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They Haven't Got a Glue (Hoffa)

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Hoffa's Body on Horse Farm? Maybe they just rendered him down instead.

Perhaps they'll find him, maybe not - and there will always be those who say he is under Shea Stadium no matter what happens.
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FBI searching farm for Hoffa's body: paper
Thu May 18, 2006 6:37 AM ET



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - FBI agents may be on the trail of new clues to the 30-year-old mystery disappearance of legendary former U.S. union chief Jimmy Hoffa, a Detroit newspaper reported on Thursday.
After an undisclosed informant offered a tip in recent weeks, the bureau began a search for the body of the former Teamsters president on a Michigan horse farm, the Detroit News said on its Web site.
It quoted FBI Special Agent Dawn Clenney as saying the search began on Wednesday with a team of bureau agents and local police in Milford Township near Detroit.
Hoffa disappeared from a restaurant in nearby Bloomfield Township on July 30, 1975, and his body was never found, despite various confessions and tips. An FBI memo later that year suggested his disappearance was probably the work of an organized crime group that wanted to prevent him from regaining control of the powerful union and its pension fund.
His son, James P. Hoffa, is current Teamsters union president.
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sandgk said:
Hoffa's Body on Horse Farm? Maybe they just rendered him down instead.

Perhaps they'll find him, maybe not - and there will always be those who say he is under Shea Stadium no matter what happens.
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I think it's the football stadium in the Meadowlands that was the popular rumor. If you didn't go for the 'went through a meat grinder' theory.
 
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FBI following 'best lead' in Hoffa search

(CNN) -- The FBI is using everything it has to find the remains of Jimmy Hoffa after agents received what they say is "a fairly credible lead" on the former Teamsters boss' 1975 disappearance.

The arsenal includes forensic experts from the bureau's Washington laboratory and a team of scientists that includes anthropologists, archaeologists, engineers and architects who will accompany local police and cadaver dogs for the next two weeks.

The architects and engineers are needed because authorities may need to remove a 30-foot-by-100-foot horse barn during their search, said Daniel D. Roberts, special agent in charge of the FBI's field office in Detroit, Michigan.

Authorities converged Wednesday on an 80-acre horse farm after receiving and confirming a tip that the former union boss may have been buried in Milford Township, about 30 miles west of Detroit.

"There have been a number of leads out in this area that have been covered previously in the last 30 years," said Roberts, who has held his post for the last two years. "This is the best lead I've seen come across in the Hoffa investigation."

As for further details, Roberts said the affidavit was sealed, and "unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to give you the answers that you want."

He added that the FBI would not hold another briefing for reporters until agents found something significant. He estimated that agents would be on the property for about two weeks.

The property owners, who have been cooperative, did not own the property when Hoffa disappeared, Roberts said.

The tip

An informant reported seeing a backhoe and other "suspicious activity" around the farm on the night Hoffa disappeared in 1975, a law enforcement official said Thursday.

That tip triggered Wednesday's search for Hoffa's remains at the farm.
The tipster said the backhoe was operating near a barn that organized crime members used for meetings, a law enforcement official familiar with the search said.

The informant said that the night after Hoffa disappeared, the mobsters never went back to that area of the farm,according to the official.

Police had received the information several years ago, but verified it only recently, said the official, who asked for anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

"This is probably a fairly credible lead," Roberts told reporters Thursday.

The hunt

Aerial footage from the scene on Wednesday showed at least 15 people outside a barn, most of whom were digging a rectangular hole. (Watch the mystery of Hoffa's disappearance -- 2:04)

FBI agents were back at the site Thursday, and investigators were seen pushing metal rods into a field, creating a grid and marking areas where the rods might have struck something underneath the soil.

John and Deb Koskovich have lived on a neighboring property since 1985. When they saw the men digging next door Wednesday, John Koskovich asked them what they were doing. "They just said they were executing a search warrant," Deb Koskovich said.

John Koskovich said there have been reports over the years that Hoffa may be buried in the area, but "we just thought it was just another one of those crazy rumors."

Who did he meet at the Red Fox?

Hoffa was last seen at Machus Red Fox restaurant in Bloomfield Township. He was reportedly there to meet Detroit mob street enforcer Anthony Giacalone and New Jersey Teamsters official Anthony Provenzano. (Who is Jimmy Hoffa?)

Hoffa believed Giacalone had set up the meeting to help settle a feud between Hoffa and Provenzano, but Hoffa was the only one who showed up for the meeting, according to the FBI.

