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Rose Bowl: USC 49, Illinois 17 (final)

osufootball727;1046138; said:
Did Kirk just say "If somehow Ohio State happens to beat LSU..."

Jesus Kirk........

USC's ridiculous celebrations, overall thuggery, and the way these media guys are all over their nuts is quickly making them my least favorite team in the nation aside from Michigan.

Thuggery? They don't have a whole lot on the blotter, they don't have players getting shot, hell, the most that happened is one of their players fell down a hill last year. While I agree they like to taunt and rub it in, you can see how the media generally feeds them the idea that they are invincible.

They are arrogant, they can be pretty rude to the opposing team and it's not beneath them to run it up a little, but I don't see them getting in tons of trouble or being what Miami was, so it's hard to call them thugs.
 
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LordJeffBuck;1046175; said:
USC 49, Illinois 10 late in the 4th quarter....

Props to Illinois for doing their best to cost Ohio State a national championship. First, you played your best game of the year against the Buckeyes, and got a narrow victory (thanks to some questionable officiating by a shady crew). Then, you laid down in the Rose Bowl, which will almost certainly cost Ohio State the AP title, even if the Buckeyes best LSU - how many seconds after the final gun before the national media coronates Southern Cal as the "real" national champs in 2007?

While I see what you are saying Jeff, I disagree. I don't think if OSU wins they can split the title, everyone can say whatever, but the reality is tOSU will be a 1-loss team. Now, if LSU pulls out a squeeker, I could see the AP title going to USC since both would have 2 losses.

You may be right, but with the system that college football has, that shouldn't be the case.
 
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OCBucksFan;1046345; said:
They are arrogant, they can be pretty rude to the opposing team and it's not beneath them to run it up a little, but I don't see them getting in tons of trouble or being what Miami was, so it's hard to call them thugs.

You don't have to have a police blotter to be a thug...
 
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gud2b4lsu;1046358; said:
as for as the split title goes shouldnt the word (STANFORD) mean anything?

It should, but the AP title seems to be all about the media love fest more than anything else. Look at the LSU/USC split, LSU didn't lose a game, but the media made so much out of the destruction that USC did to tsun that they suddenly forgot about the Cal loss. Ack, when I put it like that LordJeffBuck sounds like he could be right...
 
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OCBucksFan;1046359; said:
It should, but the AP title seems to be all about the media love fest more than anything else. Look at the LSU/USC split, LSU didn't lose a game, but the media made so much out of the destruction that USC did to tsun that they suddenly forgot about the Cal loss. Ack, when I put it like that LordJeffBuck sounds like he could be right...
LSU lost to UF in 03. On the other hand LSU should not have been punished because the BCS put OU in the NCG. Tigers just played who was put in front of them.
 
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If the #6 (AP) team that beat the #13 team (Illinois) jumps over the winner of a #1 vs/ #2 game, the AP poll will lose all relevance.

That's just not going to happen. USC shouldn't even jump over #4 Georgia, who's killing Hawaii right now.
 
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If the #6 (AP) team that beat the #13 team (Illinois) jumps over the winner of a #1 vs/ #2 game, the AP poll will lose all relevance.

That's just not going to happen. USC shouldn't even jump over #4 Georgia, who's killing Hawaii right now.
Guess it just goes along with the "what have you done for me lately?" ideology.

In 6 days after the excitement of USC's big win dies down and people get a look at OSU/LSU, hopefully the general population returns to their senses.
 
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I only watched until the worm turned for good in the early third quarter...so, this comment is made in that vein.

I think that this Rose Bowl was not the beginning but the end of the Illinois dynasty. What Zook showed us is that, when he is not sneaking up on a team as a 21-point underdog, he is clueless. The entire first half, bar the last drive, was among the least imaginative and foolishly called offensive displays I have seen in a long time.

From the time that his team took the field, wide-eyed and breathing from their mouths with stress, Illinois was overwhelmed by playing USC at home. Juice Williams didn't run from the option. Mendenhall cracked a few good runs but got flattened by too-predictable playcalling. They didn't throw the ball downfield at all. Geez, the offense was so predictable that USC's safeties were playing run every play.

Now, I am not someone who thinks that coaching a game of football is an easy thing. And I am not fond of criticizing playcalling or coaching miscues. All coaches can have a bad day at the office. But I saw some qualities that made Charlie Weis what he is, when the halftime interview was conducted.

It wasn't his playcalling. It wasn't that he didn't have that team emotionally ready to take the field. According to him, the lopsided scores was entirely the fault of the players "on both sides of the ball" not playing to their potential.

Yep, we heard you Charlie. So did your team. So did future recruits. And we all saw the fruits of your preparation. The rot has begun to set in already. Whoever said that Zook couldn't coach the big games?
 
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