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Just because he played in a run system and had great blocking does not mean he was a great back. That fact eventually proved itself.

Funny how every other Hesiman winner that did not do squat in the NFL was over-rated, but those same rules do not apply to Archie.

A great college player yes but one of the all-time best. No
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Just because he played in a run system and had great blocking does not mean he was a great back. That fact eventually proved itself.

Funny how every other Hesiman winner that did not do squat in the NFL was over-rated, but those same rules do not apply to Archie.

A great college player yes but one of the all-time best. No
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You obviously never watched Archie Griffin play in college. Despite his size, he would bounce and spin off tacklers. In fact, during the Northwestern game last season, Tyrell Sutton spin-bounced right off a clean tackle by Ashton Youboty and the announcer said that was the closest thing he had seen to resembling Archie Griffin...although Griffin hadn't played college ball for 30 years, the announcer used him as a frame of reference for such a fine play.

The reason why Griffin didn't do as well in the pros was because the Bengals had an atrocious OL in the mid/late '70s. Give him a good, or even decent, OL to run behind in the NFL and his stats would've been much higher.

You don't think he's one of the all-time greats? Then why did he hold the NCAA record for consecutive 100-yard games (31) up until a couple years ago--a span of three decades? His 33 career 100-yard games is/was an NCAA record, too. He also has/had the NCAA record for most average yards per carry (6.13 ypc). And Archie rarely played more than half a game, as Woody always took him out as soon as the Buckeyes were in control.

Keep stepping on your dick...
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
LOL! Johnson getting TD's have nothing to do with Archie being a product of the system! His pro career pretty much confirmed that.
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That's a perfect argument from a.....Notre ame fan.

What's your theory on Tom Brady? He wasn't that good in college, but it's not like he's the only scUM QB to play in the NFL, so what's the deal? Do you think maybe college success and pro success are sometimes not related in any way, shape or form? Are you one of the most obnoxious posters on the site? Is it about time for you to find another thread to talk up some aspect of tOSU in hopes that people will forget about this line of dipshit talk you just spewed, as you normally do?
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
I watched Archie play enough to know enough.

Cincy's o-line was good enough to get thme to the SB while Arche was a second team back.
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Evidently you didn't. The Bengals didn't make it to the SB until 1981 (Archie's sixth season). The Bengals OL flat out sucked during Archie's first five years, until they drafted Anthony Munoz in 1980. By that time, Archie was pretty well banged up, as would any RB with a line like that.
 
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NDC, I'm sure you'll issue a "heartfelt apology" later for all of this, but exactly how many times are you going to personally beat this dead horse?

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Archie = system , system, system
We shall see about Brady.
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Yeah so, alot of Archie's success was from the system he played in.
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
YEAH - Not at the pro level but I know I will get my chops busted on this but if Archie were as good as OJ or Marcus at the college level he would have rivaled there success at the pro level as well. He was very good but not good enough to take it to the next level as they were....
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A great college player yes but one of the all-time best. No
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I consider Reggie Bush to be a truly special CFB player, and if his size/speed are not enough for stardom in the NFL, that will not change his greatness in college.
 
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Thump said:
Remember that time somebody merged all of the "djtidebuck garbage/bitching" into one huge thread?

Is there a way a mod or admin. can do this with all of the Notre Dame nonsense?
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I've thought about it. This is in the reference locker, so it's not a priority, like if it were in the OD or the football forum.
 
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My uncle says Archie Griffin was like Barry Sanders in college. Archie would bounce off defenders and avoid defenders like Sanders. Pete Johnson has already been mentioned in taking away touchdowns. Baschnagel (10 year pro) and Corny Greene (the 2nd best OSU option QB ever) also took away carries from Griffin.
 
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My uncle says Archie Griffin was like Barry Sanders in college. Archie would bounce off defenders and avoid defenders like Sanders. Pete Johnson has already been mentioned in taking away touchdowns. Baschnagel (10 year pro) and Corny Greene (the 2nd best OSU option QB ever) also took away carries from Griffin.
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You mention Corny Greene, Archie Griffin, Pete Johnson, and Brian Baschnagel in your post. For some reason that makes sense to me, but I can't quite put my finger on it. :wink2:
 
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Ah yes, shock of all shocks, we are back to the old "product of a system" argument...well, try saying Joe Montana was a product of the Bill Walsh West Coast offense, and see what kind of reaction you get in certain circles.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Just because he played in a run system and had great blocking does not mean he was a great back. That fact eventually proved itself.

Funny how every other Hesiman winner that did not do squat in the NFL was over-rated, but those same rules do not apply to Archie.

A great college player yes but one of the all-time best. No
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are you retarded? he is the ONLY person to win 2 heisman trophies!
 
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