The Game- 2005

[Buckeye513]

LOL. The anamosity. I love it. Henne will be perfectly fine without Braylon Edwards.

K, made the sig pic bearable, thanks to BFS. Thanks again.

Nearly 2/3rd's of Henne's TD passes last year went to Edwards. Do you really think that Henne will be "perfectly fine" throwing to What's-His-Face and that other guy? Think about it. Henne will be exposed in 2005.

 

[strohs]

LOL! That was a good one, but that pic wasn't taken at the UM campus.

Pathetic part is those two ugly hoes are better looking than any girl in ann arbor.

 

[SilkyIsBanned]

I was bored so I decided to break out some numbers for that one dude who dissed Henne.

12 game totals: 60.3% completion percentage; 2,743 passing yards; 25 touchdowns; 12 ints; 2 rushing touchdowns

13 game totals: 59.2% completion percentage; 3,331 passing yards; 24 touchdowns; 10 ints; 0 rushing touchdowns

Guess which one was a true freshman and which one was a 5th year senior!

 

[jimotis4heisman]

Why do OSU fans hate Michigan so much? I'd really like to know? I don't think Michigan really hates OSU as much as OSU hates Michigan.

my life has been ruined so many times by michigan, consult a record book on how many undefeated seasons you guys have ruined of ours, then consult how many opurtunities you guys have had to go undefeated going into the game.

 

[SilkyIsBanned]

Nearly 2/3rd's of Henne's TD passes last year went to Edwards. Do you really think that Henne will be "perfectly fine" throwing to What's-His-Face and that other guy? Think about it. Henne will be exposed in 2005.

Nearly 2/3rd's of Navarre's TD passes his senior season went to Edwards. And yes, I think Henne will be fine with Avant, Breaston, and Massaqoui. He isn't hurting in the WR's department even with the loss of Edwards.

 

[Buckeye513]

I was bored so I decided to break out some numbers for that one dude who dissed Henne.

12 game totals: 60.3% completion percentage; 2,743 passing yards; 25 touchdowns; 12 ints; 2 rushing touchdowns

13 game totals: 59.2% completion percentage; 3,331 passing yards; 24 touchdowns; 10 ints; 0 rushing touchdowns

Guess which one was a true freshman and which one was a 5th year senior!

Henne had Braylon Edwards last year. You're not getting what I'm trying to say.
Chad Henne will not have Braylon Edwards to throw to in 2005. Edwards is the only reason Henne was considered a "good" QB last year. Take Edwards away from Henne and you have a C- to C QB.

 

[SilkyIsBanned]

Henne had Braylon Edwards last year. You're not getting what I'm trying to say.
Chad Henne will not have Braylon Edwards to throw to in 2005. Edwards is the only reason Henne was considered a "good" QB last year. Take Edwards away from Henne and you have a C- to C QB.

LOL. Wow, that is retarded logic at best. Did Braylon bail him out of some throws he shouldn't have made? Yes. Henne however is an immensly talented player in his own right. You can't knock Henne for playing with a great player like Edwards. Thats retarded. Thats like saying take Emmitt Smith's offensive line away and he isn't a good running back. A line helps make the RB. The WR helps make the QB and vice versa.

 

[Buckeye513]

Nearly 2/3rd's of Navarre's TD passes his senior season went to Edwards. And yes, I think Henne will be fine with Avant, Breaston, and Massaqoui. He isn't hurting in the WR's department even with the loss of Edwards.

Le'ts compare.
Braylon Edwards: 97 Catches, 1,330 yards, 15 TD's
Jason Avant: 38 Catches, 447 yards, 3 TD's
Steve Breaston: 34 Catches, 291 yards, 3 TD's

Whoa. Avant and Breaston sure tore it up, huh? Just think about what they're going to do when 2-3 DB's aren't covering Edwards.

 

[TheMile]

Do you really think that Henne will be "perfectly fine" throwing to What's-His-Face and that other guy? Think about it. Henne will be exposed in 2005.

If you can't remember, try asking Texas about What's-His-Face, who was injured most of last season. And that other guy will be the #1 receiver over What's-His-Face anyway.

As for exposure, I'll admit it's fair to say that Henne hasn't proved he's an elite QB yet, but he had an exemplary performance for a true freshman nonetheless. What did Henne do so badly that makes you think he'll be "exposed?" At worst, he looks like another solid, mistake-free quarterback for us in the mold of Navarre and Brady (and Krenzel, too, I suppose).

I was bored so I decided to break out some numbers for that one dude who dissed Henne.

