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Muck
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Yes it really is.
The kid has done a LOT of stupid, immature & selfish things...but they are all several steps removed from committing a felony, in front of witnesses, in the one city in the world (outside of Youngstown) where everybody knows his face.
If he did do it, he'll be arrested, tried & convicted. There's pretty much no doubt about that given the circumstances.
Could I see it happening because he felt desperate and didn't know what else to do? Possibly. Is it even more likely that he and some homies were chillin and thought it might be something amusing to do (no doubt with a little help from a bit of mind altering goodness)? IMO Yep.
Could I just as easily see a bar owner looking for a bit of publicity or with the misguided notion that it would be a good way to either help/hurt the University? Yep.
However, if I woke up tomorrow and the news said that Clarett had mutated into a 40 ft subhuman and was destroying downtown Columbus and eating people I have no doubt this board would be full of wise sages putting in their .02..."I'm not surprised at all"..."I could see this coming all along"...."I said from day one this kid was gonna turn into a monster!".
I just don't have the emotional investment in the entire Clarett debacle that I automatically assume every negative story about him is true because it helps salve my hurt feelings.
Is Clarrett a dipshit? Damn straight he is. I just don't feel any need to turn him into the Bogeyman to make me feel better.
The kid's probably going to be in jail tonight and we'll see how it all shakes out over the next couple of days.
PS - Personally I think it's just a set-up perpetrated by ESPN in order to divert the growing attention away from the obviously renegade program at USC and it's criminal recruiting mastermind Pappadakis.
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If this was out of character, I'd agree with you...I always pull for the underdog kids. However, most of those underdog kids LEARN from their mistakes.
I don't turn him into some "bogeyman" to make myself feel better...I've been over MoC for a while. However, if this is surprising, you have not been paying attention.
I'll agree to disagree....
I don't turn him into some "bogeyman" to make myself feel better...I've been over MoC for a while. However, if this is surprising, you have not been paying attention.
I'll agree to disagree....
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Onebuckfan
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You'd have to be a true koolaid drinking MC fan to make excuses for him now. That's been his whole problem is he has lived in a world of entitlement..he thinks everyone owes him something just because he's Mc.He thought tOSU owed him more than a scholarship, the NFL owed him a million dollar contract. Earth to Maurice .. no one owes you nothing..go out an earn a living. On the eve of the Fiesta Bowl he's in the headlines..coincidence I doubt it.I wish he'd just go away but his kind won't. I don't hate MC or wish Ill will on him, I wish everytime hs screws up I wouldn't have to see the headline former Buckeye.....etc,etc.
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Muck
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Wasn't referring to you directly on that one. But you know as well as I do that if someone posted on here that they saw Clarrett eating babies at the food court in the Polaris mall that there'd be more than enough folks who would take it as gospel.
I've followed it as closely as anyone else unfortunately...it's not like you have much of a choice considering how much airtime it's gotten over the past 3 1/2 years.
...and yes it is still a surprise. If nothing else I'd figure that Reecie was too lazy to go to the trouble of robbing someone.
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What a difference a year makes. I am not concerned in any way about how this might reflect on Ohio State. Clarett is now on his own and those who supported him stand exposed.
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Muck
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Clarett would have been a senior on this year's Ohio State team, which meets Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl on Monday.
As I said earlier...Our SENIORS deserve better!
SENIORS - DESTROY THE DOMERS!
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I doubt that the seniors, or anyone else on the team for that matter cares one way or another about his antics anymore. He's ancient history as far as the team is concerned. It's only the media and fans that care at this point.
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Nothing with him surprises me anymore...this amongst them. If he's on his way to jail, so be it...I take neither pleasure nor pain out of it. I don't revel in his pissing his life away, but I certainly don't feel sorry for him, either. Sometimes you get what you earn in life...be that good or bad.
I think some people give him too much credit for 2002, considering how much he was hurt and how much a lot of other guys contributed, but there is no doubt we needed him to go undefeated...so for that he contributed greatly to OSU and the football program. For everything else, he was also a negative influence in a lot of ways, and brought a lot of negative attention to the Univeristy as well. I used to think he would go down as the guy who had the most mixed legacy at OSU, with some loving him, some hating him, and some just shaking their head. If he goes to jail for multiple felonies, that will not be the case, I don't think.
It's between MoC, the law, his family, and God now as far as I'm concerned...he no longer affects me in any way. To say it is all a shame would be the understatement of the century, though, I think.
I think some people give him too much credit for 2002, considering how much he was hurt and how much a lot of other guys contributed, but there is no doubt we needed him to go undefeated...so for that he contributed greatly to OSU and the football program. For everything else, he was also a negative influence in a lot of ways, and brought a lot of negative attention to the Univeristy as well. I used to think he would go down as the guy who had the most mixed legacy at OSU, with some loving him, some hating him, and some just shaking their head. If he goes to jail for multiple felonies, that will not be the case, I don't think.
It's between MoC, the law, his family, and God now as far as I'm concerned...he no longer affects me in any way. To say it is all a shame would be the understatement of the century, though, I think.
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barlow1802
Troy Has Legs
I dont understand your post. You say people gave him too much credit, but then say we needed him to be 14-0. Please explain? The credit I think everyone gives him is just that. Maybe Im wrong. MoC was a man amoung boys. The amazing thing was he was hurt for all those games and still broke the frosh rushing record. I honestly believe we would be sitting number 1 and undefeated for a while now if he wouldnt of been a huge douche bag. 2 2-time heisman winners, 3 national championships, 30 game win streak.. would of, could of, should of. Clarett is obviously a troubled kid, and its too bad he shit away his life.
However, I wouldnt confuse his on field success as a buckeye with his off field embarassments as a person.
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Well, not that I have to, but I will explain....I've heard people say what I said...and then I've heard people say we would have lost at least 5 games without him, I've heard people say he was the greatest RB Ohio State ever had, I've heard people say he was the only reason we ever scored any points, and then I've heard some say we didn't need him at all to win 14 games...all of which are totally incorrect, in my view. We needed him to be 14-0, and he was an important component on one side of the ball to our team...that's as far as I am willing to go. That's why I said I thought before that he would have such a mixed legacy...he is a Clinton-like polartizing figure, in the sense that some want to give him credit for everything, some want to give him credit for nothing, and some say he played his part.
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Well, a felony warrant is far more substantial than a wild rumor or a negative story.
At this point, with all of his history and baggage, Clarett is entitled to a presumption of innocence, but not a presumption of rationality.
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I'm sure all of my thoughts at this point have already been expressed by others.
This might not be the proper place for the discussion, but.. I just don't understand it. MoC out of shape or not is still a big guy. He doesn't need a gun to rob someone if he feels so desperate to do so. Why bring a gun into the mess, that makes the 'risk' far greater.
I'm convinced there is more to this story then we are hearing... if he is innocent I hope he gets a fair trial. Otherwise... may he do the time he created.
This might not be the proper place for the discussion, but.. I just don't understand it. MoC out of shape or not is still a big guy. He doesn't need a gun to rob someone if he feels so desperate to do so. Why bring a gun into the mess, that makes the 'risk' far greater.
I'm convinced there is more to this story then we are hearing... if he is innocent I hope he gets a fair trial. Otherwise... may he do the time he created.
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