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OK State by the numbers

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Jaxbuck

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I know some rough previews of the other OSU have been floating around so if this needs to be merged somewhere, I apologize.

NCAA rank/raw number for OK State

Offense
Rushing....8th/245 ypg
Passing....111th/144.1 ypg
Passing effeciency....8th/156.82 passer rating
Total O....45th/389.08 ypg
Scoring....15th/34.55 ppg

Never seen a game of theirs but its pretty clear by these numbers they are a one dimensional team that runs the ball exceptionally well. As is to be expected with a great running team they don't pass much, but when they do they are very effecient with it. 35 points per game is a ton.

Defense
Rushing....70th/170.2 ypg
Passing....73rd/225.45 ypg
Scoring....49th/24.4 ppg
Total D....73rd/395.64 ypg

Now we start to see why they have the record they do. Anyway you slice it this is a bad defense.

Special Teams and Intangibles
TO margin....1/1.64 per game
Fewest Penalties per game....T3rd/4.27 penalties per game

Their hidden weapon. Win the TO battle and few penalties is a sure fire recipie for success. You can tell they have B10 blood in their coaches veins.

Punt Return Yardage Defense....73rd/10.39 yds per return and 1 TD
Now here's one that just might come back to haunt them.

Overall it looks like we match up pretty well with them. They rely on help from the other team in the form of TO's and penalties to offset that poor defense. If we keep Lydell on the bench and thereby eliminate fumbles while continuing the late season offensive growth we should be ok. As always it looks like TG2 could be a huge factor in the punt return game.

Of course the flipside is if they can keep long sustained drives or play on a short field due to TO's/innefective offense, then it will be a long night as our defense is prone to wearing out.

All in all, I like our chances with a team that lines up and just runs the ball.

Any thoughts?
 
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Punt Return Yardage Defense....73rd/10.39 yds per return and 1 TD
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They lost their best return man, Darrent Williams, in week 4 with a broken arm. He is supposed to be back for the Alamo. Before the injury, he had 9 returns for 249 yds and 1 TD...that is a 27.7 average. Prentiss Elliott took over and managed 1 TD himself, but is not nearly the playmaker Williams can be.
 
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osugrad21 said:
They lost their best return man, Darrent Williams, in week 4 with a broken arm. He is supposed to be back for the Alamo. Before the injury, he had 9 returns for 249 yds and 1 TD...that is a 27.7 average. Prentiss Elliott took over and managed 1 TD himself, but is not nearly the playmaker Williams can be.
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In the words of Corso...."Not so fast my friend." PE might not be the playmaker DW is, but thats not saying a whole lot because of the level DW is on. PE is quite the playmaker though. Also remember that DW's stats came in lesser quality opponents, while PE's return numbers came against Big XII competition.

If you'd guys like to see a nice side by side comparison of "by the numbers" check out Bowl Central on our site.

http://www.o-state.com
 
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WangHo said:
In the words of Corso...."Not so fast my friend." PE might not be the playmaker DW is, but thats not saying a whole lot because of the level DW is on. PE is quite the playmaker though. Also remember that DW's stats came in lesser quality opponents, while PE's return numbers came against Big XII competition.
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No doubt Elliot is a player, but Williams' 27.7yds/return is a big difference from Elliott's 11.1/return. Elliott is still a pup so the experience of Williams is a huge factor also. Not cracking on PE at all, but he is not as dangerous as Holmes IMO and certainly not Ginn. Now Williams may be another argument in that aspect...

If Williams does not get hurt, I would guess the Pokes are not playing in the Alamo and OU is possibly not undefeated.
 
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JWil said:
Dude, you're looking at just the numbers. He's a phenominal talent. I'll take my chances with him returning stuff.

And please don't call us Okie. Don't make me use "ohhowIhate." lol
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Well wouldn't the numbers make for a good comparison? If potential was a key comparison, every D1 team would have a valid argument based on opinion. Numbers reflect results.

And who called you Okie? I meant the Pokes might have ruined OU's season again...

And don't call me dude :biggrin:
 
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That stat was OSU's punt return DEFENSE. They rank in the bottom 1/3 of the NCAA in stopping punt returners. We have the nations top punt returner in TG2.

When looking at matchup problems that one really jumped out at me in our favor.

Nuge is obviously an advantage over anyone else so I didn't list place kicking. We also look to have an edge on paper in Punting and defending both Punt and Kickoff returns.

All in all, I think going into the game we have an advantage in every facet of special teams play.

BTW that side by side on their site is great. No analysis but a tremendous job of laying out the data.
 
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Keep in mind that these are just numbers, guys. Analyzing stats is easy, but breaking down the team from the start of the season to now is a totally different beast. At the beginning of the year we were all afraid that Donovan Woods's throwing ability might cost us some games, yet at the end of the season all Cowboy fans were saying to each other "Boy, we really should have thrown it more against Texas Tech." The stats may not show it, but Donovan has developed into much more of a passing threat than many people gave him credit for at the beginning of the season. Against Oklahoma's vaunted defense, Donovan did an incredible job (considering that he's a redshirt freshman) and his long incomplete pass to Prentiss Elliot in double coverage near the end of the game was just off of PE's fingertips.

Vernand Morency is still the key to the offense, though. Rushing is always where Oklahoma State football begins and ends, as getting off to a fast start on the ground is always a goal in each game.
 
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I don't remember ever having punt coverage problems this year. I mean, if you look at it by pure numbers... We allow a little over 2 yards per return more than your OSU team allows.

We have one of the best punters in the Big XII, who also happens to be the nations BEST kickoff man.

Our special teams has been near the top in the nation (probably top 10/15) since Miles came to Stillwater.

BTW: Here are the numbers from the game, side to side...

http://www.o-state.com/bowl-central/2004/12/17/alamo-bowl-by-the-numbers
 
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WangHo - Sorry you didn't enjoy the game much tonight - OK, not really.

But thanks for contributing to this board, and here's hoping the Cowboys tear it up in the Big-12 in 2005.
 
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