Peach Bowl

[NJ-Buckeye]

I thought it was a classic example of one team wanting it so much more than the other... Miami has to be embarrassed... that was terrible...

 

[thackattack]

Anybody else catch that username "RepeatIn2002" on the Miami board? Thought that was pretty funny...maybe a change of name was in order after losing to The Best Damn Team In The Land.

 

[NFBuck]

40-3?!?!?! Larry Coker sure hasn't done mutch since old Butchie's recruits moved on. Anyone think he may start feeling some heat down in Coral Gables?

 

[ScriptOhio]

A certain network is reporting the LSU player-taking-the-game-ball story, and also that 2 players at Miami were knocked out by someone swinging a helmet. Yikes. I mean I hate Cryami as much as anyone...but talk about should be suspended if they have eligibility left...using a helmet as a weapon?

Trash-talking between players grew into a postgame brawl in the LSU tunnel, and Larry Coker, coach of No. 9 Miami, said two of his players were knocked unconscious. There was shoving and punching before Georgia State Patrol officers intervened. Minutes later, Miami's Andrew Bain, apparently dazed, was escorted by officers back out of the tunnel.
Coker said Bain and Miami's Khalil Jones were knocked unconscious, and the coach said no players were detained by police. No players were hospitalized.
"I don't know what happened and I don't condone it," Coker said.
LSU's Jacob Hester, who ran for 70 yards and a touchdown said trash-talking, some involving LSU receiver Dwayne Bowe, a Miami native, began as good-natured fun.
"We had a guy who is from Miami who was kidding around with one of his boys," Hester said. "Miami thought it was something serious. They came in the tunnel and they were swinging, but it was just a joke between friends."
After a few minutes, the entire LSU team was back on the field celebrating the win with fans.
Miami players weren't available for comment after the game.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=253640099&confId=null

 

[sandgk]

Gee whiz Script, who'd a thunk it? Cryami dons their thug garb after a thoroughly embarrasing loss. At least that's the way the initial report reads with Jacob Hester's on the spot account.

To Coker's credit he was quoted post-game as saying there is no place for this type of behavior.

Then there is this version - showing on the ESPN site this AM. LINK

ATLANTA -- The game was bad enough for the Miami Hurricanes. What happened immediately after was even worse.
No. 9 Miami suffered its worst loss in more than seven years on Friday night, a 40-3 defeat to 10th-ranked LSU in the Chick-Fil-A Peach Bowl -- a game marred by a skirmish near one of the field exit tunnels shortly after the game.
Miami coach Larry Coker said he was told the incident started when an LSU player tried to grab a game ball from a ballboy on the Hurricanes' sideline. That sparked a meleé with more than a dozen players involved in some capacity, and which apparently led to two Miami players being knocked unconscious.
"As a university, as a football program, we don't condone any type of activities such as that," Coker said. "Certainly, I think, that detracts from a great bowl game and what the spirit of college football is all about."
Coker said the two unconscious players were Andrew Bain and Khalil Jones. Neither was hospitalized, said Coker, who was told that those players were injured by someone swinging a helmet during the scuffle.
Miami players were not made available for comment after the game.
"That was a bunch of craziness," LSU offensive lineman Andrew Whitworth said.

Which paints things in a different light - though it was a game ball, thus a souvenir of LSU putting the biggest loss in 7-years on the Canes - trying to grab it from the Miami sideline kind of has an air of rubbing it in.

This may be a story that grows in the telling. Sadly.

 

[sandgk]

Excellent CFN Write-up

In the interest of full and complete disclosure, I could not be happier that LSU put an enormous thumping on the 'canes in the game. (Also very disappointed in the post-game gang brawl).

