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There's a special place in hell... (merged)

Those parents are fucking stupid. They deserve to never see the light of day again. It has nothing to do with the kid being home-schooled either, not sure why that issue was brought up in the article. :tongue2:

Mr.Blonde;1188159; said:
I don't understand the smear against home schooling?

I have seen research that would indicate that home-schooled children do substantially better on standardized tests than public/parochial schooled children.

Just wondering........

Going to add on to what jwins said..

There's a lot more to public schooling than test scores. Personally, I know a few kids who have been home-schooled, and they're awkward (I don't know enough to make an extremely educated statement here, but this is all based on my experiences). This is not an insult to home-schoolers, or people who have been home-schooled. Learning how to communicate is just as important as those test scores, if not more important IMO. When I was in high school I had the opportunity to help younger kids socialize who had trouble with it.. it's tough teaching a kid how to approach a given situation if they've never really been around anyone other than their parents.

That being said, if a kid is home-schooled and has a way of communicating with numerous other kids on a regular basis, the kid should be fine socially. I don't have a problem with home-schooling if it's done this way. I think it kind of prevents the kid(s) from experiencing a lot of great things, but that's just my opinion.
 
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I'm guessing the home schooling being brought up was simply a media "hook", emphasizing what is usually seen as something only "fundies" and Christian extremists do(a popular misconception) thereby making the story somehow more interesting. As though tying a child to a tree over night was not interesting enough. A subtle "Spare the rod, spoil the child" reference gone bad by a poor journalist perhaps.



Regardless of the ill-advised home schooling reference for no apparent reason, there is no excuse valid enough for this action. The child had flesh missing from his buttocks which indicates far too much violence involved in the first place. He was tied too tight to a tree he should never have been tied to in the first place.
 
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No, no, no. You all have it all wrong. Tying him to the tree didn't cause the injuries. His attempts at escape caused the injury. If he'd stood quietly and taken his punishment like a man, he'd still be alive. :tongue2:
 
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MaxBuck;1188575; said:
Uh, no. I missed the part where tying someone to a tree overnight is likely to result in death.
Is there a reason you're defending these folks at all? Whether they expected death or not, that's remarkably inhumane and cruel.
 
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MaxBuck;1188575; said:
Uh, no. I missed the part where tying someone to a tree overnight is likely to result in death.

For more on the subject we turn to:

EKEEN said:
Here we go again, next thing you know the Democrats will want to put a warning label on trees. WARNING: Tying a person to a tree can be hasazdous to their health and may result in serious injury and/or death; expecially in cases involving mobs, torches, pitchforks and lynch ropes.
 
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jwinslow;1188576; said:
Is there a reason you're defending these folks at all? Whether they expected death or not, that's remarkably inhumane and cruel.
I think the comment "remarkably inhumane and cruel" is easy to make if you haven't had to live with the kid. If he was indeed as recalcitrant and hard to control as the parents have indicated, they may have felt like they were at the end of their rope in trying to encourage better behavior. They made a bad choice, for sure. It sounds to me like the punishment of having a dead child is worse than anything the state could legitimately convict them of.

I don't defend the specific action they took; I'd obviously never do something like that to a child of mine. But what they did is not something that warrants a first-degree murder charge; that's way over the top. Involuntary manslaughter, certainly.

My response is aimed primarily at those who are screaming, "off with their heads." People are way too ready to find others guilty of heinous crimes when they haven't been put into the difficult situations themselves.
 
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In my day, we didn't have trees to tie kids to. Instead, we had to use large rocks where there wasn't any shade and we would get third degree sunburn. And our parents didn't care enough to tie us to the rocks, we had to do it ourselves using barbed wire because we didn't have any rope. And that's the way it was, and we liked it. We loved it.

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I am sure that the home schooling was brought up to pre-answer the questions about "why didn't they see this abuse and report it in school?" and the like. I would also venture a guess that these losers didn't home school thier child for educational purposes, more like as above to aid in hiding the abuse. They both should be strapped naked to a fire ant nest.
 
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MaxBuck;1188593; said:
I think the comment "remarkably inhumane and cruel" is easy to make if you haven't had to live with the kid. If he was indeed as recalcitrant and hard to control as the parents have indicated, they may have felt like they were at the end of their rope in trying to encourage better behavior. They made a bad choice, for sure. It sounds to me like the punishment of having a dead child is worse than anything the state could legitimately convict them of.

There is no act a kid could do that would justify tying him to a tree and leaving him overnight. If the kid was an uncontrolable punk-ass, then put his ass in juvy...but you don't tie him to a tree overnight.

The article mentioned they let him free of the tree and then after he misbehaved again they tied him to the tree again...with dipshit parents like that, there's little wonder why the kid didn't listen to them in the first place...
 
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There's a special place in hell...

...for someone like this:

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- A central Pennsylvania man is charged with raping and assaulting an 11-year-old girl more than 150 times over 19 months.

Court papers say the child told police that 41-year-old Joe Aleman repeatedly raped her since she was 10 and that the assaults happened up to three times a week.

Hopefully, he'll learn what that feels like in prison. :mad1:

State College man charged with raping 11-year-old
 
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