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It's , of course, way more complicated than that. And better discussed in the Poli. :tongue2:
But, the bottom line is we have the right guy for the job! The economic news confirms that. We did not go over the cliff!
 
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Taosman;1460540; said:
It's , of course, way more complicated than that. And better discussed in the Poli. :tongue2:
But, the bottom line is we have the right guy for the job! The economic news confirms that. We did not go over the cliff!
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Gee, Jake! Most of the people on the planet think we have leadership now.
You come across as another sore Elephant loser. Isn't that just what it is?
Your guy didn't win and your pissed. :tibor:
 
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Taosman;1460806; said:
Gee, Jake! Most of the people on the planet think we have leadership now.
You come across as another sore Elephant loser. Isn't that just what it is?
Your guy didn't win and your pissed. :tibor:
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Wow. No wonder this country is in trouble. People like you who blindly follow a biased media agenda and believe everything they hear spewed from their pie-holes.

The office of the president has really nothing to do with the economy, as all the position allows is to either agree with what congress puts in front of them, or veto it (which congress can override if they so wish). We could have had monkeys in that position (and if you want my honest opinion, that is what we have had for the longest time in the white house) and the results would be the same.

Congress is where the true "power" lies with this government. You want change? Vote out every single incumbent from both the house and senate over the next few elections and get some fresh ideas into DC. Until this happens, no matter who is in the oval office, our country will be run further and further into the ground.
 
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buxfan4life;1460814; said:
Wow. No wonder this country is in trouble. People like you who blindly follow a biased media agenda and believe everything they hear spewed from their pie-holes.

The office of the president has really nothing to do with the economy, as all the position allows is to either agree with what congress puts in front of them, or veto it (which congress can override if they so wish). We could have had monkeys in that position (and if you want my honest opinion, that is what we have had for the longest time in the white house) and the results would be the same.

Congress is where the true "power" lies with this government. You want change? Vote out every single incumbent from both the house and senate over the next few elections and get some fresh ideas into DC. Until this happens, no matter who is in the oval office, our country will be run further and further into the ground.
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You spend too much time watching "fair and balanced" Faux News!

The balance of power was shifted by "W".
We're headed back toward a balance, now.

Those complaining about the current leadership "vacuum" should take a good look in the mirror. That's where it started.
Where were all the "patriots" the last 8 years?
Where was the outrage?
Where was the anger?
Forgive me if I'm more than a little skeptical, now.
 
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Taosman;1461071; said:
You spend too much time watching "fair and balanced" Faux News!

The balance of power was shifted by "W".
We're headed back toward a balance, now.

Those complaining about the current leadership "vacuum" should take a good look in the mirror. That's where it started.
Where were all the "patriots" the last 8 years?
Where was the outrage?
Where was the anger?
Forgive me if I'm more than a little skeptical, now.
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Apparently you can not read. I said that people like you who listen to the biased media are why we are in trouble.

Where in the hell did I say I listen to Fox News?!?! Why would I get my information spoon fed to me by the left or right when there is a plethora of info without the bias out there on the net. You just have to take your time to look for it and make your own judgments, which people like you apparently can not do.

Also, if you actually READ my post rather than infer that I am a right wing nut job, you would see that I do not like what is going on in government, on either side of the court. To me, they are all fucking idiots, whether they are a fat ass elephant or a complete jackass.

Shift of power?!?!? Are you fucking kidding me?!?!? The same people have had this so called power for the last 20 years! It is called congress and those who were running things behind the scenes are still doing so today. It doesn't matter whether the congress is held by either party, they are the ones that got us into this mess (ALL of them, not just one side), and have done absolutely nothing reasonable to stabilize the economy. And don't give me the bullshit about what they have done to "prop up" the banking industry and auto makers as that is nothing more than a huge step toward socialization, which is not what this country needs. What it needs is a smaller government and larger accountability on the people.

The 2 party system is not what America needs right now. What we need is fresh ideas in DC, and Obama ain't it!! Anyone who promises the world to get what they want (elected to office) better be able to back it up, and this guy has done the opposite. Don't believe me? Ask the far left, they are pissed that "their guy" is now reneging on many campaign promises. Don't believe me? Then do some of your own research and you will find there is a lot that the main stream media conveniently does not report about what is going on.

Call me what you want, I really don't give two shits what you think about me, honestly, since you are obviously the one being swayed by CNN, MSNBC, and all of the other left wing media outlets (pretty obvious since you seem to spew exactly what those morons do).

There is no point in arguing with you. I have seen in your posts that you stick to your guns, and there is nothing wrong with that. But, you better quit labeling people before you even know what they really think.

With that, I am done. You will not sway me from my perch in the middle over to the left with you, so save your keystrokes for others.
 
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Taosman;1461071; said:
You spend too much time watching "fair and balanced" Faux News!

The balance of power was shifted by "W".
We're headed back toward a balance, now.

Those complaining about the current leadership "vacuum" should take a good look in the mirror. That's where it started.
Where were all the "patriots" the last 8 years?
Where was the outrage?
Where was the anger?
Forgive me if I'm more than a little skeptical, now.
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Not exactly sure where 60 Senators and the President (and soon more Supreme Court Justices) is "balance" in any way, shape, or form. I don't know where you've been the past, oh 16 years or so, but we've actually gone from Clinton with a Dem majority in both houses being the political Messiah everyone was looking for, to gridlock in 1994, to Bush and a healthy majority in both Houses with 2 new SCJs in the 2000-2004 area, to now being all Dems, all day, with yet another political Messiah as President, and more SCJ seats opening, and an actual Supermajority in Congress.