By Matthew Zemek - LINK

[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif] Instant Analysis
[/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif] Peach Bowl - LSU 40 ... Miami 3[/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-1]

[/SIZE][/FONT] ByMatthew Zemek It was almost two months ago. Yeah, remember way back when? Sure you do.
The Miami Hurricanes had just played like The Miami Hurricanes. They sent Virginia Tech into a mental funk the Hokies never really recovered from. All the anger, the piss and vinegar, that had been missing from Coral Gables since Ken Dorsey left town suddenly re-emerged, and on that triumphant night in Blacksburg, it seemed as though Larry Coker had left the shadows cast by Dorsey, former UM coach Butch Davis, and even Dennis Erickson and Jimmy Johnson. The Coker era seemed to be on solid footing, and Miami football seemed to be headed back to a familiar place: a conference championship and a BCS bowl game.

But then a loss to Georgia Tech forced the Canes to make a second straight appearance in the Peach Bowl, not the preferred postseason game for a program that used to make the Orange Bowl its regular New Year's residence. Suddenly, the glory of their Nov. 5 romp in Lane Stadium had evaporated for Larry Coker's crew.
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However, a shot at redemption would come their way: despite their not-so-Peachy bowl invite, the No. 9 Canes drew No. 10 LSU to create the only non-BCS bowl involving two top ten teams. A win over Les Miles' Tigers would enable Miami to hold onto much of the acclaim it attained after the win against Virginia Tech. A beatdown of a supremely talented SEC power would enable the national college football community to say, "Well, they weren't pretty at times, and they're not the juggernaut they used to be, but Miami is still in the mix, still a factor, still an upper-tier program." This game against LSU offered Miami another road back to prominence.

Instead, Larry Coker's team took a fatal turn, a sharp detour onto a road of irrelevance.

Indeed, after LSU dismantled them by 37 (yes, thirty-seven) points with a backup quarterback, the Hurricanes can no longer claim to be connected to the last of their true glory years. This is partly perception, but it's also grounded in reality. The freshman class of 2002--the year when Dorsey led the Canes to the cusp of a yet another national title--finished its run with this game: that's a cold, hard fact. But beyond iron-clad truths, Miami will suffer from this game in terms of public opinion and national perception.

With a performance this bad in a game this big, Miami can no longer deserve the benefit of the doubt in future rankings controversies, or to put it more simply, the Canes can no longer be propped up by the simple but weighty saying, "they're still Miami." No, on this night in the Georgia Dome, the huge story surrounding "LSU 40, Miami 3" was that Miami officially stopped being Miami. Miami became Miami for a brief moment in Blacksburg nearly two months ago, but just as suddenly, Miami ceased being Miami on this nightmarish evening in Atlanta.

The pathetic nature of the Canes' performance lay in one simple play (in a blowout this big, it's the symbolic stuff that lingers more than the technical): after LSU had taken a 10-3 lead with a ballsy long-bomb touchdown pass by Matt Flynn (who was sensational filling in for JaMarcus Russell), the Canes faced 4th and inches in LSU territory. In a bowl game, a one-time postseason showcase, there is rarely any good reason to not go for a first down in such a situation. But for some reason, Larry Coker chose to punt.

When the Canes crushed Va Tech in Blacksburg, Charlie Jones ran wild behind a dominant and authoritative offensive line that smacked around the Hokies and asserted Miami's superiority. But against LSU, Coker--with that decision on 4th and inches--conveyed a message of timidity. After that moment, LSU--like any good bunch of Bengal Tigers should--sensed its opponent's fragility and went in for the kill. The remainder of the second quarter and the whole second half turned into one huge bloodbath. The lack of intensity LSU showed in its previous Georgia Dome game (the SEC title tilt versus Georgia) flowed to the Miami sideline, while Les Miles' team--ironically, without Russell, its incredible physical specimen with an unreal arm--maxed out behind Flynn and a bonecrushing defense that sent the Canes into hiding.

Yes, LSU's major bounce-back with a backup quarterback calling the shots is a huge story, and on most nights, that would get the runaway buzz. But when Miami loses by 37, other big stories get dwarfed. The major headline from this game is stunning but simple: Miami is no longer Miami. That's what happens when your most consistent play is a punt, even on 4th and inches in a game you trail by a touchdown.

