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The Long Walk Home - The Aseneth Dukat Project

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Jagdaddy said:
My wife served on a jury considering the not guilty by reason of insanity defense of a guy who had kidnapped and molested an eight-year old girl (there was no argument that he hadn't done it). She felt for the guy (his life story/childhood was unbelievably horrible and he had himself been a victim of repeated sexual abuse as a child), but they didn't find him insane. She said it was pretty rough when the girl testified.
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Only verdict that could reasonably have been returned for the sake of society. Those kinds of crimes are rarely if ever one-off things. And the kids who have that happen to them usually live with major issues for the rest of their lives, and often turn into offenders themselves (like the convicted guy in your example).
 
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In the upper right corner of that picture of the flowers, that is the tree we planted 40 years ago in her memory. Barrington is under renovation right now, and access to her tree is not available, being fenced off for said renovations. Theres a plaque and a pinwheel beneath it.

Edit: guess I forgot I already posted a picture of the tree and plaque. The pinwheel I mentioned is new, a classmate of mine set it a few weeks ago
 
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JohnnyCockfight said:
Only verdict that could reasonably have been returned for the sake of society. Those kinds of crimes are rarely if ever one-off things. And the kids who have that happen to them usually live with major issues for the rest of their lives, and often turn into offenders themselves (like the convicted guy in your example).
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That was her view of it. That and while she felt he never had much of a chance to be an unfucked up human being, they thought he knew that he was doing wrong.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Suspect 1 in Seanie's case may well have been schizophrenic (this is me guessing a diagnosis and not official record). Suspect 1 committed suicide in 1984 around the 4 year anniversary of the murder. He, by all accounts, was a troubled soul.

Suspect 2 - had issues as well, mostly anger and drugs. Not psychosis. (Again, just my analysis and not official)
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Your analysis is interesting. From what I've read, a lot of sex offenders recognize that they have a problem, try to control or suppress their urges, and ultimately hit a breaking point and do the act that satisfies their urge. If Suspect 1 in your analysis was indeed the offender, then he might have fit that psychological profile where he realized acting on his urges made him a monster and made the correct decision to take his own life rather than continue the cycle of terror. Seeing that he committed suicide on the 4 year anniversary just seems like too much of a coincidence if evidence was already pointing towards him.

Edit: Any idea if law enforcement has Suspect 1's DNA on file to cross reference with DNA presumably found on your old classmate? That's how most of these kinds of cold cases are getting closed.
 
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JohnnyCockfight said:
Your analysis is interesting. From what I've read, a lot of sex offenders recognize that they have a problem, try to control or suppress their urges, and ultimately hit a breaking point and do the act that satisfies their urge. If Suspect 1 in your analysis was indeed the offender, then he might have fit that psychological profile where he realized acting on his urges made him a monster and made the correct decision to take his own life rather than continue the cycle of terror. Seeing that he committed suicide on the 4 year anniversary just seems like too much of a coincidence if evidence was already pointing towards him.
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Yes. There is also evidence, a pubic hair, that places him at the scene of the crime.

It is my personal opinion that S1 did not possess the faculties to commit this crime, but i do think he was there, even if originally a "look out" for suspect 2. Suspect 2 is directly tied to an earlier attempted rape of a young girl a month prior, and was convicted of attempting to abduct and rape a young girl in September of 1980.

Not official. But, it is my opinion it was both suspect 1 and 2. They grew up 6 houses from one another. They did drugs together at "Frankenstein's cave" which was not 20 yard from where seannie was found
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Yes. There is also evidence, a pubic hair, that places him at the scene of the crime.

It is my personal opinion that S1 did not possess the faculties to commit this crime, but i do think he was there, even if originally a "look out" for suspect 2. Suspect 2 is directly tied to an earlier attempted rape of a young girl a month prior, and was convicted of attempting to abduct and rape a young girl in September of 1980.

Not official. But, it is my opinion it was both suspect 1 and 2. They grew up 6 houses from one another. They did drugs together at "Frankenstein's cave" which was not 20 yard from where seannie was found
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That's crazy. In a bad way.
 
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JohnnyCockfight said:
Your analysis is interesting. From what I've read, a lot of sex offenders recognize that they have a problem, try to control or suppress their urges, and ultimately hit a breaking point and do the act that satisfies their urge. If Suspect 1 in your analysis was indeed the offender, then he might have fit that psychological profile where he realized acting on his urges made him a monster and made the correct decision to take his own life rather than continue the cycle of terror. Seeing that he committed suicide on the 4 year anniversary just seems like too much of a coincidence if evidence was already pointing towards him.

Edit: Any idea if law enforcement has Suspect 1's DNA on file to cross reference with DNA presumably found on your old classmate? That's how most of these kinds of cold cases are getting closed.
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From what I understand, they have tied S1 definitively (this came well after the fact, remember in 1980, dna evidence wasn't anything at all what it is today, if it even really existed at all back them (I mean, they were hypnotizing witness in those days?!)) Thru the hair I mentioned. but they have declined to charge a dead man and dont believe that doing so would be the close of the matter. (Meaning, to me anyway, there is ample evidence tying someone else to the crime (eneter S2))

Suspect 2 was approached as recently as Q4 2018, and refused to answer questions- directing the matter to his unnamed attorney.

As a lawyer, I completely understand that. Theres no statute of limitations on murder. However, as a person, I find myself thinking... if it were me, and I was innocent, I'd tell the cops everything I know, now some 40 years later. Which is to say, his refusal to talk, even now, raises an eyebrow, if nothing else.

Edit- and to add on to that last paragraph... if he has an attorney, then I dont see why - if s2 is innocent- an interview couldn't be conducted in the presence of counsel
 
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