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t_BuckeyeScott;627337; said:
This is one game where I might once again enjoy a friend of ours prediction: XrayRandy. If I knew where he posts I might consider going to find it. The question I have: Is he predicting a 35 point victory for Texas?
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He posts under the name RayDog on hornfans.com - and has not issued a prediction for this game.

Now, I ask you, what would you have given for the odds on that silence?
 
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First of all, you didn't answer any of my comparison questions with OSU.
OregonBuckeye;627392; said:
It really isn't this hard to understand. There's a difference between talent and athleticism.
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What exactly is your definition of athleticism?
Oregon has a couple guys who run a 4.4 40. Doesn't mean they can run routes like Gonzo or make the same catches that Ginn can.
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So because the two of them run 4.4's, it somehow puts them on the same level of athleticism as Ginn & Gonzo? Ginn is probably the best athlete in football. Gonzalez has tremendous speed, body control & has solid strength as well. Strictly from a 40 yd dash standpoint, Ginn & Gonzo are thought to be in the 4.3's (or less, depending on the timer).
And yes, Stewart is a better athlete than Young.
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How so?
 
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jwinslow;627433; said:
First of all, you didn't answer any of my comparison questions with OSU.What exactly is your definition of athleticism?So because the two of them run 4.4's, it somehow puts them on the same level of athleticism as Ginn & Gonzo? Ginn is probably the best athlete in football. Gonzalez has tremendous speed, body control & has solid strength as well. Strictly from a 40 yd dash standpoint, Ginn & Gonzo are thought to be in the 4.3's (or less, depending on the timer).
How so?
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I didn't answer any of your comparison questions? Read my post again.

I was using "a couple players run a 4.4" as an example. You weren't supposed to take it literally. It's like Player X is equally as fast as Player Y but he doesn't catch as many deep passes.

Stewart is better because he's bigger, stronger(this is actually just an assumption. I know Stewart's weight room stats but not Young's), and probably just as fast(ran a 4.34 40 timed by the Oregon coaches).
 
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All you said was they ran 4.4's... that wasn't very conclusive to me. Do they have the same body control, agility, etc as Ginn & Gonzalez? RB is the only position I see where Oregon is on the same level athletically. Your QB is athletic, but I wouldn't put him on the level of Smith athletically. I haven't watched your OL enough to speak conclusively, but I don't remember being impressed the way I am with Boone, Datish & Barton.
 
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jwinslow;627454; said:
All you said was they ran 4.4's... that wasn't very conclusive to me. Do they have the same body control, agility, etc as Ginn & Gonzalez? RB is the only position I see where Oregon is on the same level athletically. Your QB is athletic, but I wouldn't put him on the level of Smith athletically. I haven't watched your OL enough to speak conclusively, but I don't remember being impressed the way I am with Boone, Datish & Barton.
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I'm not talking about talent. OSU blows Oregon away in terms of talent.
 
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Can Mack beat OU without Vince Young?

Texas ended 5-year skid last season, but gamebreaking QB is gone

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DALLAS - By beating Oklahoma last year, the Texas Longhorns made life a lot more pleasant for themselves this week. Finally free from the choke-hold of their long losing streak to the Sooners, they avoided the endless questions of whether coach Mack Brown would ever be able to beat his nemesis from across the Red River.
Darn the Longhorns? luck, though. As the latest installment of this rivalry approaches Saturday, a new question is looming: Can they do it without Vince Young?
Seventh-ranked Texas has won four of the five games in the post-Young era, but that one loss was against No. 1 Ohio State. Until Brown and his new quarterback, redshirt freshman Colt McCoy, beat a ranked team ? perhaps especially No. 14 Oklahoma ? Young?s shadow will continue to linger.
?There?s no denying, (without) Vince Young back there it?s just different,? Sooners coach Bob Stoops said earlier this week.
McCoy was on the sideline for Texas? 45-12 victory over Oklahoma last year, so he has some experience with the hoopla and excitement surrounding this game. Most importantly, he saw how well Young handled it all.
?He was calm, he was collected, he never seemed to let things get to him. He just went out there and played,? said McCoy, who has done much of the same since losing to the Buckeyes, completing 83 percent of his passes for 514 yards, five touchdowns and one interception.
The Sooners (3-1) come in still fuming over their referee-marred loss at Oregon and none too pleased about having spent the last year watching Texas soak up much of the glory that had been theirs lately. It was a harsh turnaround for Oklahoma fans considering all the different ways OU embarrassed UT the previous five years.
Stoops has had a lot more to worry about the last 12 months than losing his grip on Brown and the Longhorns. Beating Texas wouldn?t erase everything that?s gone wrong ? but it sure would help, especially since it would clear the biggest obstacle to winning the Big 12 South.
?It?s a big boost,? Stoops said. ?But in the end, you still have a lot of football games to play.?
Because each team lost once on the way to the Cotton Bowl, some of the luster is gone from the 101st installment of this unique game played at the center of the State Fair of Texas.
It?s the first time since 1999 without at least one undefeated team, and it?s first time since 2000 that neither is ranked among the top five. Both enjoyed that lofty status three of the last four years.
Still, there?s plenty on the line.
Only one team will come out of this still on the fringe of the national title chase, plus there?s the Golden Hat trophy and a year?s worth of bragging rights that always goes to the winner.
?Each of us could be 0-4 and we would still play as hard as we could because it?s not about the record, it?s about getting that hat,? Longhorns center Lyle Sendlein said.
Young only went 1-1 as a starter against the Sooners, even getting shut out in his debut. However, he never lost again. To anyone.
Winning at Ohio State last September was big, but beating Oklahoma was bigger. The Longhorns unleashed plenty of pent-up frustrations that afternoon, and the feeling wasn?t limited to the guys on the field.
Texas fans savored watching Oklahoma fans leave early for a change, then sang a proud rendition of the ?Eyes of Texas.? The orange end of the stadium ? which is always split 50-50, right at midfield ? was still full long after time expired, with players joining the postgame party.
The cheerful mood continued this week in Austin.
?They know they can win,? Brown said. ?(There?s) no ?taboo, they?ve got our number.? ... The truth is, it should be an even game. You look at just about everything from offense to defense. It?s a toss up. That will make it fun.?
Both teams should be fresh: The Sooners had a bye last week and the Longhorns had the next best thing, a 56-3 victory over Division I-AA Sam Houston State despite having held out several star players nursing minor injuries.
The game could come down to how Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson does.
Two years ago, the Texas native ran for 225 yards and the Sooners won. Last year, slowed by an ankle problem, he carried three times for 10 yards and Oklahoma lost.
He?s healthy and off to a terrific start this season.
?There?s no question we?re a much different football team coming into the game than we were a year ago,? Stoops said. ?Adrian Peterson?s healthy. That changes everything.?
Vince Young being in the NFL might change everything, too.
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Peterson lost his balance, and on his way to the ground he touched the ball down (which popped it loose). Does the 'ground cannot cause a fumble' rule not apply in that scenario?
 
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Texas has not impressed on offense in the first half. Only 85 yards total offense versus over 175 for Oklahoma. Mack Brown needs to get these guys heads sorted out and they need to come out and execute in the second half.
 
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