Penn State 31, Notre Dame 10 (final)

[Bleed S & G]

Sure, the 03 class. Then Ty didn't even make the top-25 for two years, while mediocre classes like WSU, Wash & ASU broke that t-25.
Which plays right into their argument. 1 + 0 + 0 + 1 + 1 does not equal 5, and is significantly less than 3 when factoring the inexperience.

hmm, i guess it just seems to me domers are trying to have it both ways.

i clearly didn't illustrate my argument very well

 

[OregonBuckeye]

ACC maybe, but its time to quit looking down our nose at the BE.

UC just rolled a Pac10 school and USF went to Auburn and did what a top of the division B12 team could not do. They beat Auburn in Auburn.

WVU and L'ville may not have great defenses(or even good ones) but they are legit teams. Hell at this point I'd say Rutgers is no worse than a Minnesota or Iowa.

I have as much conference pride as anyone but its time to just keep our mouths shut on the whole topic. Almost every B10 team struggled with a MAC team this week, Oregon humiliated tsun and PSU didn't beat NoD any worse at home than GT did on the road.

Maybe later this year we can talk but right now the B10 is playing like one of, if not the worst conference.

We're winning ugly but we're still winning. IMO, it's hard to even make a case for the ACC not being the worst conference. VT, Cryami, and FSU are as bad as ever and we all know their bottom-feeders are as bad as it gets. BC, WF(they've been impressive in their 2 losses), and GT are about the only respectable teams in that conference.