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Game Thread Ohio State @ Penn State - 09/29/18, 7:30PM (ABC)

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The point about Tate was that try something to get it going. I agree though on 4th and inches just QB sneek it!
While Haskins is shotgun for 4th and short, why not try a quick, short pass for some of those attempts? Haskins is deadeye accurate before pressure gets to him, so I think it would be worth the risk, and maybe better odds of converting than running/sneaking against 9 crashing defenders who know exactly what's coming. If the defense keys on the QB or RB run it could go for a huge gain, as well.
 
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I'm not so sure it was a bad call as much as a bad read. You have to imagine that was an RPO, and with 3 seconds left on the play clock, the read was to hand it to the RB. Then our LBs did an insane shift, Chase stunted, and I collapsed into tears. I would love for somebody who knows Xs and Os to diagram what their OLine saw when those players went into that shift.....because to me that was next level.
Watching live, I thought that it was a zone read, but reviewing the film it definitely looks like an RPO:



Penn State has trips left, with the two outer WRs apparently blocking for a potential WR screen.

Jordan Fuller attacks the third WR like a heating-seeking missile - he would've blown up the screen pass for a loss as well.

Also note that Dre'Mont Jones totally beats his man and gets into the passing lane.

Penn State's tackles (#52 and #71) essentially whiff on their blocks (Chase Young and Dre'Mont Jones will do that to you) and their left guard (#74) is literally blocking nobody (watch him spin around at the end of the play, lol).

Instead of releasing into the flat, Penn State's 6-foot-7 tight end is blocking cornerback Jeffrey Okudah - he wins the block, but so what? Why not take advantage of the size mismatch in single coverage (OSU safety Jahsen Wint was playing deep and rotating toward the trips). Penn State had had success throwing to the TE earlier in the game.

Because of the penetration from Jones outside and Young inside on a stunt which beat/confused the majority of Penn State's offensive line, one LB (Borland?) is unblocked, the other LB (Werner) pretty much beats his block by the center, and end Johnathon Cooper is also unblocked as he drifts off the line into the center of the field in a sort of zone-blitz look. So even if Young would've missed on the tackle, Ohio State had three defenders ready to mop up the running play short of the sticks.

In sum, it was a pretty dumb play call that Ohio State defensed more or less perfectly.
 
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Notice how quiet that place is now.

Another TD drive would make it even quieter.

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FIVE THINGS: BUCKEYES RALLY TO VICTORY AMID WHITEOUT CONDITIONS

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Trailing 26-14 with 8:00 left in the fourth quarter in the loudest venue in college football, Ohio State and quarterback Dwayne Haskins somehow managed to put it all together with two touchdowns down the stretch – with an assist from Penn State – to escape State College with a miraculous 27-26 victory.

Ohio State receivers Ben Victor and K.J. Hill turned in clutch plays, taking advantage of outstanding downfield blocking to find the end zone on 47-yard and 24-yard jaunts for six in the closing minutes and Chase Young and Dre'Mont Jones were absolutely unstoppable in leading the defense to stops with the game hanging in the balance.

It truly wasn't pretty for about 45 of the 60 minutes but in the end Urban Meyer's crew earned the biggest win of any team through the first month of the season and gave itself the inside track in the Big Ten East which is job one on the way to a possible berth in the college football playoff.

The win was Ohio State's third in the last four tries against James Franklin's outfit and moved Meyer to 48-3 in Big Ten games since 2012.

With that, here are Five Things from last night's thriller in Beaver Stadium.

"YOU POKING THE WRONG LION BUDDY.."
Penn State defensive lineman Shareef Miller's pregame bulletin board material suggesting Haskins would fold if hit enough times looked like it might ring true as the signal-caller completed just 7-of-16 passes for 62 yards with a touchdown and an interception in the face of constant first half pressure but to his credit, the redshirt sophomore responded to the challenge over the final 30 minutes of game time.

With his team trailing 13-7 at the break and 26-14 midway through the fourth quarter, Haskins was spectacular down the stretch completing 15-of-23 throws for 208 yards and two touchdowns in the second half including a masterful 7-of-10 tosses for 138 and both of those touchdowns in the final quarter of action.

The fourth quarter domination included leading a 96-yard scoring drive by completing 3-of-5 throws for 73 yards, the final 24 coming via the game-winning hook-up with Hill.

After a first half in which Haskins couldn't lead Ohio State to more than 25 yards on any of its nine possessions, he engineered touchdown drives of 75, 75 and 96 yards in the second half.

Haskins was far from perfect – looking completely shook in the first half – but he stepped up before it was too late and this experience should serve him well down the road.

FLAGS, ERRORS AND GAFFES
Despite picking up the win, Ohio State made more than enough mistakes to lose and probably should have.

Penalties continued to be a ridiculous issue as the Buckeyes posted 10 accepted penalties tallying 105 yards. Entering the game as the nation's 105th-most penalized team averaging 8.0 per game, the Buckeyes upped the ante Saturday night, dropping their ranking to No. 113 with 8.4 flags per game.

It looked like the costliest of them all might be a Luke Farrell facemask that wiped out a Sean Nuernberger 33-yard field goal putting OSU in front 17-13 with 6:17 left in the third quarter. Naturally, Nuernberger missed a 48-yard reboot.

Fellow tight end Rashod Berry, who came in to the game unofficially leading the Buckeyes in penalties, continued shooting his team in the foot with a dropped pass that fell into the arms of Penn State's Garrett Taylor for an interception leading directly to a field goal.