Giacalone and Provenzano later told the FBI that no meeting had been scheduled.

The FBI said Hoffa's disappearance could have been linked to the union boss' efforts to regain power in the Teamsters after he was released from prison.

After serving time for jury tampering and fraud at a federal penitentiary in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania, Hoffa was pardoned by President Richard Nixon on December 23, 1971.

Nixon included in the pardon a condition that Hoffa "not engage in direct or indirect management of any labor organization" until at least March 1980.
Hoffa was 62 at the time of his disappearance.

In September 2001, the FBI found DNA that linked Hoffa to a car that agents suspected was used in his disappearance, but they couldn't prove it.
In May 2004, authorities in Oakland County, Michigan, removed floorboards from a Detroit home and found blood that they thought might be linked to Hoffa's disappearance. Milford Township is in Oakland County.

Authorities went to the Detroit home in 2004 after a biography of former Teamsters official Frank Sheehan stated that Sheehan shot Hoffa in the home, just beyond the front door.

Investigators ruled blood found in the house was not Hoffa's. The FBI has a sample of his DNA.

Sheehan, who was considered a confidant of Hoffa's, died in December 2003. Provenzano died in 1988 after being convicted in another murder case and Giacalone died of kidney failure in 2002 at age 82.

Hoffa's son, James P. Hoffa, is the current president of the Teamsters.

CNN's Kelli Arena, Kevin Bohn and David Mattingly contributed to this report.

Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report.
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yahoo.com

5/19/06

FBI Told in 1976 of Possible Hoffa Site

DETROIT - The informant who is spurring the search for Jimmy Hoffa's remains on property now known as Hidden Dreams Farm is an ailing prison inmate who first told the FBI about the location 30 years ago, the tipster's former lawyer said Friday.

a telephone interview with The Associated Press, lawyer Joseph J. Fabrizio said that in 1976 his client, Donovan Wells, "claimed to have some definite information — whether it was helpful or not, I have no way of knowing."

A government investigator familiar with the FBI's digging operation in Milford Township, about 30 miles northwest of Detroit, said Wells was not nearly as forthcoming in 1976 as he has been recently.

Interest in Wells' tip was heightened after the 75-year-old inmate passed a polygraph exam. Authorities think he believes the story he's telling, said the investigator.

The investigator spoke on condition of anonymity because some of the information he was relating comes from records that have been ordered sealed by a federal judge. Among them is an FBI affidavit detailing the basis for the search warrant used to dig up the ground on the horse farm.

Wells, who once lived on the property, was well-acquainted with the owner, former Teamsters official Rolland McMaster, who also owned the property when Hoffa dropped from sight in 1975, Fabrizio said.

A lawyer for McMaster, Mayer Morganroth, said the farm was searched in the 1970s and nothing was found. He confirmed that FBI agents visited the 93-year-old retired Teamster this week, and Morganroth said most of their conversation related to his farm.

Wells is identified in a 1978 book on the Hoffa disappearance by author Dan Moldea. The book focuses heavily on McMaster and his long-standing relationship with Hoffa, which wound up with a falling out shortly after Hoffa went to prison in 1967 for jury tampering and fraud.

Fabrizio said Wells, who owned a trucking company, was never a Teamsters official to his knowledge, but was intimately acquainted with the union. "He knew everybody with the Teamsters, and I'm pretty sure they knew him," he said.

Fabrizio said the information Wells offered the government during plea negotiations in 1976 involved heavy machinery and suspicious activity on the farm around the time of Hoffa's disappearance on July 30, 1975.

Wells pleaded guilty in August 1976 in federal court in Detroit and was sentenced to one year in federal custody in a case involving "theft from interstate shipment," according to court records.

Fabrizio said it was a very good deal, considering the charges, which involved the theft of truckloads of steel belonging to an automaker.

Wells pleaded guilty in 2003 in federal court to one count of conspiracy to distribute and to possess with intent to distribute marijuana. On Jan. 15, 2004, he was sentenced to 120 months in prison. Wells is housed at the Federal Medical Center in Lexington, Ky., and his projected release date is Dec. 27, 2012.

In a motion in 2003 for a reduced sentence, Wells' attorney said he had a heart attack in 1994, was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 1997, suffered three strokes in 2002 and underwent a quadruple bypass in January 2003.

The motion described him as "significantly overweight" at 5 feet 9 inches, 290 pounds, and said he was taking nine medications. He was born in June 1930, and his last address was in Walled Lake.