If you only had a hunch, or a vague sense of awareness, that something hasn't been quite right in Miami over the past few seasons, this game turned those slight gut feelings into solid head knowledge: a program that's been living off its reputation now lacks a sterling reputation to stand on. If Miami does big things next season, the Canes and Larry Coker will have to start from scratch. [/SIZE]

Meanwhile the Cane boards have a a lot of mourning this morning.
http://mb27.scout.com/fmiami20779frm1.showMessage?topicID=133422.topic

And then in this thread ...
http://mb27.scout.com/fmiami20779frm1.showMessage?topicID=133426.topic

And this quip froma disgusted cane fan ..

caneola
The Bionic Whistler
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(12/31/05 10:22:55 am)
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Re: Why Bain got knocked Out..... <hr size="1"> We're officially Rutgers. The laughing stock of CFB. Where we now are lauded for "playing right", "winning with class" and "doing it the right way." That also equates to us being viewed as a team without heart. Milquetoast. Butt of jokes.

I'm going to enjoy the offseason.

 

[LoKyBuckeye]

 

[Jaxbuck]

Never have 3 teams enjoyed a longer run of overrated hype from beating up on each other when they all three suck than the great Miami-FSU-VT circle jerk of 2005.

Am I still reading articles pointing to their win in Vicksburg as a dominating performance vs a good team? Did I just see that shit?

How about some media fuck for once just standing up and saying "You know what? In retrospect the only decent win they had on paper was vs VT but we now know VT sucks monky balls too so...Miami was just shit this entire year after all."

 

[sandgk]

I'd like to keep this thread about the game - but facts are facts, there was a brawl - here is the last I'll post about the same. Doing this as it looks like the most complete and coherent write-up of the incidents leading to and following up after the Peach Bowl Punch-Up.

LINK

AFTER THE GAME
Postgame melee mars bowl
LSU receiver Dwayne Bowe reportedly swipes a ball from a UM ballboy, prompting a fight between the Tigers and Hurricanes.
BY RAY GLIER
Special to The Miami Herald
<!-- begin body-content --> ATLANTA - LSU wide receiver Dwayne Bowe, a junior from Miami, reportedly ignited a brawl between LSU and UM players moments after the end of the Peach Bowl when he took a football from a Hurricanes ballboy and started running toward the LSU locker room.
After Bowe took the ball, he was chased by a crowd of UM players who poured into a tunnel leading to the LSU locker room. There was shouting and pushing as police with riot control wands moved into the tunnel to try to quell the melee.
LSU fans in the stands above the tunnel threw ice and cups on the UM players during the scrum as assistant coaches from both teams tried to separate the teams.
When the crowd of players was pushed away out of the tunnel, Miami sophomore offensive lineman Andrew Bain was stretched out on the concrete in the tunnel laying on his stomach. Bain was finally helped to his feet, staggered for a moment, then walked back to the Miami sideline.
UM coach Larry Coker said receiver Khalil Jones also was knocked unconscious during the melee.
A Hurricanes official walking with Bain said an LSU player took his helmet off in the tunnel and swung it at the 6-3, 317-pound Bain and hit him in the helmet.
The same official said Bowe took the ball from a ballboy who was about 12 years old.
Asked afterwards if his team was justified in going after Bowe, Coker said, ``I don't think we're justified in anything like that.''
The melee around the Miami team did not end when the team got back into its locker room following the fight. About 10 minutes after the doors were closed for a team meeting, defensive linemen Baraka Atkins and Kareem Brown stormed out of the locker room and started walking down a hallway.
A UM assistant coach yelled ''get back in here'' as he chased them into the hallway. Atkins and Brown kept walking.
Georgia State Patrol officers started filling the hallway as other personnel with the Miami program went after Atkins and Brown and coaxed them back into the locker room.
''That certainly detracts from a great bowl game and what the spirit of college football is all about,'' UM athletic director Paul Dee said.

