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RB J.K. "All Day" Dobbins (2017 B1G CG MVP, 2019 1st Team All-American, Los Angeles Chargers)

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Buckeye86 said:
In their defense, the play calling was just fine through the first half of the game, give or take.

Barrett threw his second INT in the two minute drill and they tightened up to start the second half and proceeded to put together three straight three-and-outs.
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I hated Barrett's first INT because that play is all risk, no reward. Best case scenario, you gain 5 yards. Worst case....well, we saw that--pick six that ignites the crowd. BTW--that same play (Barrett throwing an INT on a 5 yard pass) is the same INT that broke our backs against Oklahoma.
 
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BUCK3YE5 said:


...Maybe we should actually use this guy?
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A weakness of the read option based run attack is that defenses can take the ball out of your best RBs hands through schemes.

They give the QB the “keep” read, and then whoops! Our best player doesn’t get the ball.

I’d really like it if we just ran the ball with our superior players and took the read variable out of it- because the wrong read also has the chance to mess up drives.

Out of all the criticism of Meyer, I tend to think his most glaring weakness is insisting that some of his offensive schemes continue to be incorporated into the offense- even though they are arguably out of date.

He might benefit from bringing in an offensive mind and letting them do their thing without interfering.
 
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With Braxton, he was always a threat for an explosive play if he read keep. That really opened up the inside for Hyde and co. Barrett can grind out yards, but above average defenses have limited those carries to where we get stuck in too many 3rd and longs. Cardale kinda sucked at the zone read, but at least the safeties were 30 yards off instead of crashing down hard on the backside or receiver screens.
 
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woofermazing said:
With Braxton, he was always a threat for an explosive play if he read keep. That really opened up the inside for Hyde and co. Barrett can grind out yards, but above average defenses have limited those carries to where we get stuck in too many 3rd and longs. Cardale kinda sucked at the zone read, but at least the safeties were 30 yards off instead of crashing down hard on the backside or receiver screens.
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Braxton making the correct read was a huge if. He (and Denard) were both incredible runners with surprisingly mediocre operation of the option and even scrambling (not the athleticism involved but the feel in the pocket). Barrett is an extremely average athlete without the explosion or arm talent of Braxton, but his phenomenal read option skills make things tougher on a defense when he's throwing adequately.

Cardale had a flamethrower of an arm and NFL talent for days. People lose sight of how many third and longs Cardale put them in during the Sugar Bowl because of his magnificent scrambles and clutch throws. Many teams do not start MLBs as overrated as Trey DePriest so he stopped getting himself out of bad situations (and was also not helped by a dreadful scheme).
 
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Buckeye86 said:
A weakness of the read option based run attack is that defenses can take the ball out of your best RBs hands through schemes.

They give the QB the “keep” read, and then whoops! Our best player doesn’t get the ball.

I’d really like it if we just ran the ball with our superior players and took the read variable out of it- because the wrong read also has the chance to mess up drives.

Out of all the criticism of Meyer, I tend to think his most glaring weakness is insisting that some of his offensive schemes continue to be incorporated into the offense- even though they are arguably out of date.

He might benefit from bringing in an offensive mind and letting them do their thing without interfering.
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This pretty much nails it--teams will continue to force JT to lead the team in carries....at least so long as we continue to run the read option.
 
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Buckeye86 said:
A weakness of the read option based run attack is that defenses can take the ball out of your best RBs hands through schemes.

They give the QB the “keep” read, and then whoops! Our best player doesn’t get the ball.

I’d really like it if we just ran the ball with our superior players and took the read variable out of it- because the wrong read also has the chance to mess up drives.

Out of all the criticism of Meyer, I tend to think his most glaring weakness is insisting that some of his offensive schemes continue to be incorporated into the offense- even though they are arguably out of date.

He might benefit from bringing in an offensive mind and letting them do their thing without interfering.
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I totally understand where you are coming from, but the entire reason we have to use the option is because there is 1 too many guys to block, so just going straight run you end up with a numbers disadvantage so it isn't as easy at it sounds.
 
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Hstead said:
I totally understand where you are coming from, but the entire reason we have to use the option is because there is 1 too many guys to block, so just going straight run you end up with a numbers disadvantage so it isn't as easy at it sounds.
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85 Yards Through the Heart of the South wasn't a read option. Power O has all but disappeared. The counter has all but disappeared. There are plenty of ways to get the running back the ball without running zone read every freaking time, ESPECIALLY when teams know it's coming and force JT to keep every time.
 
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That's what drives me crazy LV...There's so many ways to run the ball with counter, leads, draws, sweeps, pitched, options, reads, sweep, and traps. I hate the excuse that teams aligned to take away the run because that's just not possible unless they literally go 11 in the box.

I said it last week, I thought we were excited for the shiney new toy that is our passing offense and we forgot what makes us so successful. Give me a well timed passing play over an abundance of them anyday.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
85 Yards Through the Heart of the South wasn't a read option. Power O has all but disappeared. The counter has all but disappeared. There are plenty of ways to get the running back the ball without running zone read every freaking time, ESPECIALLY when teams know it's coming and force JT to keep every time.
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OSU has run a lot of designed runs this season. I'm not sure about last week, but that was part of the reason they fell behind against Indiana, because JT wasn't even a possibility on a number of those snaps.
 
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bukIpower said:
Apparently we hate having first round draft picks at RB.

6 carries? 6 God damn carries? Oh don't worry no one's listening anyways
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I don't think he had ANY in the second half.

Steve19 said:
I think that he is nursing an injury.
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but he was still out there catching passes at the very end of the game. Too late for carries at that point, but if he was hurt...
 
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