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Game Thread Ohio State vs Army, 09/16/17 @ 4:30 ET (FOX)

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1926Buckeyes said:
Not excited for this game. Either OSU comes out and eins by 50 and it gives the coaches a fslse sense of improvement, or it's a close game and this will be a very long season.

In an ideal world, OSU gets a 14 point kead right off the nat and Haskins is rotated in early with the ones to get a good look at him.
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Echoes my thoughts perfectly. Only way I get pumped for this game is if Haskins gets the nod or if Burrow is healthy enough to start. Watching JT roll up 300 yards against a crap defense doesn't really get me going.
 
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bukIpower said:
Things I'd love to see but I know I won't.....

1. Move Arnette to safety and play Okudah instead.

2. Move ward to nickleback to cover slot guys and play Wade

3. Play 5 defensive lineman at the same time since this is army

4. Run the ball 75% of the time and try to be opportunistic

5. Get JT some confidence with a few touch passes early to help him feel good.

6. Eliminate 83 and 14 from the rotation on offense. Play Victor, Mack and Parris more. Even Dixon other then his one big catch and run hasn't been noticeable through two games.

7. Stop motioning the back out of the backfield and instead motion folks INTO the backfield

8. Stay out of Kevin Wilson's way and let him call the offense

9. Run the ball in the red zone

10. Don't lose by 2 touchdowns
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11. Two Te sets like in 2014 with Heuerman and Vannett
 
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I'm not an advocate for changing much regarding secondary personnel. Most of the big stuff is from blown communication, not lack of ability. When things work the way they're supposed to, the corner play is quite good. The problem is that these guys are all young, even the ones with some experience, and there's very little rapport established at the moment. Constantly screwing with the guys and their positioning is only going to make that worst. If anything, they need to decrease the rotation and let people figure things out, especially when you're entering a three game stretch where, knock on wood, you can afford to do that.

You can talk about the talent that left after last season all you want but the biggest thing we lost was having the same personnel consistently. You can play the platooning is a positive thing card all you want to but all it does is decrease the number of extremely valuable reps for the best players and cause situations where they all overthink things out of fear of being swapped out. I'm sure all of the corners get along and support each other but at the end of the day all of these guys want to be on the field and if you're trying to say you have 5 starting corners or whatever BS, you're just putting yourself in a situation where they're all passive out of fear of losing playing time.

What I think we're seeing is the secondary becoming a victim of its own success in the sense that they're worried about the turnover and want to get more guys involved so that if 2 or 3 leave after this year, they have guys coming off the bench with experience. That's all well and good but you don't put yourself in a position of being an elite defense/team if you go that route.

And yes, I understand that the rotation at DL works, but that's a completely different animal.
 
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Onebuckfan said:
11. Two Te sets like in 2014 with Heuerman and Vannett
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Honestly very good idea... if our WRs are going to suck then put another big body in to give us another body to push folks around with. They're also better with play action too but it will never happen.


Dammit now I'm sad we wont do any of these changes... instead we have to watch JT throw check dows, watch KJ work himself out of a first down and a dropped touchdown by any or all of our WRs.
 
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bukIpower said:
I hate that we will think we are awesome when we beat Army 52 to 7... can't stand that we will have to hear about improved this and that.
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This isn't the Army program that lost 15 straight to Navy. Unlike most teams, they will not quit when down by 21. They will take lots of time off the clock in their possessions that will also keep the score closer.
 
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cincibuck said:
This isn't the Army program that lost 15 straight to Navy. Unlike most teams, they will not quit when down by 21. They will take lots of time off the clock in their possessions that will also keep the score closer.
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Oh I have no doubt they'll probably approach 250-300 yards rushing but even our offense should put some points.

Also the fact that they don't throw the ball is about the best thing possible right now for this defense
 
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lvbuckeye said:
On the third and seven that basically ended the game, JT threw short to Hill, who then ran towards the sideline. Dixon was wide open in the middle of the field. He possibly would have scored. There wasn't a defender within seven yards.
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I'm not surprised... against IU go back and watch the incomplete throw into the end zone to Baugh. Dobbins had no one within 10 yards of him in the flats but instead we throw it into the end zone hoping for Baugh to do something he's never done before which is go up and get a pass
 
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This team is seriously disappointing so far. Proof that you can't just throw a bunch of talent at the wall and have it stick year in and year out; Saban seems to do it, but it's clear that coaching is a factor, and their coaching must be superior seeing as they recruit similar levels of talent as us yet somehow have had much more success on the field.

Anyways, here's to hoping the Oklahoma loss brings this team together like in 2014 and we go on another magical run and make this thing interesting. Otherwise, as someone else said, it's going to be a long ass season and an even longer offseason.
 
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The biggest thing they need to do on Saturday is get an early lead and get the front 7 starters on the defense out of the game as quick as possible because those cheap blocks in the triple option are bound to get someone hurt.
 
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