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Pac 10 Overrated?

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an imbecility, a stupidity without name
Steve19 said:
Methomps, did a Big Ten team pull out on them and is that why Montana is there?
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According to Duck fans, Indiana backed out on them late in the process

LOL! Yea, Indiana has just dominated the Big Ten! Way to go out on a limb Oregon!!! You want to elevate your program, instead of paying for bulletin boards and lobbying.....strengthen your schedule like FSU did in their yearly years. Don't hire lobbyists!
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They followed the same formula you guys did: one tough game and two lesser opponents.

tOSU: Texas, SDSU, Miami(OH)
Floats: Fresno State, Indiana, Houston
 
methomps said:
They followed the same formula you guys did: one tough game and two lesser opponents.

tOSU: Texas, SDSU, Miami(OH)
Floats: Fresno State, Indiana, Houston
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I don't think I would compare Fresno to Texas. Also Miami(OH) would beat Indiana, and I dunno about a matchup with Houston vs. SDSU, but I believe that Oregon struggled with Houston.

Oregon had two games against good teams and they squeaked it out against Fresno and layed an egg against USC. They were both at home. We had two of our toughest games on the road and we went 1-1. Keep in mind Minny was also on the road and they are no slouch at home. They also beat scUM at scUM.

Also the Big Ten would woop on the Pac-10, so I think our schedule is a little better.
 
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methomps said:
According to Duck fans, Indiana backed out on them late in the process



They followed the same formula you guys did: one tough game and two lesser opponents.

tOSU: Texas, SDSU, Miami(OH)
Floats: Fresno State, Indiana, Houston
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seriously, did you just compare Fresno to Texas? your own team's BAD defense aside, Fresno State need not be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Texas OR Ohio State... in fact, i am fairly certain that Ohio State played Fresno State fairly recently... the result? 45-14 OHIO STATE. the last time USC played the Bulldogs (before this season) THEY LOST...

anyway, get the fuck out of here with that Fresno=Texas bullshit, because i'm not buying it... it is only out of respect for your (usually educated) opinion that i do not ding you...
 
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methomps said:
But...but..Indiana is part of that grueling, week-in week-out Big10 schedule through which USC would go winless.
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They were one of only 4 out of the 11 teams in the big ten that won't be going to a bowl game, and two of those teams finished with 5 wins. MSU and Purdue. Put them two in the pac-10 and I bet they both go to a bowl game. Purdue was 1-0 against the mighty giant killer zona. They also played OOC games against Notre Lame and Akron the Mac East Champs.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
seriously, did you just compare Fresno to Texas? your own team's BAD defense aside, Fresno State need not be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Texas OR Ohio State... in fact, i am fairly certain that Ohio State played Fresno State fairly recently... the result? 45-14 OHIO STATE. the last time USC played the Bulldogs (before this season) THEY LOST...
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Using that 'logic', the last time Oregon and Texas played: Oregon 35 Texas 30


lvbuckeye said:
anyway, get the fuck out of here with that Fresno=Texas bullshit, because i'm not buying it... it is only out of respect for your (usually educated) opinion that i do not ding you...
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I never said Fresno and Texas were the same. I said the formula was the same. tOSU was ranked top 10, so they played top 5 Texas and 2 easy teams. Oregon was ranked just outside the top 25, so they played #24 Fresno and 2 easy teams
 
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methomps said:
Using that 'logic', the last time Oregon and Texas played: Oregon 35 Texas 30




I never said Fresno and Texas were the same. I said the formula was the same. tOSU was ranked top 10, so they played top 5 Texas and 2 easy teams. Oregon was ranked just outside the top 25, so they played #24 Fresno and 2 easy teams
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the formula is NOT the same. not even close. Fresno is recently a decent WAC team, which battles Boise St for the WAC crown. Texas is traditionally a Top Ten team, who recruits 5* players every single year... Texas has players riding the pine who's jersey number would get retired in the Valley... look, i'm not taking anything away from Pat Hill- i think he's a fine coach, but you are on crack if Oregon knew that Fresno would be a good team when the schedule was made several years ago... When Ohio State and Texas finally inked the deal in '99, EVERYONE knew that it would be an awesome matchup of two perennial powers...

once again, the formula is not the same. Oregon got LUCKY that Fresno is good this year, otherwise, they'd just be beating up on another mid-major patsy in order to boost their winning percentage.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
look, i'm not taking anything away from Pat Hill- i think he's a fine coach, but you are on crack if Oregon knew that Fresno would be a good team when the schedule was made several years ago...
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This is the formula Oregon consistently schedules.

2004- Oklahoma, Indiana, Idaho
2003- Michigan, Nevada, Mississippi State

When Ohio State and Texas finally inked the deal in '99, EVERYONE knew that it would be an awesome matchup of two perennial powers...
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In 1999, Texas was not an awesome team.

99: preseason #17 final #21
98: preseason unranked final #15
97: preseason #12 final unranked

I don't really understand what we're arguing about anymore, to be honest. My main point is that claiming that Oregon should be punished for scheduling like pansies is BS because Oregon is not your SEC/KSU/TTech kinda scheduler.

I've never said that Oregon deserves tOSU's spot. I've said that Oregon deserves a spot, and it sucks that the Pac10 is always getting shafted on money.
 
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methomps said:
This is the formula Oregon consistently schedules.

2004- Oklahoma, Indiana, Idaho
2003- Michigan, Nevada, Mississippi State



In 1999, Texas was not an awesome team.

99: preseason #17 final #21
98: preseason unranked final #15
97: preseason #12 final unranked

I don't really understand what we're arguing about anymore, to be honest. My main point is that claiming that Oregon should be punished for scheduling like pansies is BS because Oregon is not your SEC/KSU/TTech kinda scheduler.

I've never said that Oregon deserves tOSU's spot. I've said that Oregon deserves a spot, and it sucks that the Pac10 is always getting shafted on money.
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ok... could rebut some more, but i'm over it...

at any rate, if the Horns don't quit fucking around out there with the Aggys, neither school will get a bid...
 
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methomps said:
Oregon is not the same team they were a month ago when they lost Clemons. That is part of the problem of using bowl performance as the 'final say'.
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Sorry, but when you only play one good team per year, that's the game that we have to rely on. What should we look at instead, how they "pummeled" inferior teams such as Washington, Washington St., Oregon St., and Arizona? Yeah, wins against those teams are VERY impressive.:roll1:
 
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methomps said:
They followed the same formula you guys did: one tough game and two lesser opponents.

tOSU: Texas, SDSU, Miami(OH)
Floats: Fresno State, Indiana, Houston
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Equating Fresno St. with UT is a joke. I'd say we scheduled one tough game, one mediocre game (Miami), and one lesser game. Oregon scheduled one slightly above mediocre game (Fresno), and two lesser games.
 
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