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Say What? (Gene Smith)

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by 3yardsandacloud, Mar 11, 2005.

  1. 3yardsandacloud

    3yardsandacloud Administrator Emeritus

    Huh? I'm sorry but this (mis)statement by Gene Smith will certainly be remembered by many and is not what I'd call getting off to a good start at Ohio State. I guess he meant that the "team" lost to Michigan but he didn't. I'm mystified.

    (Gene Smith)
    - Columbus Dispatch

    Friday, March 11, 2005


    Perhaps Gene Smith had a case of selective amnesia Saturday during his introduction to media, alumni and friends at Ohio State’s Longaberger Alumni House.

    After being announced as OSU’s new athletics director, Smith drew applause from the partisan crowd when he said near the end of his prepared remarks, "Lastly, let me say, in my years of coaching at Notre Dame, I never lost to Michigan."

    Problem is, he did. Twice, in fact.

    Smith served as a Notre Dame assistant from 1977 to 1981, and the Irish lost to Michigan 28-14 in 1978 and 25-7 in 1981. The Irish also beat the Wolverines twice.

    Notre Dame and Michigan didn’t meet while he was an Irish player.
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2005
  2. VprHis

    VprHis Get off my lawn, you hooligans!


    Oh well... still not as bad as HOLEbrook and her 'Red and White" comment...
  3. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    her what? i gotta hear this. dont these retards know its garnet and gray?
  4. ScarletFever

    ScarletFever Newbie

    Big he forgot two losses in the 70s......lets give the guy a chance. Believe me, I not exaclty thrilled about a "Notre Dame guy" (yes I know he is from Cleveland...but I dont give a crap...he is still a domer) as our AD but I'm not going to run the guy ot of town without at least seeing what he brings to the table. I just hope he works well with Tressel...truthfully Tressel (to ME) is the most important individual in the department (yeah I know Thad will do wonders too, but Tressel is the best thing to happen to OSU in a decade). At least thats how I feel about it.....
  5. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    He's probably using the Gordan Gee definition of a win :roll2:, regardless someone needs to teach him what it means to wear the red and white in Buckeye Stadium. :(
  6. HabaneroBuck

    HabaneroBuck Non-Nike Design

    Yeah, we've got some nice people in top positions now (Tress and Matta), but it boggles my mind how a university that is pumping out some 10,000+ grads a year has to continually hire people like Smith, Holbrook, Cooper, and even Geiger for key positions of high visibility. It's like there's no true pride in the product put out by The OSU. Archie is played up well by the university in his role, so why not the other positions, too? I know I'm being a homer, but who CARES what some Domer did for that bunch of elitists in South Bend?
  7. Dryden

    Dryden Sober as Sarkisian Staff Member Tech Admin

    So who should take these important positions then? Jack? Richard Lewis? :tongue2:
  8. strohs

    strohs Go Bucks!

    Before you judge Smith, why dont you give him a chance?
    BTW, Neither Tress, nor Matta are buckeye grads either.

    Should add, what Smith said was pretty darn stupid.
  9. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Nice people? Who the heck do you want besides Tressel and Matta? Maybe you would prefer Bobby Knight, who would be just perfect for a school looking to clean up its reputation.

    First starting with Thad, how many coaches on our prospective list last year did we think could come in here and deliver a 20 win season? There's a good chance we could land multiple top-25 national prospects thanks to having Thad Matta (we already have one), and certainly should have a good shot every year at going dancing.

    And maybe you forgot about that NC Tressel delivered, and a 24-2 record over two seasons. Or the 3 wins out of 4 against UM including two huge upsets.

    Did this guy say something stupid? yep. Is that a reason to kick him out the door? hardly. Come next year when tOSU's football team has won the big10 and the bball team is playing in the NCAA tourney, I doubt anyone will do anything but laugh about this quote. Heck, maybe he'll actually manage to undo some of Holbrook's bad decisions. Maybe he'll put more emphasis on students at bball games, and the Schott will be sold out almost every game in a year or two.

    How exactly are tOSU grads always better to fill a role? I doubt there are tons of tOSU grads we would want at AD that are interested in walking into the cobwebs of tOSU's bball program. Hopefully everything will blow over, but unlike the football team there seems to be a lot of ugly stuff here. Plus regardless of the truth, the football team's woes also make it a less desirable position.

    Maybe you should look at it from the opposite perspective. tOSU has such an amazing athletic department that we draw people from all over the nation. You should hire someone with ohio connections that will be best at the job, regardless of where they graduated.
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2008
  10. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    What was wrong with Geiger...that guy did a shitload for university athletics.
  11. Elephant

    Elephant Junior

    Geiger was the man and always will be the man! Ohio State was very lucky to have such great A.D....
  12. I'm sure Smith is beginning to see just how complex the Buckeye system really is. Give him a few months to get in the saddle. Let's hope he's the type to give others credit, before taking it for other words, a real leader.
  13. VprHis

    VprHis Get off my lawn, you hooligans!

    All right, I'll probably get this wrong, so anyone who was there (note that this is a secondhand story, albeit from several people--so take it for what it's worth)... feel free to correct... I'll also ask around, and see if I can get someone to get over here and tell this properly.

    As I remember it (or as I remember being told) the bitch queen was addressing a TBDBITL alumni group... shortly after her hiring, and apparently she was still in hound dog mode, cause she said something along the lines of ' blah, blah proud to now be a Buckeye, and my new favorite colors, of course, are the red and white of Ohio State."

    ...Dead Silence...

    ...Confused Holebrook...

    ...Torches and Pitchforks emerge from the audience...

    ...Run, Forrest, Run!!!
  14. stxbuck

    stxbuck Woody wore Sambas

    Jeffrey Dahmer, Andrew Lee, and Louis Irizarry attended The Ohio State University. Thad Matta, Gene Smith, Jim Tressel, and Wayne Woodrow Hayes did not. Get over yourself. This is the dumbest post I have read in a while......
    BTW....mili,clarity...think about what your modearator buddies post.......
  15. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    Woody never won on style points.

    Geiger will go down as one of the most successful ADs in the history of college sports and is leaving an infrastructure legacy that is unparallelled.

    I think Gene Smith may have wanted to make a statement like Archie did or perhaps like Tressel's statement about going to TSUN the first time.

    I don't see any value in statements. I see value in an AD who is a class act and competitor of note. By class act, I mean someone who exudes integrity. Who does the right things for his teams no matter what the price. Who instills the values of hard work on the field and in the classroom. Who can teach these young men that dishonesty is the great leveller, especially dishonesty to one's self.

    I see value in someone who yearns to win so badly that it sometimes hurts. Who helps his teams understand that victory is earned 365 days a year and that there is no substitute for being ready to play. Who shows humility and respect toward all in victory and graciousness and respect in the rare instances of defeat.

    I see value in a motivator who helps young people see and share a vision of the national championship every year and then shows them the path of how to get there as a team and who makes sure his coaches have what it takes to provide that path.

    But I don't see any value in sound bite minutes. I see value in performance.

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