ScarletBlood31
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140-150 pounds was the average weight in my 8th grade class. Unless that elevator was filled with a bunch of light girls, I doubt that is an accurate average.
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140-150 pounds was the average weight in my 8th grade class. Unless that elevator was filled with a bunch of light girls, I doubt that is an accurate average.
TheStoicPaisano
But I didn't, so it doesn't
They showed a pic of the kid, he looked morbidly un-obese. He probably pulled the average down.
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[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Six elevators at Ohio State fail safety tests[/FONT]
COLUMBUS, Ohio Ohio State University is testing the elevators in all of its dorms after a freshman was pinned and killed by an elevator last Friday.
School officials say six elevators out of 29 checked so far have failed the safety tests.The school's director of facilities says all six elevators, including the one involved in the accident, had passed full-scale tests required every five years. That elevator's last full-scale test was conducted in 2003, and it passed three spot safety checks in the past year.Twenty-four people had crowded into the elevator on which the freshman from Pennsylvania was killed Friday night. Fire officials say the weight capacity of the elevator is 25-hundred-pounds but it was exceeded that night by as much as eleven-hundred pounds. Authorities haven't determined whether the extra weight caused a malfunction.
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Six elevators at Ohio State fail safety tests[/FONT]
COLUMBUS, Ohio Ohio State University is testing the elevators in all of its dorms after a freshman was pinned and killed by an elevator last Friday.
School officials say six elevators out of 29 checked so far have failed the safety tests.The school's director of facilities says all six elevators, including the one involved in the accident, had passed full-scale tests required every five years. That elevator's last full-scale test was conducted in 2003, and it passed three spot safety checks in the past year.Twenty-four people had crowded into the elevator on which the freshman from Pennsylvania was killed Friday night. Fire officials say the weight capacity of the elevator is 25-hundred-pounds but it was exceeded that night by as much as eleven-hundred pounds. Authorities haven't determined whether the extra weight caused a malfunction.
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More OSU elevators fail tests
Deadly elevator?s braking system proves faulty
Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Kathy Lynn Gray and Matt Tullis
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
The elevator that killed an Ohio State University freshman last week did not brake properly when it was overloaded during a test this week, experts said.
The results of the test, released yesterday, could explain why the elevator that Andy Polakowski and 23 others were riding Friday started to descend from the third floor of the Stradley Hall dormitory with its doors open. The elevator in the 11-story building crushed Polakowski to death when he tried to get off.
That elevator and five others in OSU high-rise dormitories were shut down Monday after the brake test was performed on 21 elevators in the highrises. The six that were shut down are identical; all began operating in 1958.
OSU has 47 more dormitory elevators to test and plans to complete those tests by next week, said Molly Ranz, director of facilities planning and support for the OSU Office of Student Affairs.
Elevators at Siebert Hall and Morrison, Taylor, Drackett and Jones towers all passed the brake tests.
Even if the Stradley elevator was too packed with students, the brakes should have kept the car from moving until some people got off, experts have said.
Mechanical brakes on elevators are supposed to operate properly even if an elevator is beyond its posted weight limit, and are tested at 25 percent beyond that limit, said Ed Donoghue, spokesman for the trade group National Elevator Industry Inc. An elevator should not descend even if it is overloaded.
But the static brake test performed after Polakowski?s death revealed that the braking system on that elevator worked properly only up to the elevator?s maximum load of 2,500 pounds, rather than the required maximum load plus 25 percent, which would be 3,190 pounds, said Norm Martin, chief elevator inspector for the Ohio Department of Commerce.
OSU police investigating the accident don?t know yet how much weight was on the elevator, but the Columbus Fire Division has estimated that it was overloaded by at least 800 pounds, which would put the weight on the elevator at 3,300 pounds.
Donoghue, however, said yesterday that it?s nearly impossible to put enough people onto a properly functioning elevator to make it move. He said people would have to climb on top of one another to do that if the brakes were working properly.
Of the six elevators that OSU has shut down, one each is in Park and Steeb dormitories and two each are in Smith and Stradley dormitories. All of those elevators had passed the static brake test the last time they were tested. The Steeb and Smith elevators were tested in early 2005; the Park and Stradley elevators were tested in 2003. The test is required by the state every five years.
Rich Hollingsworth, OSU interim vice president of student affairs, said the fact that an elevator fails the static brake test doesn?t mean it is unsafe. There also are other brakes and safety features to keep it from falling, he said.
