Penn State 38, Illinois 24 (Final)

[3074326]

i dont think most osu fans understand the flip side. who is penn states biggest rival?

Campus area police?

 

[txp135]

You left USC out of the discussion because it shot your whole cupcake theory to [censored]. Trying to compare schedules when we had arguably the best team of the decade at their place is laughable. To be honest though, none of that [censored] matters. They'll settle this argument on the field.

It is laughable. I never discussed about OOC schedule until buckeyenation talked about "pansies" that we played. Like tOSU doesn't play any pansies? Of course USC is not a pansy team so I left USC out. So you play 3 pansies and we play 3 pansies, what's the difference? But to call OrSU a pansy team after they beat USC? Yeah, I was being sarcastic about OrSU being better than USC, it wasn't meant for the rest of you. OrSU actually beat USC 2 out of the last 3 yrs and finished top 25 the past 2 years, but Troy is still better huh? If you read only the last post, then it's taken out of context.

 

[3074326]

Yes, I think Troy is better than Oregon State. Oregon State sucks this year. That doesn't mean they sucked two out of the last three years, it means they suck this year.

They upset USC, but that does not make them a good team.

There is a difference in playing three pansies and playing three pansies + USC, in SoCal.

 

[txp135]

Yes, I think Troy is better than Oregon State. Oregon State sucks this year. That doesn't mean they sucked two out of the last three years, it means they suck this year.

They upset USC, but that does not make them a good team.

There is a difference in playing three pansies and playing three pansies + USC, in SoCal.

Yes, even If USC goes 2-9 and lose to OrSU head to head. They're still better than OrSU going 9-2, I know. We are going in circles here. Apparently some people just understand what they want to hear and ignore the rest.

 

[3074326]

Yes, even If USC goes 2-9 and lose to OrSU head to head. They're still better than OrSU going 9-2, I know. We are going in circles here. Apparently some people just understand what they want to hear and ignore the rest.

We're not going in circles here, OSU's OOC schedule is better than Penn State's this year. Period. Oregon State beating USC does not make OSU's OOC schedule equal to PSU's.

I'm not even going to address the first sentence, because it's fucking stupid.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

who is penn states biggest rival?

The College Park district attorney?

 

[jwinslow]

But to call OrSU a pansy team after they beat USC?

Yes, they are. It's beyond a pattern at this point for SC to lose to bad teams.

OrSU actually beat USC 2 out of the last 3 yrs and finished top 25 the past 2 years, but Troy is still better huh?

Beyond how irrelevant the last 2 years are to this year, arguing over which team is 'most bad' is pretty point. Whether they're mediocre or awful is pretty irrelevant, they weren't a quality opponent.

I never discussed about OOC schedule until buckeyenation talked about "pansies" that we played.

And this is a buckeye board that will require some thick skin.

We get it. PSU should have been playing Bama, but they aren't. OSU should have had a quality OOC opponent in Washington, but they self-destructed since they were scheduled. At the end of the day, that 07 ooc schedule was still a 'Y.A.W.N.', much like Penn State's this year, even if both intended otherwise.

And no matter how often SCal self-destructs against bad Pac-10 opponents, that doesn't make the bad pac-10 opponent better. Penn State's schedule simply doesn't match up, whatever the intention for it was.

Like tOSU doesn't play any pansies?

Everyone plays pansies. OOC schedules aren't judged on the bad teams, they're judged on how much a team challenges itself. PSU did not look to be challenged coming into this year.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

It is laughable. I never discussed about OOC schedule until buckeyenation talked about "pansies" that we played. Like tOSU doesn't play any pansies? Of course USC is not a pansy team so I left USC out. So you play 3 pansies and we play 3 pansies, what's the difference? But to call OrSU a pansy team after they beat USC? Yeah, I was being sarcastic about OrSU being better than USC, it wasn't meant for the rest of you. OrSU actually beat USC 2 out of the last 3 yrs and finished top 25 the past 2 years, but Troy is still better huh? If you read only the last post, then it's taken out of context.

You played 4.

And, just like when you scheduled them and who backed out, who OSU plays is irrelevant to the topic that State Penn's OOC schedule was pathetic this year. Don't like it? There's not really much you can do about it, is there?

 

[txp135]

Man, some really defensive folks. Buckeyenation can't stand up for himself so he needs your help. If you are going to reply, please at least read enough of the thread so you understand what's going on. I know I was being rediculous saying OrSU is better than USC, I just wanted to see if BN can actually give an intelligent answer.

The fact is that he accused PSU of playing pansies. The fact is that tOSU also are playing pansies! It's like saying to someone that you have 4 F's while I only have 3 F's. I left USC out of the list for obvious reason, they're not a pansy!

Troy is better than OrSU? When was the last time Troy upset a top 5 team? OrSU did it twice in 3 seasons! But hey, if you think that 2+2 is 3, that's your business. Look at the stats:

First Downs1622 Third Down Efficiency2-107-16 Fourth Down Efficiency1-10-0 Plays-Net Yards51-31373-343 Rushes-Yds22-8645-176 Passing Yds227167 Kick Return Yds8944 Punt Return Yds13-3 Passes18-29-118-28-0 Punts6-2366-230 Fumbles-Lost2-10-0 Penalties-Yds7-845-27 Time of Poss.25:1034:50


OrSU beat USC in the trenches, it's not like it was a last second hail mary or unforced errors and they got lucky. They out-played USC. OrSU is a cupcake of a team or not is very debatable. They lost the game to Stanford, who they outgained 190yds (OrSU had close to 500 yds of offense that game)! But I know no one will say Stanford upset OrSU.

