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People Leaving Cleveland and other cities

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US Census Bureau released populationion change numbers for the largest US cities yesterday. I'm guessing it doesn't surprise anyone to see Cleveland and Detroit at the top of the list for losers. I have to admit, I was suprised to see Cinncinnati at 2nd though....I guess everyone is moving to Clermont and Warren Counties.

Population Change 2000-2004 (10 Biggest Losers)

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 355pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=473 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 221pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 10496" width=295><COL style="WIDTH: 67pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 3157" span=2 width=89><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.2pt" height=18><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; WIDTH: 221pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 13.2pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=295 height=18 x:str="'Dayton city, Ohio">Dayton city, Ohio</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; WIDTH: 67pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=89 x:num="-5904">-5,904</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; WIDTH: 67pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=89 x:num="-3.5524106933338149">-3.6</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.2pt" height=18><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 13.2pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18 x:str="'Pittsburgh city, Pennsylvania">Pittsburgh city, Pennsylvania</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-12113">-12,113</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-3.6205438138706314">-3.6</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.2pt" height=18><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 13.2pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18 x:str="'Evansville city, Indiana">Evansville city, Indiana</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-4426">-4,426</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-3.6403414979191">-3.6</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.2pt" height=18><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 13.2pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18 x:str="'Cleveland city, Ohio">Cleveland city, Ohio</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-18788">-18,788</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-3.9348904228939081">-3.9</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.2pt" height=18><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 13.2pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18 x:str="'Birmingham city, Alabama">Birmingham city, Alabama</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-9643">-9,643</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-3.9717124122705854">-4.0</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.2pt" height=18><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 13.2pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18 x:str="'Flint city, Michigan">Flint city, Michigan</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-5227">-5,227</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-4.1835076795018526">-4.2</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.2pt" height=18><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 13.2pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18 x:str="'San Francisco city, California">San Francisco city, California</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-32503">-32,503</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-4.184578227009796">-4.2</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.2pt" height=18><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 13.2pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18 x:str="'New Orleans city, Louisiana">New Orleans city, Louisiana</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-22405">-22,405</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-4.622694842306375">-4.6</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.2pt" height=18><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 13.2pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18 x:str="'Cincinnati city, Ohio">Cincinnati city, Ohio</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-17131">-17,131</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-5.1710762636400682">-5.2</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.2pt" height=18><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 13.2pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18 x:str="'Detroit city, Michigan">Detroit city, Michigan</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-51072">-51,072</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="-5.3688227317165476">-5.4




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Columbus was the only big city in Ohio to gain population since 2000.

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I heard a comedian do a funny bit about Dayton Ohio one time. He was kind of ripping on the city, and the way they claim the wright brothers etc. He said "Do you know why the Wright Bros. invented the airplane in the first place?"


To get the Fuck out of Dayton!

I thought it was pretty funny.
 
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BB73 said:
It's surprising to see San Francisco on that list, losing 32,503 people.

Not really, If you could sell your house for 500,000 that you bought 10 years ago for 100,000, you'd move the hell out too.

I am moving out of Pittsburgh in November, so I'll add to that stat.
 
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tibor75 said:
Not really, If you could sell your house for 500,000 that you bought 10 years ago for 100,000, you'd move the hell out too.

I am moving out of Pittsburgh in November, so I'll add to that stat.
care to take this shitty sports teams with you? I'm out next year too.

BB73 said:
It's surprising to see San Francisco on that list, losing 32,503 people.
Gee - I could think of another reason.....
 
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My brother lives in Cleveland and is always complaining about how high the taxes are, how bad the schools are, and more. He then instantly follows it by asking when I am moving there and he is dead serious.
 
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I see the big easy is in the top 10. The MF'ers are all moving over here where I live. That includes my in-laws. Traffic is a mess and the schools are packed. They end up destroying everything they were looking for.

San Fran is just too freaking expensive. CA does have a lot of folks that sell and move to OR or AZ. My old man lives in Tucson and has been bitching about that for years.
 
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