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Some of you guys seem to be under the very mistaken impression that there is top-tier NIL money behind OSU basketball. In comparison to the landscape of college hoops, there is no chance OSU is spending money in the same ballpark as the blue bloods. Cooper Flagg made $28 million in NIL at Duke last season - OSU basketball is never going to compete with that. We literally have guys leaving the team and/or choosing other schools for NIL every year - and these aren't just guys who would help the team, these are players that actually started at OSU or obviously would start at OSU. That hurts your team's ceiling bigtime when NIL is keeping you from fielding an appropriate starting 5 every year. When there isn't enough money behind OSU basketball to field a top-tier starting 5, you have to start coming to grips with reality and understand there's no move you can make with the coaching staff to correct the underlying problem. The NIL money is mostly behind the football program, plain and simple.
 
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DZ83CK said:
Some of you guys seem to be under the very mistaken impression that there is top-tier NIL money behind OSU basketball. In comparison to the landscape of college hoops, there is no chance OSU is spending money in the same ballpark as the blue bloods. Cooper Flagg made $28 million in NIL at Duke last season - OSU basketball is never going to compete with that. We literally have guys leaving the team and/or choosing other schools for NIL every year - and these aren't just guys who would help the team, these are players that actually started at OSU or obviously would start at OSU. That hurts your team's ceiling bigtime when NIL is keeping you from fielding an appropriate starting 5 every year. When there isn't enough money behind OSU basketball to field a top-tier starting 5, you have to start coming to grips with reality and understand there's no move you can make with the coaching staff to correct the underlying problem. The NIL money is mostly behind the football program, plain and simple.
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Exactly this.
 
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DZ83CK said:
Some of you guys seem to be under the very mistaken impression that there is top-tier NIL money behind OSU basketball. In comparison to the landscape of college hoops, there is no chance OSU is spending money in the same ballpark as the blue bloods. Cooper Flagg made $28 million in NIL at Duke last season - OSU basketball is never going to compete with that. We literally have guys leaving the team and/or choosing other schools for NIL every year - and these aren't just guys who would help the team, these are players that actually started at OSU or obviously would start at OSU. That hurts your team's ceiling bigtime when NIL is keeping you from fielding an appropriate starting 5 every year. When there isn't enough money behind OSU basketball to field a top-tier starting 5, you have to start coming to grips with reality and understand there's no move you can make with the coaching staff to correct the underlying problem. The NIL money is mostly behind the football program, plain and simple.
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I don't think most of us are expecting a constant high ceiling but is it too much to ask to make the tournament somewhat consistently? Or at least not to constantly stumble away games against bad teams like Pitt?

I just don't think Diebler as a basketball coach purely is good enough, he's not really doing much to show us that he's not just a continuation of his former boss

If you can't win the major NIL battles you need a coach who can get the best out of that next wave of players. I do not think Diebler is that coach.
 
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Thought that the Buckeyes dug themselves a hole against Pitt, and rebounded well enough to be up in the last two minutes. On the last play, seemed like Minor (or whomever) it was, was left alone, not even trying to make him go around, rather than through the Buckeyes. Hard loss for our guys, hopefully will make them a better team. One other point, tOSU was down by 14, and only had two fouls. After halftime, had 8 fouls, and were up by four. Gotta be a lesson in this somewhere.....
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
I don't think most of us are expecting a constant high ceiling but is it too much to ask to make the tournament somewhat consistently? Or at least not to constantly stumble away games against bad teams like Pitt?

I just don't think Diebler as a basketball coach purely is good enough, he's not really doing much to show us that he's not just a continuation of his former boss

If you can't win the major NIL battles you need a coach who can get the best out of that next wave of players. I do not think Diebler is that coach.
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agreed....if Tennessee and Florida can be in the tourney almost yearly, then OSU can make it at least every other year. I fully realize Ohio doesn't have the talent in state that many states close to our size do. Perhaps the cycle will change someday. We don't even play in the top 2 or 3 of tough conferences.

I was all in on Diebler but I'm now all out. He just doesn't have it and it's obvious to me. He doesn't even seem to be average.....and I'm shocked about that. Smith let OSU drift too long under Holtmann and I'm afraid if Diebler is our coach next year then it will be even harder to drum up NIL support for JD's replacement in '26-'27
 
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