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Interesting that in South Carolina a sedan was pulled over and "suspicious bomb-like" materials were found in it. And supposedly there were two out of state middle eastern men driving it. Very preliminary and it may be nothing... or may be something. I have been doing a bit of highway driving lately and it seems on certain highways there is a huge police presense. For instance the weekend after July 4th I drove from Columbus to Washington D.C.. In all honesty I saw atleast 15-20 Police cars posted up. Now that was unusual... but, the fact that I passed THREE seperate cars getting searched, one that included a "task force" shirted crew around the vehicle....was room for concern. These ranged from Ohio to Pennsylvania to Maryland. All parties either cuffed on the side of their cars and some in the back of patrol cars. And you know how the police roll... 4 plus patrol cars/trucks at all the stops. Weeks later I drove from Miami, FL to Ohio up 75... I maybe saw 2 police cars. I feel that there is knowledge of certain highways may be used to transport materials.

When I was in D.C. I had dinner with a very in the know person. Very much so that I just deleted any hint of him cause you never know what the feds keep tabs of on the internet. He wouldn't talk about specifics of any classified things he was involved or informed on. But he did reflect on the very real threat that exists. He shunned off the press alluding to the fact that the terror talk was a way to distract from Iraq. Although Al-Qaida is "infatuated" with planes, a much simpler attack is a possibility. Something as simple as sending several suicide bombers into heartland american restaurants could do the job. It's not a matter of killing 5,000 people like 911. It's making a statement and disrubting the economy... scare tactics. By killing 50 people in middle america could do as much to the economy as killing 5k in 9-11. Chemical and nuclear are real threats as well. Now this individual is not about Republican or Democrat. He said that there were WMD's in Iraq 100%. They were moved into Syria before the first american forces were anywhere near Iraq. Anyway he is the real deal.

So my point is...adhere to warnings. Don't forget that a very real threat exists. Our government is working non-stop to stop any possible attacks, but, it only takes one to slip through.
 
I was discussing this sort of thing with someone yesterday. I'll ask the same question to you that I asked my friend - Do you think we are any safer now than we were on the day before 9/11?
At times, I definately do. Other times, I'm not so sure.
 
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LadyBuckeye;896048; said:
I was discussing this sort of thing with someone yesterday. I'll ask the same question to you that I asked my friend - Do you think we are any safer now than we were on the day before 9/11?
At times, I definately do. Other times, I'm not so sure.

A valid question. Now on one hand Al-Qaida is as strong as they were since 9-11. Also, they have had another almost 6 years to plant sleepers and scope out other ideas. I think the US governmant is doing a great job to stop every possible terror link. I think are more prepared and alert than pre-911, but don't still have everything on lock. I'd say yes, only because we remain vigilant and aware, but it only takes one to slip through... and unfourtanetly it probably will at some point.

well, july 4th police presences are no surprise

This was actually the complete following weekend... so like Thursday the 12th.
 
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I totally agree that the government is doing a very good job stopping Terrorist activity coming into our country. I guess what bothers me the most when I hear about a foiled terror plot announced by CNN, is what about all the foiled terror plots and such that we don't hear about. I'm sure we are not told about every single one. It would probably not be safe to make some pieces of information public, anyway.
 
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LadyBuckeye;896048; said:
I was discussing this sort of thing with someone yesterday. I'll ask the same question to you that I asked my friend - Do you think we are any safer now than we were on the day before 9/11?
At times, I definately do. Other times, I'm not so sure.

safer?....yea, but nothing will stop the power of the mind from doing something else. if you want to go over to your neighbor's house and stab them, all you have to do is knock on the door and their dead...sure there is a police presence, but it is not their job to expect somebody going out on a wim and doing something of that nature. We can put in regulations and security everywhere, but any half intelligent person can slap together an explosive and/or biochemical agents.
 
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gregorylee;896182; said:
The power of detterent, only works if you are deterred. Meaning if you aren't scared of the consiquences, they don't mean shit.


