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Revenge and Hanoi Jane

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Bucky Katt said:
Since when did the soldiers get to make decisions regarding whether or not we go to war? Regardless of whether or not the US should have been involved, the soldiers over there should not have to deal with people like Jane Fonda selling them out.

This isn't about Veitnam and whether or not the soldiers should have been over there, it's about a person who got a very small portion of what she deserved. If it happens to her again... great!

Tons of rep to Buckweiser if he follows through on his threat!
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How did Jane Fonda sell them out?
 
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tibor75 said:
How did Jane Fonda sell them out?
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I personally think that the way we fought the Vietnam War was a mistake. Many people died for nothing. However, what Jane did was wrong. If she wanted to protest the war here, fine, she had plenty of company. To do it on enemy soil was inexcusable, in my opinion.
 
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As a Vietnam vet, class of 68 - 69, 1st Infantry Division, Lai Khe, as a vet who was spit on and called "Nazi" by my peers, I have no use for Jane, but having been spit on I can say that I don't want to stoop to that level of behavior.
 
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cincibuck said:
As a Vietnam vet, class of 68 - 69, 1st Infantry Division, Lai Khe, as a vet who was spit on and called "Nazi" by my peers, I have no use for Jane, but having been spit on I can say that I don't want to stoop to that level of behavior.
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Very well put. I don't think any of us, even those of us with a military background, can quite understand how you feel. Thank you for your service to our country.
 
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She visited POW camps and came back and reported that the treatment of soldiers in these camps was "humane." Go find a POW from Vietnam and ask him about his treatment. I suspect you may get a different story.

By the way, I don't find arguing over semantics to be a particularly invigorating discussion. If you disagree with me (and obviously several others), explain why, rather than merely questioning the way something is phrased.
 
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She's a joke. I know that there wasn't a huge number of people of who were totally in favor of that war, and I'm sure there were soldiers who felt the same way. Unfortunately those soldiers still have to carry out their duties, and to have someone like Fonda insult them personally instead of the people who put them there, is a total sack of shit.
 
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I certainly am not defending Fonda, but this ass bag in KC isn't some kind of a fucking hero for spitting on her. Don't you think he's a little late to that particular party? Even assuming that doing that was appropriate at some point, doing it thirty plus years later just makes him a pathetic cunt rag. Yes, I know that it was probably his first chance to do it in thirty years, but, Christ, dude, get a life. How could you respect anyone who could hang on to that kind of bullshit insult for that long? Fuck her and fuck him.
 
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RugbyBuck said:
I certainly am not defending Fonda, but this ass bag in KC isn't some kind of a fucking hero for spitting on her. Don't you think he's a little late to that particular party? Even assuming that doing that was appropriate at some point, doing it thirty plus years later just makes him a pathetic cunt rag. Yes, I know that it was probably his first chance to do it in thirty years, but, Christ, dude, get a life. How could you respect anyone who could hang on to that kind of bullshit insult for that long? Fuck her and fuck him.
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Unless you are a Vietnam War Veteran, I don't understand how you can be so critical of his actions. If you want to disagree with his actions, fine; but how can you slam him for not being able to let go of his hatred. Yes, all of us should try to forgive others; but having not been in Vietnam as a soldier, I would never assume how easy or difficult it would be to forgive someone like Fonda after what she did.
 
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buckeyegrad said:
Unless you are a Vietnam War Veteran, I don't understand how you can be so critical of his actions. If you want to disagree with his actions, fine; but how can you slam him for not being able to let go of his hatred. Yes, all of us should try to forgive others; but having not been in Vietnam as a soldier, I would never assume how easy or difficult it would be to forgive someone like Fonda after what she did.
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I would expect that someone who sacrificed himself and actually fought over there to have bigger issues to care about and deal with than whatever Jane Fonda did thirty years earlier. I would hope that someone like that would have more self respect than this guy has displayed. I don't think that I have suggested that anyone should "forgive" anything. I just think that a bonehead publicity stunt like this one thirty years on does nothing but cheapen the whole issue. I don't think that I have to be a Vietnam vet in order to think that.
 
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You've got to realize why he spit on her. He knew he wouldn't be able to piss or shit on her.

I wasn't there, but being spit on is a simple thing compared to spending 12-14 months 'in country' during the Viet Nam war.

She was wrong 30-35 years ago, but it sounds like she handled what happened to her in KC very well.

For the rest of her book tour, though, she better have a glass guard like salad bars.
 
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Tibor, when I read your asinine posts I just consider the source of them and move on because you are hopelessly ignorant with your little fiddle playing smilies and such. But in this case I have to tell you asshole, unless you are a Viet Nam veteran such as me, Mili and a few others here, you need to shut the fuck up and keep your dumbass comments to yourself. If you didn't serve in the military during that time then you have absolutely no reason to chime in with your silly ass rhetoric. Now go ahead and put your silly smiliey up and get it over with. Dumbass/
 
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If people in government had the courage of Jane Fonda in the 1960s, thousands and thousands of innocent Vietnamese and Camebodians would be alive today. And thousands of American soldiers too.

It is funny how people blame Jane Fonda for the deaths of soldiers, but give a free pass to government officials who are responsible. The fact that a complete scumbag like Kissinger is on the lecture circuit is appalling.
 
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