Peek'n Peak is in NY, as hawg mentioned. It's decent, but I remember enjoying Holiday Valley more.
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Brutus1
Don't be penurious, donate to the BP Spring Dr.
Agreed, HV is much nicer than Peek n Peak. It's worth the extra hour to drive there.
I've been to Blue Knob. Don't waste your time. Much like SS, it's only good if you're there after a fresh dump. The layout is odd and like Snowshoe, it's an upside down resort. It has a nice vertical but, not nice enough for the drive.
Ft. Collins: You certainly make me sick!!!
Have fun.
I've been to Blue Knob. Don't waste your time. Much like SS, it's only good if you're there after a fresh dump. The layout is odd and like Snowshoe, it's an upside down resort. It has a nice vertical but, not nice enough for the drive.
Ft. Collins: You certainly make me sick!!!
Have fun.
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jimotis4heisman
Banned
i enjoy the ice of eastern skiing better...FCollinsBuckeye said:I'm going up to Steamboat Springs this weekend for some kneedeep powder.
Suckers. :p
ok thats a lie
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exhawg
Mirror Guy
I've been to PnP several time and HV once so I might be a little biased. Some slopes were closed at HV due to lack of snow especially The Wall. The best thing about PnP at least up here where I'm at is that you can make a day trip out of it. HV is further away so you have to spend the night. We went to HV last year and I was so beat after the first day that I didn't even want to go out the next day. We ended up only staying a few hours on Sunday before we headed back. 1 8 hour day is enough for me. Anyplace in Ohio is small enough that 4 hours is usually too much and all the slopes get boring.
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gbearbuck
Herbie for President
As stated above, if you don't want PA or WV (I like snow shoe better than Seven Springs... I consider Seven Springs a bigger version of the Ohio slopes (although not much more in the vertical department).
Peak N' Peak is a fun little resort in upstate NY. it isn't near the size (and has a smaller vertical) of Holiday Valley. The drive to HV isn't too bad, however you def. want to make a three day trip of it (leave Thursday after work/late afternoon, arrive Thurs. night and ski all day Fri, and Sat. then head home on Sun.)...
Vermont is a totally different ballpark than PA/WV/NY... VT is actually on a mountain range, and offers slopes with decent vertical... I'd suggest a week trip to VT and hit a different resort each time (they are close enough that you can get to most within an hour of each other).
FCollins,
Don't step in my vomit while you're out skiing with Billy:tongue2: I've been out there twice (a week and a half each time), and puked more in that little town than the rest combined (granted it was at age 19 and 20 when I had a fake... I'd drink till I puked and continue to drink... thank goodness I outgrew that, or I'd prob. need a liver transplant right now
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Peak N' Peak is a fun little resort in upstate NY. it isn't near the size (and has a smaller vertical) of Holiday Valley. The drive to HV isn't too bad, however you def. want to make a three day trip of it (leave Thursday after work/late afternoon, arrive Thurs. night and ski all day Fri, and Sat. then head home on Sun.)...
Vermont is a totally different ballpark than PA/WV/NY... VT is actually on a mountain range, and offers slopes with decent vertical... I'd suggest a week trip to VT and hit a different resort each time (they are close enough that you can get to most within an hour of each other).
FCollins,
Don't step in my vomit while you're out skiing with Billy:tongue2: I've been out there twice (a week and a half each time), and puked more in that little town than the rest combined (granted it was at age 19 and 20 when I had a fake... I'd drink till I puked and continue to drink... thank goodness I outgrew that, or I'd prob. need a liver transplant right now
)
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PrincessPeach
I want to ride my bicycle.
I'm going up to Steamboat Springs this weekend for some kneedeep powder.
Suckers. :p
You don't mind if I hate you, do you? :p
For the record, I agree that Holiday Valley is much better than Peek 'n' Peak, but PnP is a bit closer. Kissing Bridge is also a decent NY option, though I admittedly haven't been there for several years.
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I'd drink till I puked and continue to drink... thank goodness I outgrew that, or I'd prob. need a liver transplant right now
At what point did you outgrow this, and why didn't you tell me...
Sissy.
Anyway...