Exactly, and in the case of the Terrorists that want to take us out, they will and already have died for their cause. They without a doubt have no fear of the consequenses. They see themselves as more of a hero if they die and become martyrs for their cause. They are psychos of the worst kind!! (IMO)
 
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gregorylee;896182; said:
The power of detterent, only works if you are deterred. Meaning if you aren't scared of the consiquences, they don't mean shit. Chances are, if you want to go and stab your neighbor, you already don't like him, and he is probably aware of that. The regular joe on the street isn't safe at all, that would be unless he takes advantage of his concieled carry priviledge...

very true, which is my point, if you want to do something in some form of terrorism, it is simply a matter of how far you are willing to go and in some instances sacrifice. frankly, they don't need to be arrested or killed in the process, but they realize that it strikes the american public harder by letting them know that they don't have any fear besides that of failing their mission.
 
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gregorylee;896182; said:
Chances are, if you want to go and stab your neighbor, you already don't like him, and he is probably aware of that.
which is the exact thing going on right now isn't it?

LadyBuckeye;896055; said:
I totally agree that the government is doing a very good job stopping Terrorist activity coming into our country. I guess what bothers me the most when I hear about a foiled terror plot announced by CNN, is what about all the foiled terror plots and such that we don't hear about. I'm sure we are not told about every single one. It would probably not be safe to make some pieces of information public, anyway.
I dont know how good of a job they are doing, the best they can i suppose. Read an article the other day that was explaining how russia ships weapons to iran, who then sends them to Chavez and company, who then will have papers to Mexico ready and will send terriosts from Iran, with russian weapons, to mexico legally, and they then enter the united states.

all the foiled plots should really be alarming people, between here and britian, its not a good situation.

On it not being safe to give certain information, tell that to half the journalists out there..
 
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Bleed S & G;896249; said:
all the foiled plots should really be alarming people, between here and britian, its not a good situation.

On it not being safe to give certain information, tell that to half the journalists out there..


If it wasn't for nosy journalists going above and beyond the call of duty and risking life and limb to get a story out, we would be in the dark on tons of issues.
Our govt sometimes sees us as idiots that can't handle knowing what's going on behind the scenes. Granted, there are some people that could insight riots or panic because they can't handle it. But, I think the majority of the nation is mature enough to know the details of why the country is on an excellerated terrorist level when we are put on one.
 
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Bleed S & G;896249; said:
which is the exact thing going on right now isn't it?


I dont know how good of a job they are doing, the best they can i suppose. Read an article the other day that was explaining how russia ships weapons to iran, who then sends them to Chavez and company, who then will have papers to Mexico ready and will send terriosts from Iran, with russian weapons, to mexico legally, and they then enter the united states.

all the foiled plots should really be alarming people, between here and britian, its not a good situation.

On it not being safe to give certain information, tell that to half the journalists out there..

They are doing a very good job... but it's one heck of a marathon, can't really stop for water. The border situation is very concerning from Mexico. The "individual" I had dinner with took a helicopter tour with Homeland Security... droves and droves of illeagles running across the border. He was told when they landed that he was lucky that night... when asked why... they said normally they get shot at.
 
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LadyBuckeye;896254; said:
If it wasn't for nosy journalists going above and beyond the call of duty and risking life and limb to get a story out, we would be in the dark on tons of issues.
Our govt sometimes sees us as idiots that can't handle knowing what's going on behind the scenes. Granted, there are some people that could insight riots or panic because they can't handle it. But, I think the majority of the nation is mature enough to know the details of why the country is on an excellerated terrorist level when we are put on one.
The journalists don't go above and beyond, they do it for fame and glory and money
 
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starBUCKS;896256; said:
The border situation is very concerning from Mexico. The "individual" I had dinner with took a helicopter tour with Homeland Security... droves and droves of illeagles running across the border. He was told when they landed that he was lucky that night... when asked why... they said normally they get shot at.


That's crazy!! I know the figure we're given on CNN, but did the "individual" have dinner with happen to give you a figure of roughly how man illeagles successfully make it into the U. S. on a daily basis?

I was just curious. It's sounds like he has some pretty accurate info.
 
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Best Buckeye;896257; said:
The journalists don't go above and beyond, they do it for fame and glory and money


Yeah, that too. :lol:

I was trying to, for just a moment that there might be someone who has an influence on our general population that might really give a crap about us. But, that's OK - I'm done daydreaming. :slappy:
 
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