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Sloopy45

Sloopy45

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Today, A.L. & N.L. Rookies of the Year:

AL
1. Huston Street, RP, A's: 5-1, 23 Sv, 1.72 ERA. Pretty much a no-brainer here. He's already one of the Top 5 relievers in baseball, & probably getting better. His ERA was 2nd best among AL closers (a guy who comes out to 'Enter: Sandman' was 1st with 1.38).

2. Robbie Cano, 2B, Yanks: .297 AVG, 14 HR, 62 RBI. Big surprise here. I personally didn't see Robbie ranked in any of the sportswriters' top 5 ROY rankings, although he deserved to finish 2nd. Quick hands, sweet swing, & a very bright future. The Diamondbacks' GM should be fired for not taking him back in the RJ deal.

3. Jonny Gomes, DH, D-Rays: .282 AVG, 21 HR, 54 RBI. The kid can rake. One of a boatload of Tampa Bay's young offensive prospects. Only played in 101 games and smashed 21 bombs.

NL
1. Ryan Howard, 1B, Phils: .288 AVG, 22 HR, 63 RBI. Howard played in only 88 Games & smashed 22 dongs with 63 RBI. Pretty impressive. The NL had a ton of solid/spectacular rookies this season, but not enough played a full season to beat out Howard.

2. Willy Tavares, OF, 'Stros: .291 AVG, 3 HR, 29 RBI. Gets the nod here because he played a full season and had 34 SB.

3. Jeff Francoeur, RF, Braves: .300 AVG, 14 HR, 45 RBI. Might be the best of all the NL Rookies. People will look at this ROY finish 5 years from now & shake their head.

Cy Young to come tomorrow ...
 
Let me just say this. I don't get too emotional about the awards. But today proves that sportswriters have no frickin business voting on anything that involves objectivity in this sport.

They've proven time & time again that they are not objective observers and reporters of the sport, but merely juvenile, bias, and egotistical know-nothings who don't get laid enough.

You may hate the Yankees, but if you're covering baseball, you have to be objective about voting on the awards. Period.

In the past ten seasons, the New York Yankees have had one of the top 5 greatest runs in baseball history, and have come away with a total of 2 (repeat, TWO) of baseball's major awards in that span: Derek Jeter, ROY in '96, Roger Clemens, Cy Young in '01, and NO MVPs!! How is such a thing possible??

All the other dynasties in baseball history have been coincided with MVPs, Cy Youngs, & ROY's (for example, the Big Red Machine produced SIX MVPs in the 70's & the Yankees had 10 MVPs from 1950-1963).

The slights: 1996 Cy Young. Pat Hentgen (20-10, 3.22, 177 K) edged Andy Pettite (21-8, 3.87, 162 K) while pitching in meaningless games for a 4th place team with a 74-88 record. Hentgen & Pettite had very similar stats, but Andy carried a depleted Yankees staff to a Division Title & an eventual WS Title, pitching in pressure packed games throughout the season. Still trying to figure out why Hentgen won ..

2003 ROY: Somehow Angel Berroa (.287, 17, 73) gets the ROY over Hidecki Matsui (.287, 16, 106) despite having 20 less doubles and 30 less RBI. The reasoning? All of a sudden Japanese imports can't win the ROY, even though those same people voted the award to Ichiro in '01 & Kaz Sasaki in '00.

And now, yesterday ... I'm flabbergasted. What's the excuse?? Relievers can't win the Cy Young anymore?? Eric fuckin' Gagne won it two short years ago!!

Colon was awful down the stretch, and had very pedestrian stats (other than the 20 wins). What a freeking joke ..
 
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shock, shock, a Yankee fan with a complete disregard for common sense and objectivity.

Saying Pettite should have won in 1996 is a complete joke. He had an ERA of 3.87. End of discussion.

And Rivera. The only way a reliever deserves to win over a starter is if he has an amazing year. He aint Gagne and he aint a Cy Young winner. Boo hoo.
 
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Fortunately, the Yankees suffer from having too may big name players all the time. I'm sure many the players get votes for major awards. But just like USC and the Heisman this year, the voting is going to be diluted because they are all on the same team. So none really stand out as the difference maker.

BTW, Fuck the Yankees
 
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Guy Incognito: "And Rivera. The only way a reliever deserves to win over a starter is if he has an amazing year. He aint Gagne and he aint a Cy Young winner. Boo hoo."

RogerMoore aint no Sean Connery, either. :wink2:
 
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Thump: "How long till A-Rod is announced as the MVP winner over David Ortiz?"

The tragic irony in the whole thing is, Mr. May is probably going to win the MVP while the Great Rivera gets absolutely robbed of the Cy, when he was actually the MVP of the Yankees.

What an absolute frickin' joke.

I am pulling for Ortiz to win it now. And after yesterday's anti-Yankee travesty, I don't doubt that he will.
 
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Sloopy45 said:
Thump: "How long till A-Rod is announced as the MVP winner over David Ortiz?"

The tragic irony in the whole thing is, Mr. May is probably going to win the MVP while the Great Rivera gets absolutely robbed of the Cy, when he was actually the MVP of the Yankees.

What an absolute frickin' joke.

I am pulling for Ortiz to win it now. And after yesterday's anti-Yankee travesty, I don't doubt that he will.
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How can you say that he deserved it over Colon?
 
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Thump: "How can you say that he deserved it over Colon?"

Because, quite frankly, Colon had a very pedestrian season other than his record. He gave up 26 Homers, and only had 157 K's in 222.2 Innings. He also had a 3.48 ERA, which is 3rd highest all-time (I believe) for Cy Young award winners.

Look at the comparison: Rivera gave up 2 homers all season, and 1 (count 'em ONE) run on the road the ENTIRE year. His WHIP (0.87) was much better than Colon's (1.16), he struck out 80 batters in 78.1 Innings, and Rivera's BAA was an unbelievable .177 while Colon's was .254. And, oh yeah - the Great Mo also had a 1.38 ERA.

On one hand, you have a supremely dominant season from a closer, who deserves to win this award at some point - versus a guy who was on a good team and won 20 games.
 
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Sloopy45 said:
The slights: 1996 Cy Young. Pat Hentgen (20-10, 3.22, 177 K) edged Andy Pettite (21-8, 3.87, 162 K) while pitching in meaningless games for a 4th place team with a 74-88 record. Hentgen & Pettite had very similar stats, but Andy carried a depleted Yankees staff to a Division Title & an eventual WS Title, pitching in pressure packed games throughout the season. Still trying to figure out why Hentgen won ..
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He also had a 3.48 ERA, which is 3rd highest all-time (I believe) for Cy Young award winners.
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I'm not going to say that Colon should have won the Cy Young. I don't follow the AL enough to give an informed statement. However, I do find it a tad ironic that you note how high Colon's ERA (3.48) was this year, not too long after arguing that Petitte should have won it in 1996 with a 3.87 ERA versus Hentgen with a 3.22.
 
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Bucky Katt said:
I'm not going to say that Colon should have won the Cy Young. I don't follow the AL enough to give an informed statement. However, I do find it a tad ironic that you note how high Colon's ERA (3.48) was this year, not too long after arguing that Petitte should have won it in 1996 with a 3.87 ERA versus Hentgen with a 3.22.
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I noticed the same thing. Anxious to hear his response.
 
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