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There are other sports at OSU??? 
EDIT: (my non-sarcastic response)
I would doubt there would be enough traffic for "former" basketball, baseball, wrestling, players etc. to warrent each sports own forum, but I'd guess those topics currently fit nicely enough into the existing forums without causing too much clutter as things are presently.
EDIT: (my non-sarcastic response)
I would doubt there would be enough traffic for "former" basketball, baseball, wrestling, players etc. to warrent each sports own forum, but I'd guess those topics currently fit nicely enough into the existing forums without causing too much clutter as things are presently.
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I think it should be just for football players, but I hope that the other major sports will consider a similar forum.
I really enjoy hearing what's going on with these guys as they get on with life but I wouldn't know much about our baseball players or hockey players, as these aren't sports I watch closely.
I really enjoy hearing what's going on with these guys as they get on with life but I wouldn't know much about our baseball players or hockey players, as these aren't sports I watch closely.
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Taosman
Your Cousin In New Mexxico
Jason La CanforaWashington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 18, 2005; Page E01
If his father needs him, Shawn Springs says he will walk away from the money, the celebrity and the glamorous lifestyle of a professional athlete. The Washington Redskins cornerback, upon learning several years ago that his father needed a kidney transplant, offered one of his own, knowing he would not be allowed to play pro football with just one kidney.
But his father, Ron, the former Dallas Cowboys fullback who suffers from complications related to diabetes -- he had a foot amputated this year -- declined the offer and would not let his son even be tested to see if he is a transplant match.
Shawn Springs and his father Ron have a close relationship and Shawn would have given up his NFL career to give Ron the kidney transplant he needs. (Courtesy Photo)
REDSKINS 35, COWBOYS 7
The Redskins keep their playoff hopes firmly intact, routing Dallas on Sunday for their third victory in a row and their first season sweep of the Cowboys in 10 years.
Michael Wilbon: It's been a long time since the Redskins so thoroughly dominated such a worthy opponent.
Thomas Boswell: This was Joe Gibbs's moment, the one he came back for.
Tony Kornheiser: The Redskins helped themselves to a second serving of Tuna.
In part, the Cowboys were done in by Chris Cooley's boyish exuberance -- and his three touchdown catches.
For the Redskins faithful at FedEx Field, disbelief gives way to elation.
Mark Brunell rebounds with one of his best games, throwing four touchdowns.
Washington's defense was stung by suggestions it would be dominated by the Dallas passing came.
The Cowboys, who now lose any tiebreaker to the Redskins, appear to be a team in trouble.
Notebook: Guard Randy Thomas breaks his right leg and is out for the season.
Best & Worst
Quarterly Report
Post at the Game: Look back at The Post's in-game analysis.
FROM SUNDAY'S POST
Redskins cornerback Shawn Springs was willing to risk his NFL career to give his father a kidney transplant.
On Our Site
Summary
Grade the Redskins.
Talk about the game.
Photos: The Redskins get seven sacks from their defense and four touchdown passes from Mark Brunell to stun Dallas, 35-7.
Audio
The Post's Tony Kornheiser and Gene Wang look back on what the win means.
Joe Gibbs is proud of the Redskins, effort.
Chris Cooley had a lot of fun on Sunday.
Drew Bledsoe expected a lot more.
HOW IT CAN HAPPEN
The Redskins still can win the NFC East, but they would need some help.
If the Redskins win their remaining games, including beating the Giants on Saturday, and the Giants lose their finale against Oakland, the Redskins would win the division under the tiebreaker rules.
If the division ends in a three-way tie, the Redskins would win the tiebreakers.
Wild Card The Redskins, who currently hold the sixth seed, have their playoff hopes in their own hands. If they win their final two games, they would secure a postseason berth. The Redskins hold tiebreaker advantages over the Cowboys, Vikings and Falcons. There are eight teams going after five spots.
Basics
Roster
Statistics
Transactions
Depth chart
Schedule, results
NFL schedule, by date
NFL schedule, by team
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The Post's Mark Maske on all things NFL -- only on washingtonpost.com.
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"I think that was a tremendous gesture, and it just justifies the fact that he's a loving son," Ron Springs said by telephone from his Dallas home this past week. "But I couldn't have let him do that, because I always prayed and wanted him to be a professional athlete, so I would not have shortened his career by no means necessary."
When the Redskins and Cowboys meet today in a critical NFC East game, Ron Springs, 49, will be home in Dallas unable to make the trip for fear that it will worsen his condition. He knows he needs a transplant soon and has been buoyed by the recent news that one of his nieces is possibly a match.
"I was really going to try to make the game," he said, "but I had to get some extra therapy and the prosthesis I have has been giving me trouble, so I'm trying to get that fixed. So it would have been too much trouble to travel through the airport and walking around. I don't want to risk anything, and I wouldn't want to do something to set back my transplant. I'm just going to lay back, relax, have a good holiday and don't do anything stupid to eliminate my chances of getting a transplant immediately."
