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ORD_Buckeye said:
First off, props for having this in the open discussion forum since golf is definitively not a sport. Second, what a shitshow by the fans. Mcllroy's wife got a beer can upside her head. The ugly American was out in force. There's no way that the Brits will act similar. For one thing, they have class, and we don't.
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The Euros were out of control at the last Ryder Cup across the pond, so I wouldn’t be giving them any props.

Unfortunately, the US fans were arguably worse this time around. There’s no place for throwing things at players or their families. There’s going to need to be more security and people need tossed for this type of behavior.

I was at Valhalla a number of cups back and there was great banter back and forth between the players and the fans in general. The Euro fans were hilarious with their outfits and singing.
 
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I've only attended one Ryder Cup but it was a good one. The War on the Shore in 1991 at Kiawah Island's Ocean Course. Was at the final day and watch Bernard Langer miss his six foot putt. So much fun. Good spirited banter but everyone behaved for the most part.
 
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Unfortunately Americans just aren't as clever with their jeering of the Europeans on our soil as opposed to when we go over there. I'm not sure if its the "soccer culture" that bleeds into the Ryder Cup fandom, but their songs, creativity in trash talking, shouts from the crowd that are less crass than literally calling Shane Lowry "a fat fucking Irish Leprechaun"....

Early in the week Rory was having a difficult time with his top button and a fan shouted "Hey Rory, you don't need a button to choke". Rory burst out laughing and the European team thought it was great....bc it was relatively clever and fun. We just raced right past the fun aspect and turned it into ugly insults that aren't even intelligent.

One other point....I think Europe has made the Ryder Cup very personal. The US comes in way too casual. It wasn't until Justin Rose basically told DeChambeau's caddie to "go get his fucking shinebox" that the US decided to fight back. It became much more personal to them after Rose crossed that line, and I think inspired them to step their game up on Sunday singles. They have to find a way to bring that intensity from the opening matches before they're down an insurmountable amount.
 
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Hey, you're right. The game does utilize a ball, but it's stationary, and one can put it on a wooden thingy, as high or low as one likes. And one utilizes 'clubs' of different lengths and elevations to hit the ball to a stationary place, and even has a flag marking the target. No one's trying to knock you to the ground, or stick a paw in your face, affecting your attempt to hit the ball. No running involved, although you get your 10,000 steps in if you walk the course. No one cares if your belly 'muffins' above your pants. Yet only 10% of the players can break 90, which is 18 strokes worse than the arbitrary 'par' for the hole. But it is a beautiful walk in nature, and can claim to be an Olympic 'sport'. So there's that.
 
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Didn't watch the singles Sunday (which are the US's best event), but appears that our guys gave it the 'All-American' try. But the hole had been dug too deep to climb out of. Talking smack in golf has always been part of the experience, but somehow the arbitrary line has been crossed. Sometimes good natured 'jabbing' crosses the line, and becomes vicious. Hate to see it, but 'trying to get into one's head' is a staple in any sport. And when you think that those that follow golf are golfers (cannot imagine a beer-swilling baseball fan attending), the respect for the game has gotta shine through. Anyway, hate to see it, but will bet vcash that next year (on European soil), the Americans will be on the receiving end. PS, have played golf in Europe, and the US courses are different than European, to me the European are more difficult, and greens not as good. Stay tuned, go on a Scotland-Ireland golf cruise next year, so will get the ultimate low-down then. PS, on Spain golf cruise, got paired with a Brit that wasted no time in announcing that he'd played over 800 of the top 1,000 courses in the world.
 
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