So buckeyenation is beating the drum about PSU playing 3 pansies. Well, tOSU also played 3 pansies. At this point in the season, the only evidence that USC is a #9 team is how they played against tOSU? The only evidence that OSU is a #14 team because they played USC? Like we never saw top 5 preseason ranked teams end up out of the top 25? That never happen, right?


To the rest of the Buckeyes fans who are rational (you know who you are), this argument is not against you.

You played 4.

And, just like when you scheduled them and who backed out, who OSU plays is irrelevant to the topic that State Penn's OOC schedule was pathetic this year. Don't like it? There's not really much you can do about it, is there?

 

[buckeyes_rock]

Everyone plays pansies. OOC schedules aren't judged on the bad teams, they're judged on how much a team challenges itself. PSU did not look to be challenged coming into this year.

This whole schedule argument always cracks me up. I mean it's really crazy...do people really expect us to schedule 4 top ten programs in the same season? If we have the stones to schedule USC, then that ought to earn us the right to play some pansies. C'mon.

 

[BayBuck]

Man, some really defensive folks. Buckeyenation can't stand up for himself so he needs your help. If you are going to reply, please at least read enough of the thread so you understand what's going on. I know I was being rediculous saying OrSU is better than USC, I just wanted to see if BN can actually give an intelligent answer.

The fact is that he accused PSU of playing pansies. The fact is that tOSU also are playing pansies! It's like saying to someone that you have 4 F's while I only have 3 F's. I left USC out of the list for obvious reason, they're not a pansy!

Or maybe he was responding to your comments about classy JoePa not wanting to run up the score, by pointing out that JoePa had done pretty much that against all your weak non-conference opponents, and you're the one who got defensive because he tossed in the word "pansies" (which seems a pretty accurate description of that lineup). BN27 hates PSU and takes any opportunity to rag on them, but you are the one being defensive here.

 

[txp135]

You are right, no one expect anyone to schedule 4 top ten programs. I never said anything about OSU's schedule at first. But don't say others are playing pansies when you are also playing the same caliber teams. They are glorified scrimages. Yes, PSU lacks a high caliber team on the schedule, I already explained why.

This whole schedule argument always cracks me up. I mean it's really crazy...do people really expect us to schedule 4 top ten programs in the same season? If we have the stones to schedule USC, then that ought to earn us the right to play some pansies. C'mon.

 

[3074326]

Man, some really defensive folks. Buckeyenation can't stand up for himself so he needs your help. If you are going to reply, please at least read enough of the thread so you understand what's going on. I know I was being rediculous saying OrSU is better than USC, I just wanted to see if BN can actually give an intelligent answer.

When you made that statement, it was addressed to me, I believe..

The fact is that he accused PSU of playing pansies. The fact is that tOSU also are playing pansies! It's like saying to someone that you have 4 F's while I only have 3 F's. I left USC out of the list for obvious reason, they're not a pansy!

Like I said, 3 pansies is not equal to 3 pansies + an away game at USC. Sure, we play pansies, like everyone, but we also play a big OOC game. There's no comparison.

If you're leaving out USC to make your argument, and you know this, then why are we even having this debate? Everyone in the country plays pansies. This argument has just become completely meaningless, but I'll continue to do it because it's more fun than sitting here watching TV.

Troy is better than OrSU? When was the last time Troy upset a top 5 team? OrSU did it twice in 3 seasons! But hey, if you think that 2+2 is 3, that's your business. Look at the stats:

I don't give a shit about the past, or statistics. I think Troy could beat Oregon State this year. They won't play, so it really doesn't matter. All I know is that it's pretty well-known that Oregon State sucks this year. That's what everyone was saying before USC came out and didn't show up, and Oregon State played their annual game of the century. Expect them to suck again from here on out, like they did before USC.

To the rest of the Buckeyes fans who are rational (you know who you are), this argument is not against you.

From what I'm reading, Buckeye fans aren't being irrational.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Or maybe he was responding to your comments about classy JoePa not wanting to run up the score, by pointing out that JoePa had done pretty much that against all your weak non-conference opponents, and you're the one who got defensive because he tossed in the word "pansies" (which seems a pretty accurate description of that lineup). BN27 hates PSU and takes any opportunity to rag on them, but you are the one being defensive here.

Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner.

But don't say others are playing pansies when you are also playing the same caliber teams.

Why? Does who Ohio State plays OOC change who Penn State plays? Ohio State could have played YSU 4 times in a row, and Penn State's schedule still would have been a pussy schedule.

 

[txp135]

Yes, the scores do look like it. However, look at the scores by quarters.

Team 1st 2nd 3rd 4th

CC 14 24 21 7
OrSU 14 21 10 0
Syr 21 17 10 7
Temple 0 31 7 7

And he even put in 3rd stringers in there, including RBs/QBs. He made Stefon green (backup RB) ran up the middle when Stefon is better suited to bounce out and break a run. Of course those players are going to want to score, JoePa isn't going to run out and tackle them right before they cross the goal line. Joe used the opportunities to give them experience.

I expected hatred, but I didn't expect so much ignorance from him. If OrSU didn't play PSU, they'd be 2-1. If USC didn't play tOSU, they'd be 1-1 against (gasp) "pansies". I wouldn't use that for ammo if I'm gonna shoot someone I hate down. BN27 has yet to learn where the safety switch is on the gun he's using after loading the blank ammo.

Or maybe he was responding to your comments about classy JoePa not wanting to run up the score, by pointing out that JoePa had done pretty much that against all your weak non-conference opponents, and you're the one who got defensive because he tossed in the word "pansies" (which seems a pretty accurate description of that lineup). BN27 hates PSU and takes any opportunity to rag on them, but you are the one being defensive here.