For Shawn Springs, who has spent years trying to track down family members and researching the transplant process, the news could not have been more timely. He also realizes, however, that there still are hurdles to overcome before his father can regain his health. So the Pro Bowl defensive back still has not ruled out becoming a donor at some point.
"Hopefully, everything is going to work out; we're just waiting on it," Shawn Springs said. "The thing is, when you're waiting on a kidney transplant and you're a diabetic he's never really healthy enough to receive the kidney. And sometimes he might be ready to, and then he gets sick or has an ulcer or something. That's the tough deal, getting it so it won't reject.
"So, yeah, if it came down to do it, if that was the last resort, I'd do it. I know he told me no, but I'd be a donor. Obviously, my NFL career would be over, but that's something I would have to do. It's a part of life and I'd go on and teach school after I'm done playing football or something. Be a reporter or whatever. I'd just do something else."
While Shawn Springs, 30, who grew up in Silver Spring, spent the week receiving treatment for back and knee injuries at Redskins Park, doing what he can to be available for the Redskins' biggest game in quite awhile at FedEx Field, his father was undergoing his grueling weekly regimen. Ron Springs receives dialysis every Monday, Wednesday and Friday and spent three months in a hospital earlier this year because of a staph infection. Even relatively minor ailments can become major for him.
Still, the decision to miss the critical game was not easy. Father and son realize the stakes in this rivalry from their unique place in it.
Ron Springs, who attends as many of Shawn's home and road games as possible, grew up in Redskins country in Williamsburg, then became a well-recognized Cowboy and now lives near Texas Stadium. Shawn looked up to his father and emulated the Cowboys' stars, but had an appreciation for the Redskins during their glory days as well.
Ron Springs, a gregarious and outspoken locker-room leader during his NFL career, spent six seasons with the Cowboys and two with Tampa Bay before retiring. He was a key component in some of Hall of Fame tailback Tony Dorsett's best seasons, and a fixture on the playoff teams from 1981 to 1983 (he led Dallas in touchdowns in 1981). The Redskins were on the rise then, winning their first Super Bowl in the 1982 season under Coach Joe Gibbs, and Dallas-Washington games were a national event. The importance of today's game -- with both teams battling for a playoff spot after several lean years -- made it even more tempting to come to Washington.
Sunday, December 18, 2005; Page E01
If his father needs him, Shawn Springs says he will walk away from the money, the celebrity and the glamorous lifestyle of a professional athlete. The Washington Redskins cornerback, upon learning several years ago that his father needed a kidney transplant, offered one of his own, knowing he would not be allowed to play pro football with just one kidney.
But his father, Ron, the former Dallas Cowboys fullback who suffers from complications related to diabetes -- he had a foot amputated this year -- declined the offer and would not let his son even be tested to see if he is a transplant match.
REDSKINS 35, COWBOYS 7
The Redskins keep their playoff hopes firmly intact, routing Dallas on Sunday for their third victory in a row and their first season sweep of the Cowboys in 10 years.
Michael Wilbon: It's been a long time since the Redskins so thoroughly dominated such a worthy opponent.
Thomas Boswell: This was Joe Gibbs's moment, the one he came back for.
Tony Kornheiser: The Redskins helped themselves to a second serving of Tuna.
In part, the Cowboys were done in by Chris Cooley's boyish exuberance -- and his three touchdown catches.
For the Redskins faithful at FedEx Field, disbelief gives way to elation.
Mark Brunell rebounds with one of his best games, throwing four touchdowns.
Washington's defense was stung by suggestions it would be dominated by the Dallas passing came.
The Cowboys, who now lose any tiebreaker to the Redskins, appear to be a team in trouble.
Notebook: Guard Randy Thomas breaks his right leg and is out for the season.
Best & Worst
Quarterly Report
Post at the Game: Look back at The Post's in-game analysis.
FROM SUNDAY'S POST
Redskins cornerback Shawn Springs was willing to risk his NFL career to give his father a kidney transplant.
On Our Site
Summary
Grade the Redskins.
Talk about the game.
Photos: The Redskins get seven sacks from their defense and four touchdown passes from Mark Brunell to stun Dallas, 35-7.
Audio
The Post's Tony Kornheiser and Gene Wang look back on what the win means.
Joe Gibbs is proud of the Redskins, effort.
Chris Cooley had a lot of fun on Sunday.
Drew Bledsoe expected a lot more.
HOW IT CAN HAPPEN
The Redskins still can win the NFC East, but they would need some help.
If the Redskins win their remaining games, including beating the Giants on Saturday, and the Giants lose their finale against Oakland, the Redskins would win the division under the tiebreaker rules.
If the division ends in a three-way tie, the Redskins would win the tiebreakers.
Wild Card The Redskins, who currently hold the sixth seed, have their playoff hopes in their own hands. If they win their final two games, they would secure a postseason berth. The Redskins hold tiebreaker advantages over the Cowboys, Vikings and Falcons. There are eight teams going after five spots.
