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The score was a sum total of many dynamics. Wisconsin a very physical and talented team who is playing for a BCS spot. Indiana a team that has shown high spots this year but is not nearly as physical and is playing for their version of pride and a good season. Yes Wisconsin ran it up, but as a coach can you tell your kids, even two's and three's not to play hard? That makes the coach a hypocrite and the whole system in question. Yes, the BCS style points came into play, yes the play calling was meant to score more and the defense was meant to stop them. But is it not Indiana's job to play the same way no matter what the score. I tell my players to play each play like their bottom is on fire regardless of the score. If we are up by 50 or down by 50 you must never surrender. That is the ultimate defeat.

You do not kneel down on the ball near the goal line. I did that once in my 33 years of coaching and I regretted that since the day it happened. I cheated the subbies of a chance to shine. I was the quitter...not them...never again!
 
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So what are the coaches supposed to do? Take a couple guys off the field during a punt return to ensure the other team can tackle the returner deep in their own territory? I am sure that would work. :biggrin:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JspshPna-bs"]YouTube - David Boston's punt return TD (w/ only 7 blockers) - Pitt 1996[/ame]

Seriously though, if the losing team just gives up and the 3rd/4th teams of the winning team is ramming it down their throat, what is a coach to do?
 
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jlb1705;1813973; said:
I don't know. What does the card say?

When up 62, Bielema should have gone for two on the last TD.

When Philip Welch kicked his 11th XP, he knocked Vic Janowicz out of the Big Ten record book for the mark of most XPs in a single game (10 in the 83-20 win over Iowa in 1950).
 
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Meh. I expect this kind of mamby-pamby shit from the NYT. One of the biggest built in problems with trying to not run up the score is that running teams basically can't stop unless they take a knee. I remember s game in the early 90's when Penn State was playing what would eventually become Ohio's only BCS team. They had their walk-ons playing and they were still scoring by running up the middle. End result: 81-0. Thing is if a team can't tackle a 5th string RB, then why are they playing football? I hate that fucker at Wisconsin as much or more than most, but even Bill Lynch, who is so high strung that his head would explode in a fiery inferno and he would become an axe-wielding maniac if someone put the wrong dressing on his salad, didn't seem to bothered at all by the Wisconsin coach after the game. There's running up the score by throwing deep on 2nd and 2 when up 50 in the 3rd quarter with the starters in like Andre Ware used to do, and then there's scoring a lot of points with running the ball and short dumpoffs with 3rd string guys that Andre Ware publically made an ass of himself criticizing us for doing a couple of years ago. There is a big difference between those two things...anyone with a brain and even coaches with really short fuses recognize that.
 
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DaddyBigBucks;1813849; said:
IMO the Indiana players quit, mentally. They were going through the motions at best by game's end. The problem was Indiana's coaching, not Wisconsin's.

While there's truth in that we're also talking about a Wisconsin team who went for a two point conversion with a 25 point lead and less than 7 minutes to play versus Minnesota.
 
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If Delany is going to get involved he should have a come to Jesus meeting with the Indiana AD and tell him to put a competitive team on the field.

Is BB a dick? Yes.

Will he run it up if he can? Yes.

It's football. Stop him.
 
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I'd recommend to everyone who is whining about Wisconsin's scoring to look at a few college football scores ca. 1910. Teams often exceeded 100 points, playing against competition that included YMCAs, high school teams and schools of podiatry. The New York Times article draws an absurd conclusion that this is somehow a new phenomenon.

Grow some, people. If you want to slurp from the money trough that is college football, realize that some of the other hogs are both big and mean, with sharp teeth and strong jaws.
 
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buxfan4life;1813877; said:
So what are the coaches supposed to do? Take a couple guys off the field during a punt return to ensure the other team can tackle the returner deep in their own territory? I am sure that would work. :biggrin:

YouTube - David Boston's punt return TD (w/ only 7 blockers) - Pitt 1996

Seriously though, if the losing team just gives up and the 3rd/4th teams of the winning team is ramming it down their throat, what is a coach to do?

I was at that game.

Pitt was unbelievably bad, and I wasn't too far removed from my divorce at the time. My ex was a Pitt grad, so I took a little extra joy in that beat down. :biggrin:
 
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