Polakowski died after the roof of the elevator he was riding crushed him as he tried to get out onto the third floor. He became wedged between the floor and the elevator roof as the elevator descended.
OSU officials would not speculate yesterday on whether Polakowski would be alive if the elevator brakes had been working properly and would not say why they suspect the accident happened.
Polakowski was the last of 24 people to enter the 6-footby-6-foot elevator about 11:20 p.m. Friday. As he got on, the car began to descend with the doors open, OSU police have said.
Assistant Chief Rick Amweg said the students were not engaged in a prank and that alcohol was not a factor in the accident. He said the group was headed to a party off campus.
Complaints about OSU elevators are common.
A review of incident reports filed by the Abell/Irvin Elevator Service Co. for OSU elevators from Oct. 1 to Oct. 16 shows 14 incidents of elevators that were stuck; five elevators with malfunctioning doors; seven disabled elevators; and seven incidents of trapped passengers.
Prior reports were not immediately available to view, but Ranz said they showed that from Oct. 1, 2005, to Sept. 3, 2006, six service calls had been made to Stradley Hall for the elevator that crushed Polakowski.
Yesterday at Stradley, signs in the lobby?s windows proclaimed, "Welcome Home! Go Bucks!" and "Every 1 (heart?s) Stradley."
But the mood was decidedly less cheerful.
"It?s a lot quieter than it was," said freshman Josh Helms.
So quiet that freshman Krista Leeser wouldn?t stay in her dorm room for two days after the accident.
"There was no music," she said. "People weren?t hanging out. It was kind of creepy."
Stairwells are a lot more crowded in Stradley, as well as in other dorms on 11 th Avenue.
Smith Hall resident Joe Emberger said many students are afraid of the elevators since the accident. Emberger said he has taken the stairs to his 11 th-floor room a couple of times.
Emberger?s friend Todd Thompson said he has been leery of his building?s elevators since one closed on his arm as he tried to enter it.
"Five or six people walked in, and I was last, and the doors just closed," Thompson said. "I put my arm through it to keep it open, but it wouldn?t open back up."
Thompson said he had to jerk his arm out and wait for the next elevator. That was about a week ago, just before the Stradley Hall accident.
Helms said he?s often seen elevators so crowded that there?s no room for him.
"I didn?t get on because I figured something like that could happen," he said.
Thompson said an elevator in Smith Hall was stuck on the seventh floor two or three days ago. Leeser said she had two friends who were stuck earlier this year. Park Hall resident Paul Koop said several of his friends have been stuck on elevators.
More OSU elevators fail tests
Deadly elevator?s braking system proves faulty
Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Kathy Lynn Gray and Matt Tullis
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
The elevator that killed an Ohio State University freshman last week did not brake properly when it was overloaded during a test this week, experts said.
The results of the test, released yesterday, could explain why the elevator that Andy Polakowski and 23 others were riding Friday started to descend from the third floor of the Stradley Hall dormitory with its doors open. The elevator in the 11-story building crushed Polakowski to death when he tried to get off.
That elevator and five others in OSU high-rise dormitories were shut down Monday after the brake test was performed on 21 elevators in the highrises. The six that were shut down are identical; all began operating in 1958.
OSU has 47 more dormitory elevators to test and plans to complete those tests by next week, said Molly Ranz, director of facilities planning and support for the OSU Office of Student Affairs.
Elevators at Siebert Hall and Morrison, Taylor, Drackett and Jones towers all passed the brake tests.
Even if the Stradley elevator was too packed with students, the brakes should have kept the car from moving until some people got off, experts have said.
Mechanical brakes on elevators are supposed to operate properly even if an elevator is beyond its posted weight limit, and are tested at 25 percent beyond that limit, said Ed Donoghue, spokesman for the trade group National Elevator Industry Inc. An elevator should not descend even if it is overloaded.
But the static brake test performed after Polakowski?s death revealed that the braking system on that elevator worked properly only up to the elevator?s maximum load of 2,500 pounds, rather than the required maximum load plus 25 percent, which would be 3,190 pounds, said Norm Martin, chief elevator inspector for the Ohio Department of Commerce.
OSU police investigating the accident don?t know yet how much weight was on the elevator, but the Columbus Fire Division has estimated that it was overloaded by at least 800 pounds, which would put the weight on the elevator at 3,300 pounds.