Basics
Roster
Statistics
Transactions
Depth chart
Schedule, results
NFL schedule, by date
NFL schedule, by team
E-mail Newsletter
Looking for Redskins coverage you can't find anywhere else? Sign up for our free e-mail newsletter.
NFL Insider
The Post's Mark Maske on all things NFL -- only on washingtonpost.com.
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"I think that was a tremendous gesture, and it just justifies the fact that he's a loving son," Ron Springs said by telephone from his Dallas home this past week. "But I couldn't have let him do that, because I always prayed and wanted him to be a professional athlete, so I would not have shortened his career by no means necessary."
When the Redskins and Cowboys meet today in a critical NFC East game, Ron Springs, 49, will be home in Dallas unable to make the trip for fear that it will worsen his condition. He knows he needs a transplant soon and has been buoyed by the recent news that one of his nieces is possibly a match.
"I was really going to try to make the game," he said, "but I had to get some extra therapy and the prosthesis I have has been giving me trouble, so I'm trying to get that fixed. So it would have been too much trouble to travel through the airport and walking around. I don't want to risk anything, and I wouldn't want to do something to set back my transplant. I'm just going to lay back, relax, have a good holiday and don't do anything stupid to eliminate my chances of getting a transplant immediately."
For Shawn Springs, who has spent years trying to track down family members and researching the transplant process, the news could not have been more timely. He also realizes, however, that there still are hurdles to overcome before his father can regain his health. So the Pro Bowl defensive back still has not ruled out becoming a donor at some point.
"Hopefully, everything is going to work out; we're just waiting on it," Shawn Springs said. "The thing is, when you're waiting on a kidney transplant and you're a diabetic he's never really healthy enough to receive the kidney. And sometimes he might be ready to, and then he gets sick or has an ulcer or something. That's the tough deal, getting it so it won't reject.
"So, yeah, if it came down to do it, if that was the last resort, I'd do it. I know he told me no, but I'd be a donor. Obviously, my NFL career would be over, but that's something I would have to do. It's a part of life and I'd go on and teach school after I'm done playing football or something. Be a reporter or whatever. I'd just do something else."
While Shawn Springs, 30, who grew up in Silver Spring, spent the week receiving treatment for back and knee injuries at Redskins Park, doing what he can to be available for the Redskins' biggest game in quite awhile at FedEx Field, his father was undergoing his grueling weekly regimen. Ron Springs receives dialysis every Monday, Wednesday and Friday and spent three months in a hospital earlier this year because of a staph infection. Even relatively minor ailments can become major for him.
Still, the decision to miss the critical game was not easy. Father and son realize the stakes in this rivalry from their unique place in it.
Ron Springs, who attends as many of Shawn's home and road games as possible, grew up in Redskins country in Williamsburg, then became a well-recognized Cowboy and now lives near Texas Stadium. Shawn looked up to his father and emulated the Cowboys' stars, but had an appreciation for the Redskins during their glory days as well.
Ron Springs, a gregarious and outspoken locker-room leader during his NFL career, spent six seasons with the Cowboys and two with Tampa Bay before retiring. He was a key component in some of Hall of Fame tailback Tony Dorsett's best seasons, and a fixture on the playoff teams from 1981 to 1983 (he led Dallas in touchdowns in 1981). The Redskins were on the rise then, winning their first Super Bowl in the 1982 season under Coach Joe Gibbs, and Dallas-Washington games were a national event. The importance of today's game -- with both teams battling for a playoff spot after several lean years -- made it even more tempting to come to Washington.
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Yes because football is the only forum that will generate enough traffic to actually require a separate forum for threads discussing past players.
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Since this forum is a subforum of the Football forum, then yes it should be for football players only. If there's enough interest to talk about former Buckeye basketball players, then we could set up a "Former Buckeyes" subforum under the Basketball forum.
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TheStoicPaisano
But I didn't, so it doesn't
My opinion is for football players only. The OSU basketball, baseball (and other sports) have a smaller amount of players to keep track of. Maybe we can get a former Buckeye basketball forum when Oden and Co. make the league.
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Golferdow01
East-Coast Living
I agree we should have a similar one in the Basketball forum, especially since the team is on the verge of being great.
Just having one for the football forum simply continues to put the other major sport on the backburner.
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I'd say its more of a traffic issue than a backburner issue.
Too many forums equals difficult navigation. We need to avoid overpopulating the forums.
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jimotis4heisman
Banned
and how many pro players are we tracking in basketball?osugrad21 said:
a dozen if you include guys in europe who you never hear about...
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who is there to follow tho? There are dozens of football players, vs a handful of bball players. Is there really a need for a former buckeye bball forum right now? Redd would be the main guy, and there has not been new info just about Redd since november (ignoring when his name came up in trade talks, the cavs thread, or a game thread).
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Do you think the basketball forum cycles through threads as quickly as the football forum? Is there a need to completely separate? Im not saying the issue will not come to that, but I don't see it right now.
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