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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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NYG21254246 said:
1. I remember that there was talk of an "Eastern Conference" right before Penn State joined the Big 10- with Penn State, Pitt, Maryland, Syracuse, Boston College, Buttgers, West Virginia, and a couple other schools. Joe Paterno was the one who nixed that.
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colobuck79 said:
Why would Paterno nix that? Those were the same tomato cans they played every year anyway. Oh yeah, he didn't want to share the revenue with those tomato cans.
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I was always led to believe (probably from this website) that Paterno wanted that conference. They all told him to eat a dirty diaper and they joined the Big East without him. I guess Maryland was in the ACC already, I bet.
What did Joe care about revenue, anyway? I mean, he was willing to work for minimum wage AND donate enough money for the school to build a library. The guy probably didn't even know what money was. He was just out to make sure his players graduated, and that the players' fathers got good jobs as referees, and that whatever conference he's in gets a good replay system in place so that everything is fair. Now that I think of it, I'm sad that he's gone. This may have just ruined my weekend, and it's only Wednesday.
 
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Zurp said:
I was always led to believe (probably from this website) that Paterno wanted that conference. They all told him to eat a dirty diaper and they joined the Big East without him. I guess Maryland was in the ACC already, I bet.
What did Joe care about revenue, anyway? I mean, he was willing to work for minimum wage AND donate enough money for the school to build a library. The guy probably didn't even know what money was. He was just out to make sure his players graduated, and that the players' fathers got good jobs as referees, and that whatever conference he's in gets a good replay system in place so that everything is fair. Now that I think of it, I'm sad that he's gone. This may have just ruined my weekend, and it's only Wednesday.
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NYG21254246 said:
1. I remember that there was talk of an "Eastern Conference" right before Penn State joined the Big 10- with Penn State, Pitt, Maryland, Syracuse, Boston College, Buttgers, West Virginia, and a couple other schools. Joe Paterno was the one who nixed that.

2. Spanier should have spent the rest of his life in prison.
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The way I recall it was that Paterno was the one pushing for it. The other schools basically told him to pound sand because they figured he would try to run the show. It was actually well before PSU joined the B1G in 1993.The other schools formed the football portion of the Big East and pretty much blackballed PSU.
https://www.wvnews.com/sports/wvu/t...cle_f962b95f-49ff-5761-b3df-3e05f5c578c9.html
 
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Zurp said:
I was always led to believe (probably from this website) that Paterno wanted that conference. They all told him to eat a dirty diaper and they joined the Big East without him. I guess Maryland was in the ACC already, I bet.
What did Joe care about revenue, anyway? I mean, he was willing to work for minimum wage AND donate enough money for the school to build a library. The guy probably didn't even know what money was. He was just out to make sure his players graduated, and that the players' fathers got good jobs as referees, and that whatever conference he's in gets a good replay system in place so that everything is fair. Now that I think of it, I'm sad that he's gone. This may have just ruined my weekend, and it's only Wednesday.
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gmen6981 said:
The way I recall it was that Paterno was the one pushing for it. The other schools basically told him to pound sand because they figured he would try to run the show. It was actually well before PSU joined the B1G in 1993.The other schools formed the football portion of the Big East and pretty much blackballed PSU.
https://www.wvnews.com/sports/wvu/t...cle_f962b95f-49ff-5761-b3df-3e05f5c578c9.html
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I had it the other way around. Paterno wanted it, and the eventual Big East told him to pound sand. It was apparently Paterno & West Virginia's brainchild.

From what I saw, Villanova (of all schools) was one of the ones leading the blackballing of Penn State.

From the eventual schools that were in the football iteration of the Big East, most of them were horrible. The only difference separating trash from the football programs at Buttgers & Temple, was that trash gets picked up. Pitt & West Virginia were mediocre at best.

Boston College & Syracuse (5 NY6 bowls from 1987-98) were middling to decent back in that time frame.
 
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Bill Lucas said:
Did they bury him in his favorite pair of poopy pants?
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Whatever they did with the body, I don’t think it’s wrong to dig him and Bo up and put them back six-feet under in a 69 and call it a day. Split the difference between locations and I’m guessing that’s somewhere just a bit west of Youngstown. Fine place for them to be laid to rest given the number of people in the area who would (daily) make an effort to go piss on the grave.
 
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This will not be a popular opinion around here, but I am not sure Sandusky did it. Has anyone listened to the podcast from John Ziegler, With the Benefit of Hindsight? I am not all the way through it but he raises some serious issues with how the media built their narrative and the facts were just not aligned with the narrative. I have questions, but the podcast makes you think.
 
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Hstead said:
This will not be a popular opinion around here, but I am not sure Sandusky did it. Has anyone listened to the podcast from John Ziegler, With the Benefit of Hindsight? I am not all the way through it but he raises some serious issues with how the media built their narrative and the facts were just not aligned with the narrative. I have questions, but the podcast makes you think.
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So you think that it is plausible that all the victims and other witnesses (like Mike McQueary) who testified at Sandusky's trial committed perjury?

Just sayin': I'm convinced that Sandusky did do it.

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Hstead said:
This will not be a popular opinion around here, but I am not sure Sandusky did it. Has anyone listened to the podcast from John Ziegler, With the Benefit of Hindsight? I am not all the way through it but he raises some serious issues with how the media built their narrative and the facts were just not aligned with the narrative. I have questions, but the podcast makes you think.
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I don’t think him ever doing it was in question, no? The issue was who knew and why they allowed it to go on. I could be wrong.
 
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buchtelgrad04 said:
I don’t think him ever doing it was in question, no? The issue was who knew and why they allowed it to go on. I could be wrong.
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You’re not wrong, don’t let shit lords on the internet make us question basic reality.

There’s also hundreds of proofs out there in internet land that the earth is flat, probably some podcasts, too. Real compelling stuff if you’re dumb and want to feel special by being “smart” enough to believe in something different from everyone else.

Edit: it takes three seconds of viewing Ziegler’s feed to see that his modus operandi is to question the credibility of the accusers, which is “defend the rapist” 101, first of all.

Secondly, the accusers relate experiences spanning decades, in different places, under different circumstances. The credibility of any one of them, or even multiples of them, doesn’t impact the others.

Additionally, as Script highlighted, there were also witnesses like McCreary, and all of the above was vetted in the court of law. If you’re going to take the time to listen to a bullshit podcast from a grifter trying to take advantage of an audience desperate for the answer he is giving them, you should probably spend an equal amount of time reviewing the Freeh report and the court proceedings before you reach a conclusion.

And finally, the answer that the Penn State fans are desperate to be told is that Joe Paterno didn’t do anything wrong—it’s a disgusting twist that that has turned into defending Sandusky himself in the intervening years.
 
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Hstead said:
This will not be a popular opinion around here, but I am not sure Sandusky did it. Has anyone listened to the podcast from John Ziegler, With the Benefit of Hindsight? I am not all the way through it but he raises some serious issues with how the media built their narrative and the facts were just not aligned with the narrative. I have questions, but the podcast makes you think.
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Take that bullshit somewhere else.
 
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Hstead said:
This will not be a popular opinion around here, but I am not sure Sandusky did it. Has anyone listened to the podcast from John Ziegler, With the Benefit of Hindsight? I am not all the way through it but he raises some serious issues with how the media built their narrative and the facts were just not aligned with the narrative. I have questions, but the podcast makes you think.
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I’m just going to give you a huge benefit of the doubt and call this a masterful demonstration of deadpan satire.
 
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