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School now required to provide sports for disabled students

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Schools now required to provide sports for disabled students

Disabled students must be given sports, says Education Dept.

The feds are ordering schools across the country to make "reasonable" changes to sports programs so that disabled students can play - or else create separate teams for them.

The new guidance from the Education Department issued Friday was hailed by advocates for the disabled but denounced by a conservative think-tank that said it could cost big bucks for cash-strapped schools.

"We think it's huge and historic. In my opinion it could have the same effect, if properly implemented, as Title IX did for women," said Kirk Bauer, executive director of Disabled Sports USA.

Title IX required schools to offer girls and boys the same athletic opportunities and resulted in a huge uptick in female participation in school sports after it took effect 40 years ago.

The new order from the Education Department says athletics is also a civil right for the disabled and schools that don't protect it could lose federal funding.

Under the latest rules, schools must tweak traditional programs to give qualified disabled students a shot at playing as long as they can do it without fundamentally changing the sport or giving anyone an advantage.

For instance, a visual aid instead of a starter pistol for the deaf runner would be easy to implement, while adding a fifth base to a baseball field to shorten running distances would be considered too big a change.

If alterations to a traditional team aren't feasible, schools must create a sports program that is open to disabled students, the order says. If there aren't enough students, schools should seek to create district-wide, regional or mixed-gender programs.

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I'm cool with disabled kids being in sports but I have a pretty strong suspicion this is going to spawn some pretty serious unintended consequences.
 
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And I mean no great offense by this but - what (athletic) sport could a school "create" that severely disabled children could play?

More importantly, the school district now has to coordinator games for competition.

Somethings aren't for everyone.
 
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Buckeneye;2296959; said:
And I mean no great offense by this but - what (athletic) sport could a school "create" that severely disabled children could play?

More importantly, the school district now has to coordinator games for competition.

Somethings aren't for everyone.

Yep - this is in no way meant to belittle or demean kids with disabilities, but this is fucking stupid idea. Typical of what has been coming out of the Ed. Department for 30 years or more.
 
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Another thing - creating "separate teams" isn't just as easy as saying it.

On top of the fact if its only one or two kids then, I'm sorry... you don't have
the participation level necessary to justify additional funds or coaching time.

The world can't always be expected to conform to you. Lord knows I feel bad. Especially if a disable kid wants to play football. I'm not sure what I'd do if I somehow couldn't play as a passion. That said - you're also running the risk of disabled students causing harm to themselves for not being physically capable of "upper tier" sports.
 
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Schools don't have the money to do basic things in schools, but we're going to force them to invent teams out of necessity.

Sports with too many players lead to increased levels of play. JV, Freshman, Recreational teams. If there was actually a serious demand for this, it would already be happening in unofficial channels without legislation forcing it to happen.
 
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If you read the plain text of what the federal rules say, it doesn't sound bad at all. But today's Dispatch showed an example of its more recent manifestation - a nearly-blind young woman running with her guide dog at a cross-country meet.

That's just stupid. Dogs at XC meets are going to disrupt other runners. And other accommodations are going to cost big money. This is why education has become so expensive - we're being held hostage by advocates for the disabled, who insist upon all manner of expensive and unreasonable "accommodations" that have become unfunded mandates on local school districts.
 
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If alterations to a traditional team aren't feasible, schools must create a sports program that is open to disabled students, the order says.
If there aren't enough students, schools should seek to create district-wide, regional or mixed-gender programs.

Dumb, the major problem being that not all disabled students at a school are going to be disabled in the same way ala a single sport isn't going to suffice to fit their needs. Schools just aren't going to be able to afford this.

I think if schools have ACTIVITIES that disabled students can partake in that should be enough. There shouldn't be a distinction between basketball and the chess club here. Sports aren't for everybody..period.
 
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JBaney45;2297378; said:


Dumb, the major problem being that not all disabled students at a school are going to be disabled in the same way ala a single sport isn't going to suffice to fit their needs. Schools just aren't going to be able to afford this.

I think if schools have ACTIVITIES that disabled students can partake in that should be enough. There shouldn't be a distinction between basketball and the chess club here. Sports aren't for everybody..period.


Isn't this why they invented cup stacking?
 
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jwinslow;2296968; said:
Schools don't have the money to do basic things in schools, but we're going to force them to invent teams out of necessity.

Sports with too many players lead to increased levels of play. JV, Freshman, Recreational teams. If there was actually a serious demand for this, it would already be happening in unofficial channels without legislation forcing it to happen.

Sounds like my whole argument against the smoking ban.
 
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Buckeneye;2296959; said:
And I mean no great offense by this but - what (athletic) sport could a school "create" that severely disabled children could play?

More importantly, the school district now has to coordinator games for competition.

Somethings aren't for everyone.

You could start with Special Olympics...

My own thinking is that schools would be better served if they concentrated on physical education programs and turned the interscholastic sports programs over to city/county recreation departments.
 
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Mike80;2296962; said:
Yep - this is in no way meant to belittle or demean kids with disabilities, but this is [censored]ing stupid idea. Typical of what has been coming out of the Ed. Department for 30 years or more.


That's very, very short minded of you. 30 years ago they said the same thing about Title IX and women's sports!

Now just look at the ratings! Everyone loves women's athletics! Why, tickets for the 2012 Women's Final Four couldn't be had for less than $12!

I think an effective argument could be made that the 2012 Georgia Tech Defense were all handicapped and they won their bowl game.
 
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BigWoof31;2297450; said:
That's very, very short minded of you. 30 years ago they said the same thing about Title IX and women's sports!

Now just look at the ratings! Everyone loves women's athletics! Why, tickets for the 2012 Women's Final Four couldn't be had for less than $12!

I think an effective argument could be made that the 2012 Georgia Tech Defense were all handicapped and they won their bowl game.

More people attend Bulldog women's gymnastics meets than they do men's basketball games.
 
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Muck;2297454; said:
More people attend Bulldog women's gymnastics meets than they do men's basketball games.

I can't even imagine a worse point. :lol:

Where's BN27?

I mean this:

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or... well, shitty SEC basketball.
 
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