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BuckWrestler141

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I recently picked up a account to the SGN news. So I was excited to give back to the planet with the news I recieved. I know that copy/pasteing the articles are obvious no-no's. However, I was wanting to give the most information still as possible, so reworded a large amount of the article.

JWinslow, a poster that I enjoy on the planet, told me that this is wrong. Since I respect the poster I quickly changed my post for time being, but not sure I agree with him entirely on the issue.

So I was just wanting a couple more opinoins from the admins here, not trying to 'stir up the pot' but just want everyone here to have as much info as possible considering I too have been in the poor mans position (hell still am :) ) before. Whatever you guys feel to be the case, i'll gladly agree with, but just figured it deserved a few more opinoins, no disrespect to JWinslow.
 
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eager to hear their response... if I'm wrong I apologize in advance. Just seemed like very little was still left to read... it wasn't wrong to reword I think you just gave away too much.

Maybe the question I'd like to be answered publically is... how much can you summarize from a premium article?
 
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eager to hear their response... if I'm wrong I apologize in advance. Just seemed like very little was still left to read... it wasn't wrong to reword I think you just gave away too much.

Maybe the question I'd like to be answered publically is... how much can you summarize from a premium article?
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No need to apologize regardless of their answer; as i'm also unsure of that answer. I can see both sides on the matter

As for allowing it: I'm still paying SGN news, and making 0 profit by shareing what I learn on this board. Also it isn't word for word, but it does as you said leave little news left from the article.....
however, when i become lazy and such you might see me recap something a day late and almost always I assure you with more typos :( ha.

So I kind of see it as i'm not doing anything wrong because, I just picture this board as a board of friends and i'd be happy to tell all of my buckeye friends everything I knew...I just don't get many chances to do that given my location. Also when SGN uses video and pictures those are things that will be more exclusive.

Plus, as you can gather from my inability to properly organize my thoughts... they are better writers...you'd enjoy reading what they say more, you don't have to worry about waiting for my slow recaps and there will be plenty of extra to the site that simply can't be paraphraised.
 
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Hey I've struggled with summarizing of recruit articles in the past too... I end up leaving too much info in those (and have been kindly corrected by grad and others)...
 
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jwinslow said:
Hey I've struggled with summarizing of recruit articles in the past too... I end up leaving too much info in those (and have been kindly corrected by grad and others)...
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Well thats all I need to hear then. If Grad has corrected the same from your post then i'm pretty sure thats the policy. Worked this out without an Admin even dropping by the thread lol.

If any of you want to delete this to aviod further debate then that'd be great.
 
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What VG said is correct...

However, after some run-ins with other sites, we have taken the policy of severely cutting down on our summaries. We no longer include any direct quotes and try to keep the summaries to the most pertinent information only.

Your effort is appreciated though 141...with each summary you post, you will become more comfortable.

If you have any questions please PM me...the same thing should go for any concerns about 141's summaries, please PM him instead of making it board information.
 
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I think most of the time when we summarize something from one of the more established sites we only give away information that can most often times be found in a recruit's profile anyways.
 
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What you are saying is not correct. If you are using copyrighted information as a source and you choose to summarize it, first, you must credit the source. Secondly, in all likelyhood, your are in breach of the subscription agreement you have between yourself and the premium site.
 
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What you are saying is not correct. If you are using copyrighted information as a source and you choose to summarize it, first, you must credit the source. Secondly, in all likelyhood, your are in breach of the subscription agreement you have between yourself and the premium site.
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The site is always credited. The summaries are as bland as possible...well within our legal rights. Breach of contract? How so? There is ZERO copying. It is equivalent to watercooler conversation. If anything, the summaries promote the sites.

Then again, that is $49.95 out of someone's pocket, so I see why you suddenly take issue with this.
 
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Then again, that is $49.95 out of someone's pocket, so I see why you suddenly take issue with this
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First, $49.95 is not out of my pocket and I don't think I have ever summarized premium info from one site to another, unless I posted it myself.

Secondly, I don't know about each individual site, but I believe BN has an agreement that states you won't take information out of their premium area and post it on other sites. So, if I took something out of their Prem area, which was exclusive information to their premium area, and summarized it anywhere, I believe I would be in breach of the agreement I have as a subscriber.
 
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Helpinghand said:
What you are saying is not correct. If you are using copyrighted information as a source and you choose to summarize it, first, you must credit the source. Secondly, in all likelyhood, your are in breach of the subscription agreement you have between yourself and the premium site.
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I presume that you are writing as a pincipal of Scarlet and Gray News. If your publication has any specific questions or comments about BP's policies, then please feel free to contact one of us (Clarity, 3yardsandacloud, osugrad21, Hubbard, or myself) by PM, and we shall certainly address your concerns.

With respect to any other site, I will not presume to construe their own subscriptions agreements, or what would amount to a violation thereof, or what their remedies might be in the case of such a violation.
 
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Helpinghand said:
What you are saying is not correct. If you are using copyrighted information as a source and you choose to summarize it, first, you must credit the source. Secondly, in all likelyhood, your are in breach of the subscription agreement you have between yourself and the premium site.
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So, if I'm a BN$ subscriber and read a premium article which says that Recruit A is now interested in Ohio State, I can't tell that to a friend at work who also is a Buckeye fan but isn't a BN$ subscriber?

The overall intent of the subscriber agreement is to keep people from posting info that is unique to BN$ (such as personal interviews conducted by BN$ staff members) on other sites. Hell, AP news articles have always been copyrighted and people talk about them all the time, and they aren't forced to start the conversation with "AP said that...".
 
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First, $49.95 is not out of my pocket and I don't think I have ever summarized premium info from one site to another, unless I posted it myself.
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So you have ZERO financial interest in that site?

Somebody is lying in this one...maybe not you, but lies are being told. How surprising.

Also, how does legally summarizing premium content compare to say ummm stealing a website's entire layout along with some unique features?

Just curious since we are discussing morality...

This drama is old news and the hypocrisy is making me sick.
 
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