If you're jsut looking at the Skiing, I'd go Snowshoe or Holiday Valley.
But... the others are nicer resorts, I think...
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Taosman
Your Cousin In New Mexxico
Here's some advice from some one who learned to ski in the east.
Save some money up and head out west to experience spring skiing.
Once you've experienced a spring ski day in the sun, you'll be forever spoiled.
Few things are as enjoyable as skiing on a sunny, spring day on soft snow.
Bliss. A spiritual experience. [no smiley]
Now, if Taos would only get some snow I'd be a happy skier.
Save some money up and head out west to experience spring skiing.
Once you've experienced a spring ski day in the sun, you'll be forever spoiled.
Few things are as enjoyable as skiing on a sunny, spring day on soft snow.
Bliss. A spiritual experience. [no smiley]
Now, if Taos would only get some snow I'd be a happy skier.
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korchiki
Hall of Fame
my family belongs to Holimont which is a private membership thing on the ohter side of Holiday Valley...i can tell you that i went there during Xmas and it was decent but not like past years...however i think more snow is to come (hopeful wishing) so I would say HV it def better than P&P
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Taosman
Your Cousin In New Mexxico
For those wealthy, and I do mean wealthy alums.
The Yellowstone Private Ski Club
$250,000 initiation fee.
With Warren "Ski Film" Miller at the wheel, we take a left-hand turn off the access road to Big Sky, pass a small gatehouse and begin to take in this 13,400-acre private paradise, where timber baron Tim Blixseth has already invested a small fortune. The parcel is framed by Big Sky's towering Lone Mountain, the Gallatin range and magnificent wilderness. We drive past two large houses under construction, the first belonging to champion golfer Tom Weiskopf, who is designing an 18-hole course here that will open for play in 2002, and the second to cycling legend Greg LeMond. While the housing component of the Yellowstone Club is a work in progress-there are just two completed homes and 24 under construction-the ski area is most certainly ready for guests.
We park a few feet away from the cozy, informal Buffalo Bar & Grill, boot up and climb on the high-speed Lodge Lift. It is President's Weekend, and at Big Sky the locals are complaining loudly about liftlines. At the Yellowstone Club, there may be two dozen skiers, tops. The previous week, the mountain's five lifts and three restaurants were fully staffed to serve all of its on-site members, which consisted of a woman from Greenwich, Conn., and her two kids.
The Yellowstone Club is everything I'd imagined. The twisting trails of the lower mountain are meticulously groomed and, as Warren notes, they are comparable to Big Burn at Snowmass or Vail's Lionshead-without all the people. As we ski down to the high-speed Lake Lift, I can't help noticing all the fresh powder still lining the groomed slopes, though it hasn't snowed for five days. We let our skis run on the last steep section of Dream Catcher and head into the lift terminal at an extremely high rate of speed. There are no mazes at the Yellowstone Club, so there really is no reason to slow down.
On the way up, Warren explains how many thousands of cubic yards of earth were moved on this slope to make the fall line ski just right, a degree of sculpting that would be nearly impossible at a mountain on U.S. Forest Service land, where such a proposal would raise the hackles of a handful of federal agencies. Warren pulls out a trail map at the summit and we view it upside down: In response to one of the filmmaker's pet peeves, the Yellowstone Club has printed trail names right side up and upside down.
"If you're on the mountain, hold the map this way," it advises. The trails include Quarterback Sneak, named for club member and ex-NFL star Jack Kemp, who was also a congressman, and EBITDA, the Wall Street corporate term that refers to "earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization." EBITDA is top-of-mind for managers at North America's publicly traded ski resorts, but here it's merely a reminder of another world.
Lunch is at the mid-mountain Timberline Café, where it is extremely difficult to decide which is superior: the views, ambience, service or food. Warren is still recovering from a badly broken leg and is sticking mostly to the groomed, so after lunch I hook up with Brandy Miller, the Yellowstone Club's PR manager, and we ride the Mountain Lift to the 9,860-foot summit of Pioneer. I'd had dinner with Brandy two months earlier in Vail, and I recalled her as being soft-spoken, professional and petite-an ideal spokesperson for the Yellowstone Club. It turns out she comes from a Montana family with deep roots in the National Park Service, took a liking to firearms at the age of 5 and spent large amounts of her youth prowling the backcountry of Yellowstone and the wild terrain of Bridger Bowl, where she was a strong junior racer. And it turns out that I'm about to be introduced to another side of the Yellowstone Club, too.