Donoghue, however, said yesterday that it?s nearly impossible to put enough people onto a properly functioning elevator to make it move. He said people would have to climb on top of one another to do that if the brakes were working properly.
Of the six elevators that OSU has shut down, one each is in Park and Steeb dormitories and two each are in Smith and Stradley dormitories. All of those elevators had passed the static brake test the last time they were tested. The Steeb and Smith elevators were tested in early 2005; the Park and Stradley elevators were tested in 2003. The test is required by the state every five years.
Rich Hollingsworth, OSU interim vice president of student affairs, said the fact that an elevator fails the static brake test doesn?t mean it is unsafe. There also are other brakes and safety features to keep it from falling, he said.
Polakowski died after the roof of the elevator he was riding crushed him as he tried to get out onto the third floor. He became wedged between the floor and the elevator roof as the elevator descended.
OSU officials would not speculate yesterday on whether Polakowski would be alive if the elevator brakes had been working properly and would not say why they suspect the accident happened.
Polakowski was the last of 24 people to enter the 6-footby-6-foot elevator about 11:20 p.m. Friday. As he got on, the car began to descend with the doors open, OSU police have said.
Assistant Chief Rick Amweg said the students were not engaged in a prank and that alcohol was not a factor in the accident. He said the group was headed to a party off campus.
Complaints about OSU elevators are common.
A review of incident reports filed by the Abell/Irvin Elevator Service Co. for OSU elevators from Oct. 1 to Oct. 16 shows 14 incidents of elevators that were stuck; five elevators with malfunctioning doors; seven disabled elevators; and seven incidents of trapped passengers.
Prior reports were not immediately available to view, but Ranz said they showed that from Oct. 1, 2005, to Sept. 3, 2006, six service calls had been made to Stradley Hall for the elevator that crushed Polakowski.
Yesterday at Stradley, signs in the lobby?s windows proclaimed, "Welcome Home! Go Bucks!" and "Every 1 (heart?s) Stradley."
But the mood was decidedly less cheerful.
"It?s a lot quieter than it was," said freshman Josh Helms.
So quiet that freshman Krista Leeser wouldn?t stay in her dorm room for two days after the accident.
"There was no music," she said. "People weren?t hanging out. It was kind of creepy."
Stairwells are a lot more crowded in Stradley, as well as in other dorms on 11 th Avenue.
Smith Hall resident Joe Emberger said many students are afraid of the elevators since the accident. Emberger said he has taken the stairs to his 11 th-floor room a couple of times.
Emberger?s friend Todd Thompson said he has been leery of his building?s elevators since one closed on his arm as he tried to enter it.
"Five or six people walked in, and I was last, and the doors just closed," Thompson said. "I put my arm through it to keep it open, but it wouldn?t open back up."
Thompson said he had to jerk his arm out and wait for the next elevator. That was about a week ago, just before the Stradley Hall accident.
Helms said he?s often seen elevators so crowded that there?s no room for him.
"I didn?t get on because I figured something like that could happen," he said.
Thompson said an elevator in Smith Hall was stuck on the seventh floor two or three days ago. Leeser said she had two friends who were stuck earlier this year. Park Hall resident Paul Koop said several of his friends have been stuck on elevators.
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Reports: Dorm elevators overloaded, abused
POSTED: 7:59 a.m. EDT, October 27, 2006
var clickExpire = "11/26/2006"; COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- In the year before last week's fatal elevator accident at Ohio State University, service technicians received 22 reports of passengers trapped inside stuck elevators in four high-rise dormitories, according to reports released Thursday by the university.
Seven of those reports came from Stradley Hall, where freshman Andrew Polakowski, 18, suffocated Friday when he was pinned after trying to leave an elevator stuck between floors.
Four of those reports came from the elevator Polakowski was trying to exit. In three of those, the problem was blamed on either overloading or passengers jumping inside the elevator; the reports don't distinguish between the two.
The reports are histories of service requests from October 2005 to September and were compiled by Otis Elevator Co., which had the university service contract at the time. According to the reports, all the problems were fixed.
Fire officials said the Stradley elevator exceeded its 2,500-pound weight capacity by as much as 1,100 pounds when 24 people crowded onto it Friday night.
Polakowski was the last person in the group of students to enter the elevator on the third floor before it unexpectedly began to descend with the doors open, campus police said. He was pinned when he tried to escape through a gap between the top of the elevator doors and the third floor.
