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jwinslow;1465590; said:
They have offered about 100 defensive players, regardless of what scout's database says. They are approaching 200.
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It's very clever actually. He just wants to have a better W-L percentage that recruiting-closing percentage, and he needs to offer 100+ guys to accomplish that.
 
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OregonBuckeye;1471811; said:
Yeah, I'm not saying they're the same. I remember Schoenhoft had great physical ability and came from a great high school program but his stats were very mediocre. Andrew is also capable physically and comes from a good program but his stats are mediocre(from what I've read. Haven't seen them). That's where my concern is. If you can't put up good stats in high school, how are you going to in D-1A? There are other factors like a poor supporting cast so that's why I'm asking if I'm off base. I'd appreciate someone's opinion who's followed him closely.
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Robbie had no wide receivers to throw the ball to his senior year.
 
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Honor&Glory;1472116; said:
There is absolutely no comparrison between the two. Shoenhoft could throw a football through a block of ice...but that was his only skill. his career high school completion percentage was abysmal, his TD to INT ratio was not impressive at all and there were some in the X program who weren't convinced that he ever grasped the offense...at the HIGH SCHOOL level.
I've heard NONE of these things regarding Hendrix and having seen Colerain play against both, Hendrix scares me more than Robbie ever did. just my opinion.

I'm happy he got the OSU offer. I hope its not too late.
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Shoenhoft also had good size and athletic ability. Those were two additional skills. :)
 
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Honor&Glory;1472116; said:
There is absolutely no comparrison between the two. Shoenhoft could throw a football through a block of ice...but that was his only skill. his career high school completion percentage was abysmal, his TD to INT ratio was not impressive at all and there were some in the X program who weren't convinced that he ever grasped the offense...at the HIGH SCHOOL level.
I've heard NONE of these things regarding Hendrix and having seen Colerain play against both, Hendrix scares me more than Robbie ever did. just my opinion.

I'm happy he got the OSU offer. I hope its not too late.
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Thanks for the input.
 
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RB07OSU;1472310; said:
Agreed, two totally different players. Obviously you would know better than I, so good to hear you echo that sentiment.

On a side note, this is a really down year for QB nationally. Aside from Heaps, I don't see any stand outs. As excited as I would have been to get Montana, I don't really see much of a drop off in talent with Hendrix, only luster and better mechanics. As Buckrock said, similar QB's and I think Hendrix is complete enough to contribute early on in the case of an emergency. As union has stated, the staff needs a player with some polish who can be ready to contribute early if needed (Pryor leaves early? Does Guiton pan out? Bauserman gets hurt?). I think we are getting what we want if we can get Hendrix. Braxton Miller will be huge but he still has another year.
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Heaps does not equal standout...
 
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Honor&Glory;1472116; said:
There is absolutely no comparrison between the two. Shoenhoft could throw a football through a block of ice...but that was his only skill. his career high school completion percentage was abysmal, his TD to INT ratio was not impressive at all and there were some in the X program who weren't convinced that he ever grasped the offense...at the HIGH SCHOOL level.
I've heard NONE of these things regarding Hendrix and having seen Colerain play against both, Hendrix scares me more than Robbie ever did. just my opinion.

I'm happy he got the OSU offer. I hope its not too late.
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Numbers don't tell the whole story about Schoenhoft. He was an Elite 11 qb and did great at their combines. Robby had little supporting cast, and his throws were dropped by high school level receivers who couldn't catch his rockets.

Matt Barkley's senior year was very similar in that respect.

Anyway, I think Oaks Christian QBs are looked upon favorably due to context. Clausen was never even sniffed by a defensive lineman in high school - that makes a QB look great, but they don't learn important lessons in holding the ball too long or throwing under pressure.

So I'm not too upset at the way things have been going. The reviews from guys from Ohio have been super positive, and I trust their judgment.
 
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RB07OSU;1472792; said:
Heaps is the only QB worthy to be in the top 30-50 range nationally imo. He isn't your top 10 five star guy like Barkley, but there just aren't any QB's who fit that bill this year.
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If you want someone to compare to Schoenhoft then Heaps is probably a good one. Physical specimen with questionable game skill.
 
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Oneshot;1472796; said:
Numbers don't tell the whole story about Schoenhoft. He was an Elite 11 qb and did great at their combines. Robby had little supporting cast, and his throws were dropped by high school level receivers who couldn't catch his rockets.

Matt Barkley's senior year was very similar in that respect.
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Sorry but this is completely wrong. St X went 10-0 Robbies senior year and were the number 1 seed in the playoffs. Robbie himself lost their second round playoff game to Moeller that year with a horrendous game going 5/19 for 47 yards with 0 td's and 3 int's. Anyone who actually saw him play new he was overrated as a qb prospect.

With regards to Hendrix I feel the same could be true but I will wait until after his senior year to label him. Robbie had a mediocre senior season with a completion percentage of 48.4%. If Hendrix has similar poor numbers he could be a bust like Robbie, but if he shows improvement you can't put him in the same category as Schoenhoft.
 
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Oneshot;1472796; said:
Numbers don't tell the whole story about Schoenhoft. He was an Elite 11 qb and did great at their combines. Robby had little supporting cast, and his throws were dropped by high school level receivers who couldn't catch his rockets.

Matt Barkley's senior year was very similar in that respect.

Anyway, I think Oaks Christian QBs are looked upon favorably due to context. Clausen was never even sniffed by a defensive lineman in high school - that makes a QB look great, but they don't learn important lessons in holding the ball too long or throwing under pressure.

So I'm not too upset at the way things have been going. The reviews from guys from Ohio have been super positive, and I trust their judgment.
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Yea this is simply not true. Robbie had absolutely no accuracy. He was just as likely to throw the ball into the ground as he was to hit the receiver in the hands. Same problem he had at OSU. Saying he had no receivers in high school was a rationalization many people said to make themselves believe he'd be any better at Ohio State.
 
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