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Pittman versus Clarett

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DiamondBuck said:
having to be tracked down for an interview after the game because he wasn't on the podium with his teammates.
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I'm pretty sure it was just seniors on the podium because they couldn't hold the whole team on there. There may have been some juniors as well, but I'm pretty sure it was just upperclassmen allowed on the podium, so they had to wait for MoC to come up for the interview.
 
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strohs said:
No one has mentioned that Clarett wasnt always 100% during some of the Big 10 season...
That said, Pittman just keeps getting better and better every week!
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I did mention his injury problems throughout the season earlier in this thread(about a page back). And that Clarett did what he did as a freshman, and Pittman's doing what he's doing as a sophmore.
 
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Give me Pittman for 3or 4 years vs.Mo for one, Mo = me first..Pittman= team first. If Mo hadn't scored like Pittman he would've been all over TV and the papers whining. Who knows if Mo would have done anything after that first year..Where is he now???
 
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I'll take Clarett, a NC and 3 years of Drama over a 9-2 season with heartbreaking drops against the 2 toughest teams we played (each by under a TD) any day of the week.

On the field, Clarett COMPLETELY outshined Pittman. Off the field, I'll take Pittman easily.

If MoC hadn't been a total headcase, it would like be tOSU and not USC breaking NCAA recordbooks.

All said - I'm thrilled to have Pittman on the team and he's one of my favorite players on this year's squad. I love the power north-south running and the wreckless disregard for personal wellbeing :biggrin:
 
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Agree with TB2.

Pittman is a fine young player and will have a better career and someone we can all be proud of as a Buckeye.

Thats being said and trying to be 100% objective regardless of my personal feelings for certain people.....MoC was heads and shoulders better as a true frosh than Pittman is now as a Soph.

Anyone who forgets the change that came over the O and how different they looked in the few good drives he gave us vs scUM in 02 needs to go look at the game again. We lose that game without Clarett.

MoC was a game changing difference maker that simply doesn't come around all that often, Pittman is just a very good B10 football player. Absolutely not a knock on Pittman but there is a difference between All-American talent and All-B10 talent.
 
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scooter1369 said:
One more factor. Pittman is Sophomore.

Clarett was a true Frosh dominating the Big Ten. Pittman is doing well. I'm happy for him. But Clarett was an 18 year old kid that lit the fire under a National title team. Whether by toting the rock or by being the head cheerleader on the sideline, Clarett provided the fire that helped to us to a title.
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theoneandonlytedginn05 said:
You are failing to take one thing into consideration, Clarett's stats were as a freshman and Pittman's are as a sophmore.
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Oh, and Clarett was better. It's not really close when you consider the impact both have had. Antonio could be very good when his career has ended, but he's not on the same level right now.
 
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I like Pittman very much and have been one of his biggest fans here, but if anyone truly believes he's at the same level as Clarett was talent-wise, check yourself in for rehab. Clarett was bigger (much bigger), faster, had as good as or better vision, and had as good as or better moves. Once we got into Big Ten play, opponents put 8-9 in the box nearly the entire game while he was in. Keep in mind he had surgery on his knee after the WSU game (kept him out of the Cincy game), and ran for five yards a pop against Indiana in his first game back despite ripping open his stitches during the game. He got the shoulder stinger on our last offensive play at Wisconsin (third conference game), and he re-hurt it on the first drive against Penn State, after gaining 39 yards on just four carries. He just wasn't the same after that, yet he still was solid runner despite being hurt (he had 52 yards on 14 carries at Purdue before getting hurt again, despite nearly the entire Purdue defense keying on him...his 3.7 ypc that game was more than twice as good as the rest of the team). And who can forget his catch (and reaction) late in The Game to set up Hall's winning score?

But, fortunately for us, Pittman doesn't have the emotional baggage that Clarett did, and that means Pittman will have the much better career at Ohio State and a much better shot at playing in the NFL.
 
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mili, i think pittman is considerably faster than MoC. other than that, your dead on. thats the biggest thing i think people are missing in this convo. we weren't a spread team with MoC. there was no tedd ginn, holmes, gonzo, or hall. we had jenkins, jenkins, and well... jenkins. when MoC was in the game teams keyed HARD on the run.

don't get me wrong, i think pittman is smack dab in the middle of a breakout year. but pittman is still a rung to low to be compaired to the greats or even the coulda been great nutjobs. though i doubt this is the last time we will have this convo :). oh and to those of you who didn't think pittman had the kind of speed to take it to the house.... told you so! neener neener neeeeeeeeeennnnneeeeerrrr!!!!! :p
 
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martinss01 said:
mili, i think pittman is considerably faster than MoC.
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I seriously doubt that. Clarett was never caught from behind by anyone who didn't have an angle. Tressel wouldn't release Clarett's 40 time to the press, but it rumored to be well under 4.5. Pittman's 40 time is 4.5 IIRC. I think Pittman gets up to his full speed a tad quicker than Clarett did, but in top-end speed Clarett had the edge.
 
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I think that the most important matter here is that Pittman is now better as a soph than Ross was as a senior. :wink:

As far as the player who formerly wore #13 goes, he played one partial season and had an impact, but he chose not to play football after that. Pittman's overall career will exceed his by a wide margin.
 
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Clarett was a special player, a "natural" with excellent physcial talent combined with uncanny vision and timing ("field presence"), which truly separated him from most "merely great" running backs. If Clarett had stayed three years, the argument we'd be having now would likely be "Clarett versus Griffin".
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
Clarett was a special player, a "natural" with excellent physcial talent combined with uncanny vision and timing ("field presence"), which truly separated him from most "merely great" running backs. If Clarett had stayed three years, the argument we'd be having now would likely be "Clarett versus Griffin".
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He was indeed a special player that MoC. Unfortunately, I fear that had he stayed here for 3 more years Tressel would have had to morph himself into Bowden. Also, another argument we likely could be airing would be about whether our NCAA sanctions were going to be bad or simply unbearable.
 
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