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RB Keith Byars (B10 POY, All-American, OSU HOF, CFB HOF, NFL Pro Bowl)

In spring 1985, coming off a season in which he finished second in the Heisman Trophy voting, former Ohio State running back Keith Byars was eating at the fast-food restaurant when an agent approached him.

The proposal was unscrupulous, but simple: Accept this cash - "very good money," as Byars described it - and sign a postdated contract with our agency to represent you once you turn pro. Byars, a top-ten NFL draft pick a year later, declined the offer, but said some players succumb when facing an abundance of temptation.

"You always have those shady types around," said Byars, now 46 and coaching Boca Raton High. "No major program is exempt from it.

"They find ways of finding you. Next thing you know, somebody sidles up next to you. They follow you."

His teammate, wide receiver Cris Carter, did not maintain the same standards as Byars and was ruled ineligible for his senior season after taking money from an agent beginning in 1986.

Florida coach Urban Meyer and his peers say it's hard to tackle the issue of unscrupulous agents
 
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Taosman;1566027; said:
Wonderful, marvelous player! Saw most of his games. Believe me when I say that Beanie, when healthy, did more with less blocking!

it's a tough call either way......I can see your logic in this statement. However, I think defenses were more geared to stop the run back in the mid '80s.....much more, in fact.

I"d say that Beanie had a bit better acceleration than Byars....which is critical. But I think Byars was at least as fast as Beanie at the top end. Let's call the speed category about even.

Byars was a better receiver and blocker than Beanie.

They were both very good at breaking tackles.

I'd call it about even on these two.......which is amazing since they played 25 years apart.
 
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Byars said he wouldn?t blame any of today?s senior stars for taking their time with recruiting.

A running back/linebacker at Roth High School in Dayton, Ohio, Byars gave no hints before committing Ohio State, five days before Signing Day 1982.

?If I said, ?I?m going to Ohio State,? Pittsburgh, Cincy, they don?t want me to go visit them. And you?ve only got one time in your life to be wined and dined,? he said.

??How big a steak you want? How big a steak you got?? That was a different time. I had to take advantage of that, so I wasn?t going to commit. I haven?t had my butt kissed like that since.

?I?m not saying there?s anything wrong with early commits, that?s fine. But dude, take your visits.

?Shoot, I was trying to go to Hawaii on one of my visits. I ain?t ever been to Hawaii!?

For now, Boca Raton offense will miss running back Keith Byars II | High School Buzz
 
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I don't really agree with this...

Like many of us, I looked for jobs after undergrad. I had done well in school, and I was pretty lucky to get to fly out to several places for interviews. Cool cities, too.

But once I had secured offers from some of my most desired companies, I immediately turned around and informed the other companies that I would no longer need their flights/hotel rooms/meals.

It's the decent thing to do - They're happy to court you IF you can be wood. Otherwise, you're just wasting their resources and, more importantly, their time. I don't agree with slamming down steaks in exchange for faking smiles all day.
 
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Oneshot;1749825; said:
I don't really agree with this...

Like many of us, I looked for jobs after undergrad. I had done well in school, and I was pretty lucky to get to fly out to several places for interviews. Cool cities, too.

But once I had secured offers from some of my most desired companies, I immediately turned around and informed the other companies that I would no longer need their flights/hotel rooms/meals.

It's the decent thing to do - They're happy to court you IF you can be wood. Otherwise, you're just wasting their resources and, more importantly, their time. I don't agree with slamming down steaks in exchange for faking smiles all day.

That's your prerogative. It's not solely a winning situation for the players. The ones who entertain them also get the benefit of the experience.
 
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Yes but you have to realize a lot of these athletes don't come from backgrounds/families where they can afford to be wined/dined like these colleges can. Also, I wouldn't feel bad as a recruit considering how much money the university makes off the players in the long run (though im not saying players should be paid...don't get it twisted!)
 
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Oneshot;1749825; said:
I don't really agree with this...

Like many of us, I looked for jobs after undergrad. I had done well in school, and I was pretty lucky to get to fly out to several places for interviews. Cool cities, too.

But once I had secured offers from some of my most desired companies, I immediately turned around and informed the other companies that I would no longer need their flights/hotel rooms/meals.

It's the decent thing to do - They're happy to court you IF you can be wood. Otherwise, you're just wasting their resources and, more importantly, their time. I don't agree with slamming down steaks in exchange for faking smiles all day.

Were you doing interviews for pornos? It was decent of you to inform them of your choice even though you didn't suffer from erectile disfunction.
 
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Oneshot;1749825; said:
They're happy to court you IF you can be wood.

BB73;1750245; said:
Were you doing interviews for pornos? It was decent of you to inform them of your choice even though you didn't suffer from erectile disfunction.

Leave it to BB73 to go against the grain and branch out from the topic. One would think a mod's job is to root out this kind of nonsense and bark at the offenders. I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that BB73 couldn't see the forest for the trees in this instance.
 
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FCollinsBuckeye;1750246; said:
Leave it to BB73 to go against the grain and branch out from the topic. One would think a mod's job is to root out this kind of nonsense and bark at the offenders. I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that BB73 couldn't see the forest for the trees in this instance.

Leaf me alone, it's knot your job to be a pine in my ass; I'm just lumbering along, and I wood do it again if I'maple.
 
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BB73;1750252; said:
Leaf me alone, it's knot your job to be a pine in my ass; I'm just lumbering along, and I wood do it again if I'maple.
:bow:
Ironwood have to have balsa of petrified forests and an ash of steel to evergreen of out doing BB73
 
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Oneshot;1749825; said:
I don't really agree with this...

Like many of us, I looked for jobs after undergrad. I had done well in school, and I was pretty lucky to get to fly out to several places for interviews. Cool cities, too.

But once I had secured offers from some of my most desired companies, I immediately turned around and informed the other companies that I would no longer need their flights/hotel rooms/meals.

It's the decent thing to do - They're happy to court you IF you can be wood. Otherwise, you're just wasting their resources and, more importantly, their time. I don't agree with slamming down steaks in exchange for faking smiles all day.


Not really a perfect translation. In the business world you have to make sure you don't burn bridges, in recruiting its a one time shot. OSU can't get you back later for screwing them if you go to Texas or what have you. You might run into a wall after 4-5 years at IBM and have to look around again.

On top of that what about all these schools that allow over signing? If they can pull offers at any time then kids should take all 5 visits with an open mind no matter what.

Then again, I am biased. As a parent I am always going to come down on the side of erring to the kids favor. I feel that if grown ass men can actively lie, cheat, steal or try to otherwise influence 17-18 year old kids then those kids and their parents need to do whats best for them no matter what. Fuck the schools, they can always land another stud HS football player, the kid gets one shot at it and it will affect him for the rest of his life.

I know that doesn't apply to all situations but there are a hell of a lot more SEC coaches out there than there are Tressels.
 
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