TE Marcus Baugh (Birmingham Stallions)

[SEREbuckeye]

And I have been doing it for 30 years, Active Duty Army. While alcoholism does exist in the military, it's no where near as bad as it was in the 60's through the 80's and really no different than the civilian sector. The military, in general, has gotten away from having alcohol at their functions. Right Arm Night and Bosses Night are events of the past.

Marcus has access to what every COLLEGE student (and young person) has access to: The bars, parties, etc. are readily available seven days a week on and off campus. Does that make him an alcoholic? Maybe not. Does he have a problem? YES! Especially if he will not stay away from the sauce and his college football career could be on the line. At 19 and 20 years old, I do not remember turning down a tasty beverage and on occasion I would binge drink so I do get it. So at the end of the day Marcus needs some help in decision making and making the right choices.

Actually no, the military has NOT gone away from providing alcohol at parties. The Air Force customarily sanctions the serving of alcohol at the release party of the next rank. For instance, when I pinned on Staff Sergeant, the base club provided alcohol for any attendee that afternoon. Alcohol is also served at Chistmas parties, leadership graduation courses, Dinning Outs, and Dinning Ins. There are countless military sanctioned events where boozed is served.

As for Marcus, I don't think him drinking and getting in trouble for it makes him an alcoholic. To me it makes him a college celebrity that likely gives in to peer pressure. He likes to party like anyone on the college scene but lacks the mental maturity right now to understand the consequences of his actions. Its normal behavior of someone who has likely never been punished more than a slap on the wrist.

 

[RB07OSU]

Ok can we break all this nonsense and speculation off? Marcus is going to have to do an evaluation on his habits regarding alcohol as part of his eventual plea bargain, so let's leave that analysis to the experts. I think we know that 3 strikes is pretty serious even if it's on something perceived as petty, especially considering he isn't even through his first year in Columbus. Let's leave it at that.

 

[ArmyVet83]

The military's own numbers of alcohol abuse, DUI stats and the rampancy of underage drinking good enough?

I've gotten hammered with more underage marines than I can count. So.... Yeah.

There is a difference between alcohol abuse and alcoholism. I know. I have a Master's degree in it, train in it, and I know how to be responsible when I partake myself. Compare the numbers between military and civilian alcohol abuse that are reported and authorities act on it and we'll talk. Between the MPs, SPs, base police, cadre and NCOs these service members are being monitored on base. Bowling alleys, clubs, sports bars, barracks, etc. I have witnessed it first hand. Plus it's not about getting hammered or having a few drinks. It's alcoholism.

 

[ArmyVet83]

Actually no, the military has NOT gone away from providing alcohol at parties. The Air Force customarily serves alcohol at the release part of the next rank. For instance, when I pinned on Staff Sergeant, the base club provided alcohol for any attendee that afternoon. Alcohol is also served at Chistmas parties, leadership graduation courses, Dinning Outs, and Dinning Ins. There are countless military sanctioned events where boozed is served.

As for Marcus, I don't think him drinking and getting in trouble for it makes him an alcoholic alone. To me it makes him a college celebrity that likely gives in to peer pressure. He likes to party like anyone on the college scene but lakes the mental maturity right now to understand the consequences of his actions. Its normal behavior of someone who has likely never been punished more than a slap on the wrist.

Sere,

Maybe I should have been more clear in my comments. I am not saying the military DOESN'T include alcohol in their functions. I am saying they do not do it as much as they use to. Alcohol at promotion parties is optional but for the most part alcohol is predominant at those parties. Dining-Ins and Dining-Outs now have non-alcoholic grog bowls in addition to the traditional. The earlier ones (80s and 90s) I have been to had one grog, the later ones had both. Trust me when I tell you I would be one of the first to the bar when I went to these functions. But from MY experiences it has changed since the my earlier days serving.