Soon I am trying to keep up with Brandy as she charges down the 40- and 45-degree chutes off Pioneer, runs such as Stein's, Elevator Shaft and Hourglass-all legitimate double blacks. We also tackle the backside of Pioneer, which offers even more variety and a lot of untracked snow. It occurs to me that not only am I skiing in 12 inches of powdery, untouched snow that fell five days ago, but I am in terrain that has never even been skied. This is the reality at a mountain with 2,000 skiable acres and roughly that number of annual skier visits-what Vail does before lunch on a slow Wednesday. My first impression of Yellowstone-skiing on creamy corduroy-only tells part of the story. The real draw is the heli-like powder experience available almost seven days a week.
Riding up the Lake Lift with Yellowstone Mountain Manager Jon Reveal, a former pro racer, Everest climber and ex-GM at Arapahoe Basin and Aspen Mountain, he tells me that his peers all joke that he won the "Super Bowl of mountain managers." He also explains how Yellowstone's five chairs, including three high-speed quads, aren't enough. This summer the resort added three new chairs, which in itself qualifies it as arguably the most ambitious expansion in North America this season. Better yet, with access to Andesite Mountain, club members now will be able to ski to Big Sky and back. At buildout, Yellowstone itself will offer a gondola and a dozen chairs serving its 2,760-foot vertical drop and 4,000 acres of terrain.
So what's it all cost? At first blush, the price of entry seems exorbitant. The initiation fee is $250,000, annual dues are $16,000 and a full-on trophy home will add at least another $2 million or $3 million. Then again, have you looked at the price of real estate in Vail, Aspen or Sun Valley lately? A condo at the base of Vail recently sold for $5 million; the average sale price of a single-family home in Aspen is $3.4 million-plus, and a Sun Valley home is listed for $14 million. And those investments don't include unlimited lift tickets and golf for every member of your immediate family-plus carte blanche use of Yellowstone's facilities.
The Yellowstone Private Ski Club
$250,000 initiation fee.
With Warren "Ski Film" Miller at the wheel, we take a left-hand turn off the access road to Big Sky, pass a small gatehouse and begin to take in this 13,400-acre private paradise, where timber baron Tim Blixseth has already invested a small fortune. The parcel is framed by Big Sky's towering Lone Mountain, the Gallatin range and magnificent wilderness. We drive past two large houses under construction, the first belonging to champion golfer Tom Weiskopf, who is designing an 18-hole course here that will open for play in 2002, and the second to cycling legend Greg LeMond. While the housing component of the Yellowstone Club is a work in progress-there are just two completed homes and 24 under construction-the ski area is most certainly ready for guests.
We park a few feet away from the cozy, informal Buffalo Bar & Grill, boot up and climb on the high-speed Lodge Lift. It is President's Weekend, and at Big Sky the locals are complaining loudly about liftlines. At the Yellowstone Club, there may be two dozen skiers, tops. The previous week, the mountain's five lifts and three restaurants were fully staffed to serve all of its on-site members, which consisted of a woman from Greenwich, Conn., and her two kids.
The Yellowstone Club is everything I'd imagined. The twisting trails of the lower mountain are meticulously groomed and, as Warren notes, they are comparable to Big Burn at Snowmass or Vail's Lionshead-without all the people. As we ski down to the high-speed Lake Lift, I can't help noticing all the fresh powder still lining the groomed slopes, though it hasn't snowed for five days. We let our skis run on the last steep section of Dream Catcher and head into the lift terminal at an extremely high rate of speed. There are no mazes at the Yellowstone Club, so there really is no reason to slow down.
On the way up, Warren explains how many thousands of cubic yards of earth were moved on this slope to make the fall line ski just right, a degree of sculpting that would be nearly impossible at a mountain on U.S. Forest Service land, where such a proposal would raise the hackles of a handful of federal agencies. Warren pulls out a trail map at the summit and we view it upside down: In response to one of the filmmaker's pet peeves, the Yellowstone Club has printed trail names right side up and upside down.