At the horse farm, the FBI's search was in its third day. Agents were bringing in cadaver dogs, demolition experts, archaeologists and anthropologists and suggested investigators might remove one of the three barns.

Able Demolition in Shelby Township is on standby as FBI agents "work their way toward the barn," said Wendy Sitek, an officer manager at Able.


Scientists who have conducted similar searches said they have many tools at their disposal, including ground-penetrating radar and electromagnetic surveying devices along with shovels and probing devices. But unless they have a precise location, their task can be arduous.

"It is extremely difficult to find buried bodies," said William Bass, professor emeritus of forensic anthropology at the University of Tennessee and an expert on human decomposition. "I hope they find him, but the experience I've had is people will tell you there's a body out there, but trying to find it is like a needle in a haystack."

Earlier, a law enforcement official in Washington said organized crime members had used a barn on the horse farm for meetings, but the location was never used again after the day Hoffa vanished, the official said.

Morganroth said McMaster was in Indiana on union business at the time of Hoffa's disappearance, and that to his knowledge, his client was never a suspect.
On the day he disappeared, Hoffa was supposed to meet with New Jersey Teamsters boss and Mafia figure Anthony Provenzano and Detroit Mafia captain Anthony Giacalone at the Machus Red Fox Restaurant, about 20 miles from McMaster's farm. Provenzano and Giacalone are dead.
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Hoffa...

Hmmmm, if I could get his photo on a Heat Sensative Camcorder, his voice on my EVP recorder and the answer to his death straight from the horses mouth....maybe I could sell them for 5 Mill like Brangelina's baby pictures and then I can donate the money to some other planet.
 
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New chapter in Jimmy Hoffa search: Police to drill beneath Michigan home

(CNN) -- Police will drill outside a suburban Detroit residence Friday in the search for Jimmy Hoffa, the labor strongman whose disappearance is one of the most notorious and mysterious in U.S. history.

A tipster told police that a body was buried at the spot in Roseville, Michigan, at around the same time the Teamsters boss disappeared in 1975.

The tipster did not claim it was Hoffa's body, authorities said.

Police Chief James Berlin told CNN Thursday that while the tipster's information seems credible, he's not convinced the body is Hoffa's because of the timeline. He spoke with the tipster on August 22, and believes the person did see a burial.

The tipster did not come forward sooner out of fear, said Berlin.

At 10 a.m. Friday, crews will begin digging, the police chief said. It shouldn't take long to get a sample, which will be taken to a forensic anthropologist at the University of Michigan for analysis.
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Got 5 bucks that says if there's anything there its the long lost remains of Bill Martin's brain.
 
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The source came thru Dan Moldea... who is considered the top Mafia investigative reporter for many years now

Originally Dan published who the perps were that did the actual deed but if I remember right (I did read a number of his books) he said Hoffa never made it past a Detroit blast furnace after being shot .. which would make sense... cuz you ain't finding any traces after you've been in a 2000 degree furnace.. so he's on rcd as saying he doesn't believe the tip

PS Moldea wrote a book that said JFK was plotted by Mafia because RFK expelled the New Orleans mafia head out of the country... He also wrote the book about The Hunting of Cain.. a Milo murder in Akron/Bath .. and another book that says the entire NFL is controlled by the Mafia.. since every NFL town just happens to be a Mafia family hdq town... and how they fixed Super Bowls... interesting reads
 
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NJ-Buckeye;2222450; said:
The source came thru Dan Moldea... who is considered the top Mafia investigative reporter for many years now

Originally Dan published who the perps were that did the actual deed but if I remember right (I did read a number of his books) he said Hoffa never made it past a Detroit blast furnace after being shot .. which would make sense... cuz you ain't finding any traces after you've been in a 2000 degree furnace.. so he's on rcd as saying he doesn't believe the tip

PS Moldea wrote a book that said JFK was plotted by Mafia because RFK expelled the New Orleans mafia head out of the country... He also wrote the book about The Hunting of Cain.. a Milo murder in Akron/Bath .. and another book that says the entire NFL is controlled by the Mafia.. since every NFL town just happens to be a Mafia family hdq town... and how they fixed Super Bowls... interesting reads
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I always assumed it was something like that or he was Walleye Food.
 
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Hoffa is really buried under my garden. My Uncle Guido from Youngstown brought me, what he said, was the best fertilizer many years ago. I tilled and re-tilled over the years.

After I grew award winning tomatoes and zucchini, Uncle Guido on his death bed, whispered to me that that was Hoffa.

Great garden-great produce-I don't have the teamsters ship my veggies anywhere.
 
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