After the accident, six elevators in those four high-rise dormitories failed emergency brake tests, including both passenger elevators in Stradley Hall. Those are the only six that failed of the 41 elevators tested in all the university's high-rise dorms since the accident.
The six elevators that didn't pass brake tests had passed full-scale tests required every five years, including an August 2003 test that approved the elevator where the accident happened. That elevator also passed spot safety checks in December, June and July, officials said.
Ohio State has finished brake tests its high-rise dorms. Tests on low-rise dorms elevators were performed Thursday, and so far, no deficiencies were found, the university said. Officials planned to complete those inspections Friday.
Reports: Dorm elevators overloaded, abused
POSTED: 7:59 a.m. EDT, October 27, 2006
var clickExpire = "11/26/2006"; COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- In the year before last week's fatal elevator accident at Ohio State University, service technicians received 22 reports of passengers trapped inside stuck elevators in four high-rise dormitories, according to reports released Thursday by the university.
Seven of those reports came from Stradley Hall, where freshman Andrew Polakowski, 18, suffocated Friday when he was pinned after trying to leave an elevator stuck between floors.
Four of those reports came from the elevator Polakowski was trying to exit. In three of those, the problem was blamed on either overloading or passengers jumping inside the elevator; the reports don't distinguish between the two.
The reports are histories of service requests from October 2005 to September and were compiled by Otis Elevator Co., which had the university service contract at the time. According to the reports, all the problems were fixed.
Fire officials said the Stradley elevator exceeded its 2,500-pound weight capacity by as much as 1,100 pounds when 24 people crowded onto it Friday night.
Polakowski was the last person in the group of students to enter the elevator on the third floor before it unexpectedly began to descend with the doors open, campus police said. He was pinned when he tried to escape through a gap between the top of the elevator doors and the third floor.
After the accident, six elevators in those four high-rise dormitories failed emergency brake tests, including both passenger elevators in Stradley Hall. Those are the only six that failed of the 41 elevators tested in all the university's high-rise dorms since the accident.
The six elevators that didn't pass brake tests had passed full-scale tests required every five years, including an August 2003 test that approved the elevator where the accident happened. That elevator also passed spot safety checks in December, June and July, officials said.
Ohio State has finished brake tests its high-rise dorms. Tests on low-rise dorms elevators were performed Thursday, and so far, no deficiencies were found, the university said. Officials planned to complete those inspections Friday.
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tibor75
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"He was pinned when he tried to escape through a gap between the top of the elevator doors and the third floor."
seriously, what was he thinking?
Now, OSU and parents and the public are going to overreact because some idiot thought it was a good idea to jump out of a moving elevator.
seriously, what was he thinking?
Now, OSU and parents and the public are going to overreact because some idiot thought it was a good idea to jump out of a moving elevator.
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CleveBucks
Serenity now
From what I hear, since he was the last one in, there might not have been enough room in the elevator, or at least he didn't think he had enough room, so he tried to get out quickly.
we're talking about a 6x6 foot elevator with 24 people.
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Family to have expert examine elevator that killed OSU student
December 12, 2006 04:29 EST
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- Outside experts will examine a dormitory elevator that pinned and killed an Ohio State University freshman who tried to get off as it unexpectedly descended with its doors open.
Andrew Polakowski's family wants additional tests performed on the elevator in Stradley Hall to determine why it failed.
Attorney Tim Riley says the family hopes to have the elevator tested before the end of the year.
The 18-year-old Polakowski was killed October 20th.
Fire officials said the elevator was crowded with 24 people, exceeding its weight capacity by as much as eleven-hundred pounds.
State investigators said the elevator failed brake tests conducted after the accident and could not hold its 25-hundred-pound weight limit.
Family to have expert examine elevator that killed OSU student
December 12, 2006 04:29 EST
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- Outside experts will examine a dormitory elevator that pinned and killed an Ohio State University freshman who tried to get off as it unexpectedly descended with its doors open.
Andrew Polakowski's family wants additional tests performed on the elevator in Stradley Hall to determine why it failed.
Attorney Tim Riley says the family hopes to have the elevator tested before the end of the year.
The 18-year-old Polakowski was killed October 20th.
Fire officials said the elevator was crowded with 24 people, exceeding its weight capacity by as much as eleven-hundred pounds.
State investigators said the elevator failed brake tests conducted after the accident and could not hold its 25-hundred-pound weight limit.
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