"If you're on the mountain, hold the map this way," it advises. The trails include Quarterback Sneak, named for club member and ex-NFL star Jack Kemp, who was also a congressman, and EBITDA, the Wall Street corporate term that refers to "earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization." EBITDA is top-of-mind for managers at North America's publicly traded ski resorts, but here it's merely a reminder of another world.
Lunch is at the mid-mountain Timberline Café, where it is extremely difficult to decide which is superior: the views, ambience, service or food. Warren is still recovering from a badly broken leg and is sticking mostly to the groomed, so after lunch I hook up with Brandy Miller, the Yellowstone Club's PR manager, and we ride the Mountain Lift to the 9,860-foot summit of Pioneer. I'd had dinner with Brandy two months earlier in Vail, and I recalled her as being soft-spoken, professional and petite-an ideal spokesperson for the Yellowstone Club. It turns out she comes from a Montana family with deep roots in the National Park Service, took a liking to firearms at the age of 5 and spent large amounts of her youth prowling the backcountry of Yellowstone and the wild terrain of Bridger Bowl, where she was a strong junior racer. And it turns out that I'm about to be introduced to another side of the Yellowstone Club, too.
Soon I am trying to keep up with Brandy as she charges down the 40- and 45-degree chutes off Pioneer, runs such as Stein's, Elevator Shaft and Hourglass-all legitimate double blacks. We also tackle the backside of Pioneer, which offers even more variety and a lot of untracked snow. It occurs to me that not only am I skiing in 12 inches of powdery, untouched snow that fell five days ago, but I am in terrain that has never even been skied. This is the reality at a mountain with 2,000 skiable acres and roughly that number of annual skier visits-what Vail does before lunch on a slow Wednesday. My first impression of Yellowstone-skiing on creamy corduroy-only tells part of the story. The real draw is the heli-like powder experience available almost seven days a week.
Riding up the Lake Lift with Yellowstone Mountain Manager Jon Reveal, a former pro racer, Everest climber and ex-GM at Arapahoe Basin and Aspen Mountain, he tells me that his peers all joke that he won the "Super Bowl of mountain managers." He also explains how Yellowstone's five chairs, including three high-speed quads, aren't enough. This summer the resort added three new chairs, which in itself qualifies it as arguably the most ambitious expansion in North America this season. Better yet, with access to Andesite Mountain, club members now will be able to ski to Big Sky and back. At buildout, Yellowstone itself will offer a gondola and a dozen chairs serving its 2,760-foot vertical drop and 4,000 acres of terrain.
So what's it all cost? At first blush, the price of entry seems exorbitant. The initiation fee is $250,000, annual dues are $16,000 and a full-on trophy home will add at least another $2 million or $3 million. Then again, have you looked at the price of real estate in Vail, Aspen or Sun Valley lately? A condo at the base of Vail recently sold for $5 million; the average sale price of a single-family home in Aspen is $3.4 million-plus, and a Sun Valley home is listed for $14 million. And those investments don't include unlimited lift tickets and golf for every member of your immediate family-plus carte blanche use of Yellowstone's facilities.
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elliemae
steeler-buckeye fan
I agree totally! I used to be up there every week. I used to ski for free,my friend was an assistant ski racing coach up there & he has a place up there as well & I'd go up for days it was a blast! I wouldn't waste my money now with the conditions. That place used to be party central for me!
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BuckBackHome
Wolverine is largest member of weasel family
Ah, I learned to ski at Boston Mills. Your edges had to be razor sharp as those slopes were all ice. The only time I skied out west was at Steamboat. I had no idea what to do in all that powder. We are out there for nearly a week and had a foot of fresh snow every night.
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gbearbuck
Herbie for President
I spent a week in Big Sky back in the winter of '94... it was a ghost town back then, no lines, no crowds, limited lodging, etc... my guess is things have changed. There was nothing but ranches, I would think you could purchase land within a few min. of the mountain and build a little resort home (for not too expensive)...
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