Looks like someone else reads mgoblog. Welcome.

 

[SilkyIsBanned]

Le'ts compare.
Braylon Edwards: 97 Catches, 1,330 yards, 15 TD's
Jason Avant: 38 Catches, 447 yards, 3 TD's
Steve Breaston: 34 Catches, 291 yards, 3 TD's

Whoa. Avant and Breaston sure tore it up, huh? Just think about what they're going to do when 2-3 DB's aren't covering Edwards.

3 DB's rarely ever guarded Edwards. Breaston was dinged up most of the season and Avant missed the Rose. Either way, they still scored more reciving touchdowns this year in LESS games (11 games for Avant in '04 vs. 13 games in '03) with Henne at the helm than they did last year with Navarre at the helm.

 

[TheMile]

Le'ts compare.
Braylon Edwards: 97 Catches, 1,330 yards, 15 TD's
Jason Avant: 38 Catches, 447 yards, 3 TD's
Steve Breaston: 34 Catches, 291 yards, 3 TD's

Whoa. Avant and Breaston sure tore it up, huh? Just think about what they're going to do when 2-3 DB's aren't covering Edwards.

Breaston was injured most of last season. Most of the time he played was with an injured hand. Avant can't be defended as easily, but, when actually thrown to, doesn't drop much at all.

Edit: I should also point out that your numbers don't imply that Henne is bad, just that he hasn't proved himself to be the superstar many Michigan fans make him out to be.

 

[Buckeye513]

LOL. Wow, that is retarded logic at best. Did Braylon bail him out of some throws he shouldn't have made? Yes. Henne however is an immensly talented player in his own right. You can't knock Henne for playing with a great player like Edwards. Thats retarded. Thats like saying take Emmitt Smith's offensive line away and he isn't a good running back. A line helps make the RB. The WR helps make the QB and vice versa.

Take any RB's line away and they won't be very good. And look at the Denver Broncos. Their offensive line and scheme have helped many mediocore RB's seem great.
Edwards was your passing game last year. Just look at the stats.

 

[jwinslow]

I'm gonna have to agree with Silky on this one. I think Henne has to prove himself next year that it wasn't Edwards that made the difference between an average and good first year for him. However if there ever was a team that could make a QB look good thanks to its WR corps, its UM. Not that their starters next year are the greatest ever, but that team overrecruits the position and brings in studs every year.

Breaston was hurt much of last year, and will have a much better year this year. He's a slightly more human version of Ginn (aka not quite as athletic, but still a slasher in his own respect).

The point is this: Henne had a TD machine on his team in #1. Who here wouldn't throw it to him? Smith has two capable receivers in Holmes and Gonzalez. So why does he look for Ginn on every play? (who is actually much less dominant in some situations in the fact that he can't catch the jump ball as well) Because he knows that just throwing him the ball will usually result in big things. The comparison is a three legged dog (it limps), but it helps to illustrate why Ted Ginn's ability doesn't necessarily negate a tOSU QB's performance.

 

[Buckeye513]

If you can't remember, try asking Texas about What's-His-Face, who was injured most of last season. And that other guy will be the #1 receiver over What's-His-Face anyway.

As for exposure, I'll admit it's fair to say that Henne hasn't proved he's an elite QB yet, but he had an exemplary performance for a true freshman nonetheless. What did Henne do so badly that makes you think he'll be "exposed?" At worst, he looks like another solid, mistake-free quarterback for us in the mold of Navarre and Brady (and Krenzel, too, I suppose).

I realize that he had a good season last year. But without Braylon Edwards, I doubt anyone other than the Big Ten followers would know who Chad Henne is. He hasn't really shown me that he can do much other than throw the fade to Edwards. And until he does, he's overrated in my book.

However if there ever was a team that could make a QB look good thanks to its WR corps, its UM. Not that their starters next year are the greatest ever, but that team overrecruits the position and brings in studs every year.

That's what I've been trying to say. That Edwards made Henne look good all of last year. Let's just see how great he'll be without Edwards to throw to.

 

[TheMile]

I don't think we're actually that far apart in our opinion of Henne. Michigan fans tend to assume he's a superstar already, when so far he's just proven that he's a solid quarterback with tons of potential.

He hasn't really shown me that he can do much other than throw the fade to Edwards.

I'd say he's proven he can play solidly in front of millions of people, with decent accuracy and few mistakes while only being four months removed from his senior prom. No small accomplishment, in my opinion. Despite their success, that's all the last two Michigan quarterbacks did, frankly, and Henne has 3 more years to improve on that.