on the scoreboard. If the last few months are any indication, he's up to the challenge: Beck's recruiting has been nothing short of spectacular since the end of last season.
Beck spearheaded the recruitment – silently – of then Maryland commitment Dwayne Haskins Jr., working behind the scenes to get Haskins and his family to Ohio State for a December official visit. That visit ultimately led to a commitment from Haskins and helped reel in fellow Maryland prospect Keandre Jones, two key members of the Buckeyes' 2016 class.
As the calendar year changed to 2016, Beck has become an integral part of the Ohio State recruiting machine. Like his predecessor, his reputation in Texas, a state he recruited heavily while at Nebraska, has opened the doors for the Buckeyes all over the Lone Star state. Ohio State has a commitment from La Grange's J.K. Dobbins, a top-50 player nationally.
Thanks to Beck's relationships in Texas, the Scarlet and Gray lead the way for five-stars Jeffrey Okudah and Baron Browning and they've also become a major player for linebacker Anthony Hines III, who visited last weekend. Justin, Texas' Darrell Simpson, a four-star prospect in the 2018 class, as well linebacker Alston Orji and his brother Anfernee, a 2019 prospect, also came to Ohio State last week; Beck is the lead recruiter for all of them. Okudah will visit Columbus again this Friday and it seems the Buckeyes could be closing in on commitments from four of Texas' top-10 prospects in the 2017 class.
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...ing-his-worth-on-the-buckeye-recruiting-front
Since arriving at Ohio State in January 2015, quarterbacks coach/co-offensive coordinator Tim Beck has been hit with his share of criticism, even if a good portion of that was unwarranted. What Beck walked into – a talented but uncertain quarterback room and the larger-than-life shadow of Tom Herman – meant unreasonably high expectations as he left the cozy confines of Lincoln, Nebraska for the high-pressure job with the Buckeyes.
Many will cite the play of Cardale Jones a season ago or the abysmal play-calling against Michigan State last November, and some of the critics and their quips are probably justified. Simply put, something was definitely off with the Buckeye offense in 2015. Beck was a convenient scapegoat for a fanbase that expected Ohio State to run through and over their competition on the way to another national title.
The truth about what happened in 2015 may never be fully divulged, but Beck's reputation certainly took a shot. To recover it, the Buckeyes' quarterback coach will need a two-pronged plan of attack, one that will require an increased presence both on the recruiting trail and then this fall on the scoreboard. If the last few months are any indication, he's up to the challenge: Beck's recruiting has been nothing short of spectacular since the end of last season.
Beck spearheaded the recruitment – silently – of then Maryland commitment Dwayne Haskins Jr., working behind the scenes to get Haskins and his family to Ohio State for a December official visit. That visit ultimately led to a commitment from Haskins and helped reel in fellow Maryland prospect Keandre Jones, two key members of the Buckeyes' 2016 class.
As the calendar year changed to 2016, Beck has become an integral part of the Ohio State recruiting machine. Like his predecessor, his reputation in Texas, a state he recruited heavily while at Nebraska, has opened the doors for the Buckeyes all over the Lone Star state. Ohio State has a commitment from La Grange's J.K. Dobbins, a top-50 player nationally.
Thanks to Beck's relationships in Texas, the Scarlet and Gray lead the way for five-stars Jeffrey Okudah and Baron Browning and they've also become a major player for linebacker Anthony Hines III, who visited last weekend. Justin, Texas' Darrell Simpson, a four-star prospect in the 2018 class, as well linebacker Alston Orji and his brother Anfernee, a 2019 prospect, also came to Ohio State last week; Beck is the lead recruiter for all of them. Okudah will visit Columbus again this Friday and it seems the Buckeyes could be closing in on commitments from four of Texas' top-10 prospects in the 2017 class.
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...ing-his-worth-on-the-buckeye-recruiting-front
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Maybe he just bought one on eBay.......
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OHIO-STATE-...T-EIGHT-CHAMPIONSHIP-SIDELINE-L-/181969231399
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Hopefully made it clearer...
Tough question.. If you had to choose:
A) Winning NC - January 2016 (since we pretty much blamed MSU game on Beck)
B) Landing Haskins, Martell, Jones
which would you pick?
or said another way
A) We wanted Beck's head and assuming we might have been NC if we'd won MSU game
B) We might not have these 3 recruits without Beck
Tough question.. If you had to choose:
A) Winning NC - January 2016 (since we pretty much blamed MSU game on Beck)
B) Landing Haskins, Martell, Jones
which would you pick?
or said another way
A) We wanted Beck's head and assuming we might have been NC if we'd won MSU game
B) We might not have these 3 recruits without Beck
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Fall guys are fun. The actual guy to blame is the second best coach in college football, if not the best.
As for the hypothetical, I'd need to know who the qb is with a, but that seems like an easy choice.
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zincfinger
Gert Frobe-approved
This isn't a comment on Beck one way or the other, but "we" also pretty much blamed the 2014 Virginia Tech game on Herman. "For thus fickle is a mass of men."
edit: You're damn right my philosophical insights come from books I read when I was 12.
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With the game over and escaping Madison with a win, I hope cooler(and sober) heads are now viewing the real issues with this years offense. And sorry, but it has nothing to do with Beck! It was pretty sad reading all of the blame going on Becks head for the poor 1st half and play calling in general when Warriner was also in the booth, and Urban has final say in what plays go in. OSU was playing in a very hostile environment, at night against a team very good team that felt disrespected by outsiders and was brutally underrated by many(including myself). Beck and Warriner played a team that was playing last night, like it was for an NC and trying to avenge a 2014 utter embarrassment on the national stage. If anyone thought that this would be a cake walk and that Chyrst wouldn't have these kids playing out of their minds, then you're sorely mistaken. That was not Becks fault. And actually the strength of OSU's offense has been the play of our QB. If any blame should be handed out, it should be on our WR unit who is doing NO favors whatsoever to help out said QB on a consistent basis. Outside of Brown, no WR has consistently played well. Beck should stop being the fall guy, its getting old, especially when he's also working his butt off in recruiting as well. If you're going to complain about any coach, than start at the top with Meyer, and he'd admit as much. But at the end of the day almost all the units played horrible in the 1st half yet I saw now posts wanting the heads of LJsr, Fickell, Schiano, Coombs, etc, and trust me ALL of their units played like shit at first
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