BuckeyeMike80;888647; said:
I agree with the conditioning part. I wrestled one year in high school (senior year) and no other sport comes close. It's also very difficult because of all the holds and shots there are to learn.
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I agree with the conditioning part. I wrestled one year in high school (senior year) and no other sport comes close. It's also very difficult because of all the holds and shots there are to learn.
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BuckeyeMike80;888647; said:
GPA award.
I totally agree. I played Baseball, Football and I wrestled. From the article
1) YOU DONT PLAY WRESTLING!!!! (hate that phrase)
2) No way any ball player can go 6 hard minutes with a halfway conditioned wrestler without throwing at minutes 4-5 and 6!
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
What was the basis for comparing? Chance of getting yourself killed? Boxing would be right up there. Big muscle, small muscle training? ... which is where I think baseball and golf can make their highest claim, you need to develop skills with both... hand - eye coordination? Reflexes? Strength and endurance. Ability to be bored for long stretches of time (see cricket, baseball, and soccer goalkeeping)
Screwing around with married women did not get mentioned either. High risk factor there, financial and physical.
Screwing around with married women did not get mentioned either. High risk factor there, financial and physical.
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BuckeyeMike80;888647; said:
Funny you saw this, I have two friends where one wrestled the other played football both in college. These two are(were) best friends and now have refused to speak to each other for going on 5 months because they both feel it is more difficult to become great at the collegiate level in their sport.
As far as conditioning, I give wrestling a big edge over football, but i'd actually say it is fairly similiar to basketball. The difference is if you get ridiculously tired in b-ball you get benched or someone scores a point on you. Where if you get tired in wrestling there is no escape and instead of just giving up a basket you end up looking like a wuss trying your hardest to just survive the clock. But if i'm forced to finish out a basketball game it can be just as tireingfor me, but I guess this isn't a pick-up game so there will always be subs, so yea i'll give wrestling over basketball, unless you are like AIverson a few years ago and basically play every minute of everygame.
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cincibuck;888702; said:
Click the link, it breaks them down into like 6 catagories, doesn't mean the list sucks any less though.
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
BuckWrestler141;888710; said:
OK. I went to the link and I repeat: Screwing around with married women. Requires ability to be in two places at one time, subjects you to comparison shopping, need for advanced excuse making and lying skills, quick escape techniques, fast response time when opportunity arises. All this factored against high risk in financial and physical areas. Life span shortened, good chance to be involed in boxing, martial arts, fencing, sword play trying to outrun bullets and cops all at the same time. Not for the timid.
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RugbyBuck
Our church has no bells.
I think the whole question is so artificial as to approach incoherence. We could all write about something uniquely difficult about our favorite sports. They really ought to be appreciated individually. Now let's all join hands and sing one verse of Kumbaya. 
As for rugby, you knew it was coming, there are three things that set it apart for me. First, I've never played anything else with a greater difference between "live" play and practice. You just can't simulate a rugby match. I lettered three years in football and it's similar, but you can hold an intra-squad football scrimmage that approximates the real thing. Second, you know that you'll be getting "hurt" to some degree when you go out there. The question is "how much?" and you do it anyway. Knowing this gives you an adrenaline rush like I haven't had with other sports. I used to get butterfiles before football and basketball games, but that was primarily fear of fucking something up (I had some experience in that regard). I've been hang-gliding, etc., but for all the potential for injury, statistically you're fine. Finally, the game keeps teaching me. I should know it all by now, but I'm not even close. After all, there are set rules, the size of the field doesn't change, there are always the same number of players, and I've played every position possible for me. There should be a finite number of possible scenarios, but there aren't. I'm a MUCH better player at 37 than I was ten years ago and I don't doubt that if I could play until 57, I would continue to learn. The game only gets better and challenges you to live up to it. I don't begrudge anyone your own sport. Rather, I hope that it gives you as much as mine.