If anything, there has been absolutely no balance for the majority of the past 2 decades, which could be where most of our problems have come from.
 
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generaladm;1461384; said:
You know, I had wondered for years how that term should be spelled, and what it was derived from. Somewhere I heard or read that it is really a shortened "renegotiate", so "renege" is the spelling I've seen. Not sure if the present participle would be "reneging" or "renegeing", but Firefox isn't underlining the former, so I'll go with that. I just realized that Firefox is smarter than me. Damn. Anyway, just a bit of useless information I thought I'd pass along.
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See, I at first spelled it reneg and I get the spell check line. When I spelled it the way I did, there was no line.

I will have to say that reneging is probably the right way, especially after that good explanation as to why, so I will edit my original post.

Thanks!!
 
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jimotis4heisman;1461487; said:
youre missing the boat. this thread isnt intended and shouldnt be about one person or a small group of person(s). if you want poli specific talk/dubya bashing head elsewhere. this thread is about society as a whole here in america and the void left at the leadership (and followship) levels. this thread isnt about "patriots" "outrage" or "anger" this thread is about doing the right thing, being ethical, going above and beyond the call of duty. not only politically (whatever youre beliefs maybe-within reason) or socially or econ or religiously or any other grouping or areas. this thread should be targeted about fostering, mentoring and developoing a sense of essentially doing the right things at the basic level. if you degenerate to the level of placing blame on one person, one party, one business, one industry, one religion you tend to miss the diversity, commonalities that make this the country i love.
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Yet, you waited till now to start this thread?

Where was your "love of country" the past 8 years?
I'm calling bullshit!
 
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Bucklion;1461362; said:
Not exactly sure where 60 Senators and the President (and soon more Supreme Court Justices) is "balance" in any way, shape, or form. I don't know where you've been the past, oh 16 years or so, but we've actually gone from Clinton with a Dem majority in both houses being the political Messiah everyone was looking for, to gridlock in 1994, to Bush and a healthy majority in both Houses with 2 new SCJs in the 2000-2004 area, to now being all Dems, all day, with yet another political Messiah as President, and more SCJ seats opening, and an actual Supermajority in Congress.

If anything, there has been absolutely no balance for the majority of the past 2 decades, which could be where most of our problems have come from.
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Well. I did say we were headed toward a balance. :tongue2:

I just love how the other side likes to call this President a "Messiah" when that's what they thought they were buying with "W". That was political naivete.

What has happened to the great Elephant party?
What happened to their great values?
Who are these extremists in charge?
And why don't they want our President's programs to succeed?
Who do they represent? Not average Americans apparently.
 
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Taosman;1461587; said:
Well. I did say we were headed toward a balance. :tongue2:

I just love how the other side likes to call this President a "Messiah" when that's what they thought they were buying with "W". That was political naivete.

What has happened to the great Elephant party?
What happened to their great values?
Who are these extremists in charge?
And why don't they want our President's programs to succeed?
Who do they represent? Not average Americans apparently.
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This president has chosen to abandon the constitution and the rule of law because he comes from the most politically corrupt political system in the USA....Chicago. He has the intimidator on his side (Emanuel) and a clear mandate from ACORN to bring change.

I was in favor of bringing some change to America...heck, we needed some change. But the change he is bringing will be very painful for many. But for BO to say that those of us who work hard, sacrifice, and save money for a better future for our children are selfish is going way too far.

BO is a modern day robin hood. But please don't try to tell me that the world views BO as some sort of miracle leader. I spend about 1/4 of my time in Europe on business and he is viewed by business leaders as an anti-capitalist that is bent on bringing the USA's wealth down to the level that requires its citizens to depend upon first the USA government and then a world government.

CBS, NBC, and ABC are not going to show you or tell you the truth because they were part of the fraud of getting him elected. I watched ABC's interview of Warren Buffet last night...and guess what ? They only played the part where he agreed with BO. They didn't air the part where he said BO's policies of intimidation of secured debt holders and the attempt to break the law and circumvent the law were utterly illegal and disastrous. Fox News at least tries to balance some of the coverage...but not all. CBS/NBC/ABC deliberately try to hide any negativity toward BO.

The UAW is getting paid off rather handsomely for supporting BO by not having to give any significant concessions in the writedown of Chrysler. UAW President Gettelfinger is certainly better than some of his predecessors...but Rick Waggoner of GM was also better. But it didn't matter...BO has cleaned house of management yet not touched the UAW.

The UAW is a big reason why the Big3 have struggled. Not the only reason...and probably not the biggest reason, but clearly a big contributor. Yet BO won't touch his political supporters.

I was very happy when Palin was selected as VP mate by McCain. I thought she would bring some true conservativsm to the job....and still think that. But had McCain selected Romney then I think he would have won the election because just a few weeks after the Palin selection the markets collapsed. Of course McCain wasn't "change". I never like McCain much. But at least Romney would have fought to preserve some semblance of capitalism. What we have now is going to bring down the wealth and leadership of the USA. Just watch.
 
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