 

[Buckeneye]

There is a difference between alcohol abuse and alcoholism. I know. I have a Master's degree in it, train in it, and I know how to be responsible when I partake myself. Compare the numbers between military and civilian alcohol abuse that are reported and authorities act on it and we'll talk. Between the MPs, SPs, base police, cadre and NCOs these service members are being monitored on base. Bowling alleys, clubs, sports bars, barracks, etc. I have witnessed it first hand. Plus it's not about getting hammered or having a few drinks. It's alcoholism.

Honestly for the sake of not polluting this thread, we should take the discussion elsewhere.

 

[TDunk]

Honestly for the sake of not polluting this thread, we should take the discussion elsewhere.

Like say, The Drunken Clam?

 

[kujirakira]

In my experience, there was a lot more alcohol consumption in the military than out -- but I wouldn't characterize the overwhelming majority of it as "alcoholism". It didn't interfere with our lives.
In the time I was in, I knew 2 individuals who were alcoholics -- both got help after a few incidents, but neither lost rank or had other significant punishment (on the condition that they enter treatment). Surprisingly, neither of them actually drank that much either -- it's just what it did to them was more dramatic.
But yea, plenty of us would get absolutely wasted on the weekend just to escape all the stupid asinine bs we had to put up with during the week. Doesn't get easier when you pick up NCO and get caught in the middle trying to coerce people beneath you to do stupid crap b/c the guy above you is a complete moron with rank. I probably went 2 years completely wasted on the weekends and still getting 4.8/4.8 on proficiency and conduct marks.

 

[maximumblitz]

Wow, UFM mentioned Baugh in his presser, #3 TE, ahead of J T Moore. He also mentioned depth at TE. I thought he would be gone.

 

[maximumblitz]

Later in the scrimmage, with twos versus twos, quarterback J.T. Barrett rolled right to escape pressure and found tight end Marcus Baugh running towards the sideline and hit him about 30 yards downfield. Baugh ran the final 10 yards or so into the endzone.

One series later Barrett found Baugh again, this time on a deep corner to the left side. Baugh again ran the final 10 yards for around a 55-yard touchdown strike.

Baugh had a few other catches as well, and was easily over 100 yards in receptions on the day.

http://www.theozone.net/football/2014/SpringBall/practicereport040514.html

 

[HorticullyBuck]

Kids got talent if he can stay out of trouble

 

[MD Buckeye]

11W: AFTER YEAR OF TURMOIL, MARCUS BAUGH FOCUSES FORWARD

Good read & I'm glad to see the light has come on for Marcus. Keep working!

 

[Taosman]

I saw a blurb somewhere(11warriors?) that a Summer workout observer said Baugh sticks out as a guy with tremendous talent. The kind of TE talent we haven't been getting. Great news! Maybe the kid has turned the corner on his troubles.

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

I'm assuming that even though it hasn't been brought up at all, he will be suspended for a good portion of next year? He got in trouble again sometime between the end of the season and spring training, right? Maybe I'm just mixing it up.

Edit: Yes, in January. I can't remember if a punishment has been announced, but Urban's track record since being at OSU would indicate a suspension of some kind.

 

[Taosman]

I'm assuming that even though it hasn't been brought up at all, he will be suspended for a good portion of next year? He got in trouble again sometime between the end of the season and spring training, right? Maybe I'm just mixing it up.

Edit: Yes, in January. I can't remember if a punishment has been announced, but Urban's track record since being at OSU would indicate a suspension of some kind.

Yes. But he probably wouldn't have played much anyway. He has a lot to learn still. And Urban is making sure that the kid is on the right life track first and foremost.

 

[MD Buckeye]

I'm assuming that even though it hasn't been brought up at all, he will be suspended for a good portion of next year? He got in trouble again sometime between the end of the season and spring training, right? Maybe I'm just mixing it up.

Edit: Yes, in January. I can't remember if a punishment has been announced, but Urban's track record since being at OSU would indicate a suspension of some kind.

I wouldn't assume that.