As for rugby, you knew it was coming, there are three things that set it apart for me. First, I've never played anything else with a greater difference between "live" play and practice. You just can't simulate a rugby match. I lettered three years in football and it's similar, but you can hold an intra-squad football scrimmage that approximates the real thing. Second, you know that you'll be getting "hurt" to some degree when you go out there. The question is "how much?" and you do it anyway. Knowing this gives you an adrenaline rush like I haven't had with other sports. I used to get butterfiles before football and basketball games, but that was primarily fear of fucking something up (I had some experience in that regard). I've been hang-gliding, etc., but for all the potential for injury, statistically you're fine. Finally, the game keeps teaching me. I should know it all by now, but I'm not even close. After all, there are set rules, the size of the field doesn't change, there are always the same number of players, and I've played every position possible for me. There should be a finite number of possible scenarios, but there aren't. I'm a MUCH better player at 37 than I was ten years ago and I don't doubt that if I could play until 57, I would continue to learn. The game only gets better and challenges you to live up to it. I don't begrudge anyone your own sport. Rather, I hope that it gives you as much as mine.
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Buckeyedynasty
I'd hit it!
Agreed golf should be higher. The only thing making cheerleading a sport is that it is really tough to keep your concentration and not look up the female cheerleaders skirts.Big Papa;888587; said:Golf at 51, after table tennis? You must be joking. I don't usually hear people complain about their table tennis game. And since when is cheerleading a sport??
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Taosman
Your Cousin In New Mexxico
Bicycling: Distance 20?
Like participating in the Tour de France for 3 weeks is easy? The pros train for it all year and still suffer and break down from the grueling pace and climbs.
I wonder if ESPN understands the sport enough?
Even non-professionally if you participate in a century in the mountains
it is a major effort. That will require weeks to recover from.
And also triathalon. Even the top amatures are using drugs to stay competitive. Very demanding of your time to train for 3 sports.
Like participating in the Tour de France for 3 weeks is easy? The pros train for it all year and still suffer and break down from the grueling pace and climbs.
I wonder if ESPN understands the sport enough?
Even non-professionally if you participate in a century in the mountains
it is a major effort. That will require weeks to recover from.
And also triathalon. Even the top amatures are using drugs to stay competitive. Very demanding of your time to train for 3 sports.
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Oneshot
Goes For Three
I can't believe you guys are getting so worked up over this.
It's like if The World Culinary Committee released a list of "The Best Foods Ever."
Or if a group of studio artists released a list of "The Best Amps Ever."
Food, Amps, and freaking Difficulty of Sports are all subjective. Don't support ESPNs crap by discussing it.
Just chalk this one up to: This is a fucking stupid list. There's no right answer.
It's like if The World Culinary Committee released a list of "The Best Foods Ever."
Or if a group of studio artists released a list of "The Best Amps Ever."
Food, Amps, and freaking Difficulty of Sports are all subjective. Don't support ESPNs crap by discussing it.
Just chalk this one up to: This is a fucking stupid list. There's no right answer.
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Okay, this thread is boring me now that we're now getting a "Vote for my sport" theme going.
If you've only ever played one sport, don't chime in. You have no credibility. I'll comment on the top 25 according to ESPN, for instance:
01 Boxing- Never competitively
02 Ice Hockey- Most difficult sport I've ever tried by far; easily requires the most amount of skill and athleticism combined. Speed, power, grit, balance... too many components to name. I never gave it the credit it deserved.
03 Football- Played at collegiate level, so it wasn't too difficult for me.
04 Basketball- Difficult, but not impossible for a true athlete to step in and impact a team. However, overall probably requires the most amount of athleticism of any sport.
05 Wrestling- Most difficult conditioning, but overall the athletes aren't able to cross-excel (meaning, good wrestlers normally throw a football like a girl).
06 Martial Arts- Did it as a kid but never competed.
07 Tennis- Played recreationally in high school, and although fun, not very difficult if you're an athlete.
08 Gymnastics- Never tried
09 Baseball/Softball- Played through high school and a year in college. Takes some good skill, but I promise it doesn't take an exceptional athlete. CIP- Sean Casey, all of baseball's legacies, John Kruk
10 Soccer- Played for a long time as a kid. Any athlete can become a pretty good player in a short amount of time. Demanding (conditioning), but not tons of skill.
