Sorry Chad...

[AJHawkfan]

Does anyone know exactly how the rule is written?

The article states that anyone who goes to the groundor uses the ball as a prop is subject to a penalty. Will it be a penalty if a guy dives across the goal line and is already on the ground when he begins his celebration? Will it be a penalty if a guy takes a knee in prayer after scoring?

Another article I read said that players will have to do their celebrating with 2feet on the ground. Does that mean the Lambeau Leap is now a penalty?

In my personal opinion, who cares? As long as the celebrations are tasteful and not directly taunting the other team, who cares? Some of the dances and celebrations are actually quite funny. I don't understand why the NFL constantly feels the need to reinforce their reputation as the No Fun League.

 

[ScarletBlood31]

They're selfish for celebrating their successes?

Chad Johnson said today on ESPN that he and his "committee" (T.O. and Steve Smith) are going to get together and come up with celebrations that are both creative and abide by the rules. Besides, Mike Vanderjagt, John Kasey, and Shayne Graham were a combined 20 of 20 on FGs under 30 yards and 142 for 143 on extra points last year. I doubt it's going to make a difference if they do get flagged.

I have a feeling that you, being a Dallas fan, don't want to have to think about getting those penalties once TO starts showing off when he scores TDs.

 

[jwinslow]

if the opposing defense doesn't get pissed at the celebration, neither should the NFL. Throw a flag when it is clearly taunting or something off-color.

Also glad to see the NFL is implementing it's plan to cut down on contact yet again (ie it's now illegal to hit below a QB the knee with driving force).

 

[AJHawkfan]

(ie it's now illegal to hit below a QB the knee with driving force).

Is it also illegal for the QB to break a non-driving-force-below-the-knee-tackle attempt and run? I mean, if a defensive player is not allowed to make a full effort to tackle the guy, or he has to let up before hitting him, the guy being tackled shouldn't be allowed to take off and run.

 

[gost8]

if the opposing defense doesn't get pissed at the celebration, neither should the NFL. Throw a flag when it is clearly taunting or something off-color.

Also glad to see the NFL is implementing it's plan to cut down on contact yet again (ie it's now illegal to hit below a QB the knee with driving force).

The only problem with that is you open the can of worms of what is off color and what isn't. I agree with what they have done. They have made it cut and dry what you can do and what you can't. I don't mind spiking the ball or dunking it over the cross bar but it makes me wanna puke when these guys act like they have never been in the endzone before. Spike the ball and get off the field. When you spend time before the game deciding what you will do if you will score I hate it. That is what I would like to see removed from football. Screw the penalty, hit em in the pocket.

We need some more Barry Sanders in the league.

Right now these guys are all attention whores (wheres that picture Thump?) LOOK AT ME... LOOK AT ME !!!!

 

[gost8]

Is it also illegal for the QB to break a non-driving-force-below-the-knee-tackle attempt and run? I mean, if a defensive player is not allowed to make a full effort to tackle the guy, or he has to let up before hitting him, the guy being tackled shouldn't be allowed to take off and run.

Agreed....I think some of these rules are going to cross to other sports as well. For instance there is talk of MLB making a rule that a runner on first base must alert the second baseman that he is going to attempt a steal so there is no chance of him being accidently cleated in the shin... Also in NASCAR they are going to require all cars have turn signals and break lights to keep the fender benders down. Point being these guys know the risks and they are being paid WELL for taking them. These rules protecting the quarterback are getting ridiculous. Whats next? Flags?

 

[jwinslow]

who wants to legally tackle VY with these rules?

 

[AJHawkfan]

The only problem with that is you open the can of worms of what is off color and what isn't.

The NFL already had an excessive celebration penalty in place, did they not? From my understanding, it was just too vague as to what was allowed and what wasn't.

If they wanted to reign in these guys, just instruct the officials to crack down on it. If it's borderline, give the player a warning the first time, but tell him that the next time he does it, it's a penalty; then follow through.

This crap with "Two feet must remain on the ground, or it is a 15 yard penalty" is completely stupid. If a guy like TO/Joe Horn/Chad Johnson wants to plan an elaborate TD celebration, he'll just go do it on his team's sideline, and not in the end zone. Is that still a penalty?

I firmly believe that "excessive" celebration penalties should be judgement calls made on the field, by the officials. Not all circumstances are equal, as far as TD's go. If it's a major rivalry game (Steelers/Bengals, for example), in a game with serious playoff implications for both teams, and you score a TD to put your team ahead with a minute left, it is a very emotional moment. You and your teammates should definitely be allowed to celebrate a little more than if you're in a meaningless game, down 35-7 and you score a garbage TD late in the game to make it a 21 point game. In that situation, ANY sort of celebration should be considered excessive, even something as simple as spiking the ball.

 

[gost8]

I get what your saying but I think it would be tough to enforce it like that. I can hear the ref now..."We have a personal foul on the offense for excessive celebration and since the score is now 28-7 it violates the 3 touchdown or more celebration rule, but since this is a Pittsburgh vs Cincinnati play-off game it is ok so we're picking up the flag."

I know I am being over dramatic but I don't really need any of the "look at me, I scored a TD" crap. It isn't matter of it being the no fun league either. I played football (no not in the NFL) and had a great time doing it. Our coach would have kicked our asses if we acted like idiots after we scored. I'm not saying that they have to go over and hand the ball over to the ref and walk calmly off the field, but you can clearly tell when a guy has been thinking for a few days on what he's gonna do next.

The NFL already had an excessive celebration penalty in place, did they not? From my understanding, it was just too vague as to what was allowed and what wasn't.

If they wanted to reign in these guys, just instruct the officials to crack down on it. If it's borderline, give the player a warning the first time, but tell him that the next time he does it, it's a penalty; then follow through.

This crap with "Two feet must remain on the ground, or it is a 15 yard penalty" is completely stupid. If a guy like TO/Joe Horn/Chad Johnson wants to plan an elaborate TD celebration, he'll just go do it on his team's sideline, and not in the end zone. Is that still a penalty?

I firmly believe that "excessive" celebration penalties should be judgement calls made on the field, by the officials. Not all circumstances are equal, as far as TD's go. If it's a major rivalry game (Steelers/Bengals, for example), in a game with serious playoff implications for both teams, and you score a TD to put your team ahead with a minute left, it is a very emotional moment. You and your teammates should definitely be allowed to celebrate a little more than if you're in a meaningless game, down 35-7 and you score a garbage TD late in the game to make it a 21 point game. In that situation, ANY sort of celebration should be considered excessive, even something as simple as spiking the ball.

 

[BB73]

The only problem with that is you open the can of worms of what is off color and what isn't. I agree with what they have done. They have made it cut and dry what you can do and what you can't. I don't mind spiking the ball or dunking it over the cross bar but it makes me wanna puke when these guys act like they have never been in the endzone before. Spike the ball and get off the field. When you spend time before the game deciding what you will do if you will score I hate it. That is what I would like to see removed from football. Screw the penalty, hit em in the pocket.

We need some more Barry Sanders in the league.

Right now these guys are all attention whores (wheres that picture Thump?) LOOK AT ME... LOOK AT ME !!!!

Not Thump, but did you mean one of these?