Just a thought - but would it not be wiser to have the opposing teams leave by different exits?

 

[coastalbuck]

"I don't know what happened and I don't condone it," Coker said.

Is is just me or is that one of the funnier quotes I've ever read. I wish I had an audio of that. Priceless!!!

Dumb ass quote number 2, these people are talented...

'That certainly detracts from a great bowl game and what the spirit of college football is all about,'' UM athletic director Paul Dee said.

 

[daddyphatsacs]

Why is it that nearly every brawl over the past few years has involved a Miami or FSU or Clemson? I have a hard time ever seeing a Jim Tressel coached team getting into a post game brawl. I'm not being condascending, but I just don't see it. I'm sure that there is more to the story, but both teams last night were too fucking cocky for what they were worth. What ever happened to laying down an ass whoopin with dignity?

 

[sandgk]

From the wikipedia bio on Coker - this may go away in nano-seconds.

Highlights

• Career Record: 53-9 (.855)
• Bowl Record: 3-2
• 2001 National Championship
• 5-1 record vs. Florida State
• 3-0 record vs. University of Florida
• 2002 American Football Monthly magazine National Coach of the Year
• 2001 Bear Bryant Coach of the Year
• 2001 AFCA Coach of the Year (Shared with Maryland coach Ralph Friedgen)
• Two-time Big East Conference Coach of the Year (2001, 2002)
• Has produced 16 first-round NFL draft picks in four NFL drafts, including a record 6 in 2004
• Has produced a total of 33 NFL draft picks during his tenure at Miami
• Coached Miami to its worst ever bowl defeat at the hands of the LSU Tigers on 12/30/2005, losing 40-3

 

[lvbuckeye]

RB - we dont have any game changer, we could swap rb's with Northwestern and you wouldnt even notice a difference

the thing is, Sutton is better than any RB on the Canes' roster...

Grassy is in total meltdown mode...

i'm rather amused at the whole thing; not only did the Canes get their ass kicked up and down the field, they lost the postgame brawl as well... so much for Cane swagger... there are rampant rumors of kids transferring and leaving early... this will only get worse as the Canes recruiting will take a hit...

and i have to repeat the the Canes managed only THREE total yards in the second half... THREE.

 

[sandgk]

the thing is, Sutton is better than any RB on the Canes' roster...

Grassy is in total meltdown mode...

i'm rather amused at the whole thing; not only did the Canes get their ass kicked up and down the field, they lost the postgame brawl as well... so much for Cane swagger... there are rampant rumors of kids transferring and leaving early... this will only get worse as the Canes recruiting will take a hit...

and i have to repeat the the Canes managed only THREE total yards in the second half... THREE.

Lets see Meltdown Mode Checklist -

• Throwing the coach(es) under the bus - check
• Blaming a redshirt Freshman QB - check
• Woeful predictions of a sub 0.500 season in 2006 - check
• Welcoming all under-performing 5* studs to leave the program - check
• Throwing all manner of players / playmakers under the bus - check
• Moaning about the Peach Bowl Punch-up ("our plyers got beat on and off the field {!?!}) - check
• Predicting loss of recruits incoming to LSU / FSU / FLA, others - check

Yep - I'd call it a total meltdown.

 

[crazybuckfan40]

the thing is, Sutton is better than any RB on the Canes' roster...

Grassy is in total meltdown mode...

i'm rather amused at the whole thing; not only did the Canes get their ass kicked up and down the field, they lost the postgame brawl as well... so much for Cane swagger... there are rampant rumors of kids transferring and leaving early... this will only get worse as the Canes recruiting will take a hit...

and i have to repeat the the Canes managed only THREE total yards in the second half... THREE.

Yeah that is the worst thing about it, the 3 yards in teh second half. Hell I could sneak the ball for at least 3 yards. Over a whole half.

And as for the swagger, it is gone, and as long as Coker is there we wont being hearing about them like we did in the 90's same with FSU.