11 Skiing: Alpine- Never competitively
11 Water Polo- Never competitively
13 Rugby- Never competitively
14 Lacrosse- Never competitively
15 Rodeo: Steer Wrestling- Never competitively
16 Track and Field: Pole Vault- Never competitively, only other T&F sports in HS
17 Field Hockey- Never competitively
17 Speed Skating- Once you learn how to skate forward and cross over, it wouldn't be too difficult. "Non contact."
19 Figure Skating- Although difficult to learn, many could do it because it doesn't require nearly as many components as other sports (speed, power, instinctive ability, etc.). "No contact sport," too.
20 Cycling: Distance- Endurance required, very physically demanding. Not sure about skill here; any dummy can hop on a bike and ride.
20 Volleyball- Club H.S. experience. Better conditioned athletes than many are aware. Tough sport, but "no contact."
22 Racquetball/Squash- See tennis
23 Surfing- I guess surfing is a sport, but never tried it competitively
24 Fencing- Never competitively
25 Skiing: Freestyle- Never competitively
Maybe I'll do the rest later. See what I do here? I am obviously biased for football (my personal favorite), but I don't think it takes tons of skill to play. Hell, Al Bundy scored 4 touchdowns in one game (Polk High).
If you've only ever played one sport, don't chime in. You have no credibility. I'll comment on the top 25 according to ESPN, for instance:
01 Boxing- Never competitively
02 Ice Hockey- Most difficult sport I've ever tried by far; easily requires the most amount of skill and athleticism combined. Speed, power, grit, balance... too many components to name. I never gave it the credit it deserved.
03 Football- Played at collegiate level, so it wasn't too difficult for me.
04 Basketball- Difficult, but not impossible for a true athlete to step in and impact a team. However, overall probably requires the most amount of athleticism of any sport.
05 Wrestling- Most difficult conditioning, but overall the athletes aren't able to cross-excel (meaning, good wrestlers normally throw a football like a girl).
06 Martial Arts- Did it as a kid but never competed.
07 Tennis- Played recreationally in high school, and although fun, not very difficult if you're an athlete.
08 Gymnastics- Never tried
09 Baseball/Softball- Played through high school and a year in college. Takes some good skill, but I promise it doesn't take an exceptional athlete. CIP- Sean Casey, all of baseball's legacies, John Kruk
10 Soccer- Played for a long time as a kid. Any athlete can become a pretty good player in a short amount of time. Demanding (conditioning), but not tons of skill.
11 Skiing: Alpine- Never competitively
11 Water Polo- Never competitively
13 Rugby- Never competitively
14 Lacrosse- Never competitively
15 Rodeo: Steer Wrestling- Never competitively
16 Track and Field: Pole Vault- Never competitively, only other T&F sports in HS
17 Field Hockey- Never competitively
17 Speed Skating- Once you learn how to skate forward and cross over, it wouldn't be too difficult. "Non contact."
19 Figure Skating- Although difficult to learn, many could do it because it doesn't require nearly as many components as other sports (speed, power, instinctive ability, etc.). "No contact sport," too.
20 Cycling: Distance- Endurance required, very physically demanding. Not sure about skill here; any dummy can hop on a bike and ride.
20 Volleyball- Club H.S. experience. Better conditioned athletes than many are aware. Tough sport, but "no contact."
22 Racquetball/Squash- See tennis
23 Surfing- I guess surfing is a sport, but never tried it competitively
24 Fencing- Never competitively
25 Skiing: Freestyle- Never competitively
Maybe I'll do the rest later. See what I do here? I am obviously biased for football (my personal favorite), but I don't think it takes tons of skill to play. Hell, Al Bundy scored 4 touchdowns in one game (Polk High).
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Oneshot;888914; said:
Wtf? Who the hell is getting worked up? We're discussing. What did you call me? [sarcasm]You wanna fight! I'M NOT GETTING WORKED UP! I WILL BEAT YOUR BRAINS IN IF YOU THINK I'M WORKED UP![/sarcasm]
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