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JonathanXC said:
Plus the Reds seem to love to win it all around all the wars.

1919 WWI
1940 WWII
1975-1976 Vietnam
1990 Persian Gulf
2005 Iraq???
I guess the Reds didn't recognize the Korean War as a true war. The front office must have declared it a police action.

Sorry for the sarcasm, but I find the correlation a little humorous. Anyway, go Reds!
 
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Reds are reminiscent of the 2000 team at the moment. You can definitely tell they are maybe one dominant starter away. Every day we get the other teams ace or number two it seems and we start out in the hole. You've got to give this team credit though they are finding ways to pull games out in the late innings. It is only a matter of time before Graves gets passed by Ryan Wagner as the closer. Danny is a town favorite and a decent pitcher but just does not guarantee a win in the 9th...the guy scares the shit out of me every game!


All in all the team is two games over .500 tonight after another comeback win against the Cubs and Kerry Wood. That puts us two up on Chicago and I haven't seen the Cards result tonight so we're at least within 1/2 game. I think the Reds legitimately have a chance to go 85-75 this season barring major injury problems. We aren't getting a lot of quality starts from the pitching so as long as some young guys can continue to step in and produce we may have a shot.
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
I think the Reds legitimately have a chance to go 85-75 this season barring major injury problems.
Did they cut the season by 2 games? Just kidding Bestbuck. I agree, they have a good chance at 85 wins. I'm just glad to see them spend some money. If they keep the payroll where it is at now they will have a few good teams every 10 years. Not bad for a small market team. I actually hope baseball follows hockey and locks out until a salary cap is reached. It would make baseball so much better.
 
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Baseball -- one week your up next week your down, week after that your down further.

When's the up-tick coming for these Reds?

Currently looking at 10-16, only thing separating us from dead last being one game up on the Pirates. That could change tonight vs those Cards.

Mulder (3-1 w/a 3.5 ERA vs Claussen -- 1-2 though with a 2.51 ERA).

Here's hoping.

Or it may become brutal, I'm telling you, brutal.
 
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It'll definitely be brutal if something doesn't turn around bigtime with the pitching. Only a handful of guys have even pitched worth a damn for any considerable stretch this season and several of them have just been downright putrid (I'm looking at you, Danny Graves - WHIP 2.25.)

This brings me to my rant about Danny Graves. He's the closer, and he has a WHIP of 2.25. That means that even in the most favorable save situation, (9th inning, 3-run lead .) he brings the tying run to the plate. And if it's only a 1 or 2-run lead, he brings the winning (or should I say losing) run to the plate. No pitcher can get by on a 2.25 WHIP, and closers DEFINITELY can't - especially closers who have somehow built a career on getting people out with belt-high sinkers through the center of the plate.
 
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And we do so trust that Carl is making all the right moves. However, one rant on top another won't help matters. It seems like now we are seeing all the bad habits come to the fore at once. Swing for The Fences, no interest in creating runs. Defence? A forgotten commodity.
And then back to pitching .. (!?!) is it really going to to be this painful --- again??
 
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You bet your ass it is. At this point, I don't know why I continue to watch/listen. This team drives me nuts. They don't do any of the little things that teams do to win games. There is no clutch hitting. Adam Dunn hasn't gotten a sac fly since his days in the pony leagues. Griffey, Dunn, Kearns, and Larue have 23, 26, 28, and 29 k's, respectively. And then there is our friend Danny Graves. If you keep hanging breaking balls to guys like Jim Edmonds (and John F-ing Mabry), they are going to continue to knock the ball all over the place. I find it hard to believe that Weber and Weathers are an upgrade on any of our middle relievers last year. Valentine has been awful. When Wagner is going good, he's unhittable, but when he stinks, he's terrible. Back to the hitters. D'angelo Jimenez pops up more than a hitting coach with a fungo bat. Sean Casey might be the slowest man ever, but at least he gets a base hit. I'm going to leave the starting pitching alone for now, but they sure aren't anything to write home about, either.
 
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You bet your ass it is. At this point, I don't know why I continue to watch/listen. This team drives me nuts. They don't do any of the little things that teams do to win games. There is no clutch hitting. Adam Dunn hasn't gotten a sac fly since his days in the pony leagues. Griffey, Dunn, Kearns, and Larue have 23, 26, 28, and 29 k's, respectively. And then there is our friend Danny Graves. If you keep hanging breaking balls to guys like Jim Edmonds (and John F-ing Mabry), they are going to continue to knock the ball all over the place. I find it hard to believe that Weber and Weathers are an upgrade on any of our middle relievers last year. Valentine has been awful. When Wagner is going good, he's unhittable, but when he stinks, he's terrible. Back to the hitters. D'angelo Jimenez pops up more than a hitting coach with a fungo bat. Sean Casey might be the slowest man ever, but at least he gets a base hit. I'm going to leave the starting pitching alone for now, but they sure aren't anything to write home about, either.
As funny as that statement is, sadly all of it is true.
 
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Katt those little things are becoming big things. Right now the Reds are the worst fundamental team in baseball. Who can you blame for that? Its not one area its the whole damn team! They can't pitch. They aren't aggressive hitters at the plate. They are aggressive swingers, but not hitters. Hopefully Hudson and Hancock make it back soon and we aren't 10 games out by then. Jimenez is terrible and Graves is the biggest liability in the league. I'm with you guys and I could rant all day but it doesn't appear there are any changes on the horizon. That little ditty is the biggest unbelievable issue of them all.
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
Katt those little things are becoming big things. Right now the Reds are the worst fundamental team in baseball. Who can you blame for that? Its not one area its the whole damn team! They can't pitch. They aren't aggressive hitters at the plate. They are aggressive swingers, but not hitters. Hopefully Hudson and Hancock make it back soon and we aren't 10 games out by then. Jimenez is terrible and Graves is the biggest liability in the league. I'm with you guys and I could rant all day but it doesn't appear there are any changes on the horizon. That little ditty is the biggest unbelievable issue of them all.
Exactly. I think it was in the 2003 season that Wily Mo Pena was asked to lay down a sacrifice bunt late in a game. He failed miserably. After the game he said that he didn't know how to bunt and that nobody had ever taught him. That's the kind of shit that just sends me up the wall. Somebody should have lost their job over that.
 
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