For all the hype heaped upon Ohio State's collective tight ends in preseason – I know I was guilty of thinking Berry could be a breakout player – the group has failed to deliver. Through five games, the trio of Berry, Farrell and Jeremy Ruckert has four catches for 38 yards and two touchdowns along with at least five penalties.

The defense also made its share of mistakes, the biggest coming on the second 93-yard touchdown given up this year as Shaun Wade got beat on a slant and Isaiah Pryor, among others, took a fatal angle on Penn State burner K.J. Hamler. The Silver Bullets' penchant for giving up big plays rolled on as they surrendered three pass plays of 30+ yards and 10 rushing plays of 10+ yards, eight of which came from quarterback Trace McSorley.

Obviously, everyone will take a 5-0 record but constant flags and defensive lapses will eventually bite this team if not addressed.

RUSH TO JUDGMENT
Ohio State's rushing attack hasn't been its usual dominant self this season but many thought that would change against a Penn State defense ranked just No. 82 against the run yielding nearly 173 yards per game.

Instead, the Buckeyes put up a fourth-straight game of declining yards per carry – this time finishing at 3.2 yards per tote – and their 119 total rushing yards served as the fewest in a game since the 88 yards gained as Clemson doled out a 31-0 suffocation in the 2016 Orange Bowl. And even in that spanking the Buckeyes averaged 3.8 per carry.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...mid-whiteout-conditions-ohio-state-penn-state
 
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Watching live, I thought that it was a zone read, but reviewing the film it definitely looks like an RPO:



Penn State has trips left, with the two outer WRs apparently blocking for a potential WR screen.

Jordan Fuller attacks the third WR like a heating-seeking missile - he would've blown up the screen pass for a loss as well.

Also note that Dre'Mont Jones totally beats his man and gets into the passing lane.

Penn State's tackles (#52 and #71) essentially whiff on their blocks (Chase Young and Dre'Mont Jones will do that to you) and their left guard (#74) is literally blocking nobody (watch him spin around at the end of the play, lol).

Instead of releasing into the flat, Penn State's 6-foot-7 tight end is blocking cornerback Jeffrey Okudah - he wins the block, but so what? Why not take advantage of the size mismatch in single coverage (OSU safety Jahsen Wint was playing deep and rotating toward the trips). Penn State had had success throwing to the TE earlier in the game.

Because of the penetration from Jones outside and Young inside on a stunt which beat/confused the majority of Penn State's offensive line, one LB (Borland?) is unblocked, the other LB (Werner) pretty much beats his block by the center, and end Johnathon Cooper is also unblocked as he drifts off the line into the center of the field in a sort of zone-blitz look. So even if Young would've missed on the tackle, Ohio State had three defenders ready to mop up the running play short of the sticks.

In sum, it was a pretty dumb play call that Ohio State defensed more or less perfectly.


Nailed it.

They called the play that gave them the best odds (3 options) and had been working all night.

OSU defensive coaches simply knew it was coming and had their guys in position to defend it perfectly.

What else are you going to do there? McSorley is a 50/50 downfield passer when he's in the pocket and he would have had Chase Young in his lap instantly. Sometimes you just get beat, tip your cap and move on.
 
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Penn State-Ohio State draws huge overnight rating to become highest-rated game of the season

Penn State's dramatic 27-26 loss at the hands of Ohio State on Saturday night is the highest-rated game of the college football season, ESPN announced on Sunday.

The 6.1 rating, which spiked to 8.2 during the final quarter, is among the best numbers ABC/ESPN has ever recorded dating back to 2004, a release said, and it also called the broadcast rating number the best since Kickoff Weekend in 2017.

The overnight rating is a metric designed to track how many people with television sets nationwide are tuned in to a particular program.

According to ESPN, Columbus had the largest overnight rating followed by Dayton, Cleveland, and Cincinnati. The highest-rated Pennsylvania market was Pittsburgh.

Entire article: https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2018/09/penn_state-ohio_state_draws_hu.html

Also: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...e-earns-highest-television-rating-of-the-year
 
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Buckyle said:
I lost faith in BP. The negativity is just too much sometimes

215 pages. Longest game thread ever minus the Texas 2005 pregame post padding.

You negative nancies suck the life out of me.

QFT

Last year, I made the decision to stop coming to BP during games, because of the negative shit. Arch was the main culprit I recall, and 001 was the same as he is now.

People need to stop complaining about negativity or people overreacting. The fact is a large majority of this game the team looked really bad. Victor pulled a miracle out of his ass, and we put together about two complete drives all game

I love BP, and I enjoy so many of you guys. This shit definitely colors it differently though.

I have learned to enjoy watching the Buckeyes regardless of outcome, because I only get to see them 12-15 times a year. But doing it on BP is no longer possible for me.
 
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I'm gonna go out on a limb against the talking heads... I'm not an X's and O's guy, but rewatch that 4th-and-5 play. It actually wasn't a bad call, straight-up.

Think about it... PSU was prepared to gamble that we couldn't stop them at the line. Not a bad gamble given that we hadn't been able to do consistently all game. What's impressive is that we anticipated that call and gave Young the assignment to shoot the A-gap.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/9/30/17918990/osu-psu-reaction-analysis-2018
 
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I just don't understand the linebacker/field safety problems. How can you, at Ohio state, have a group that neither makes big plays nor is just solid--fundamental--be in your gap--make a tackle.

I know a lot of people blame Billy Davis. I just don't really buy that. The guy has coached defense/linebackers at the highest level for the past 20+ years. He can't be that bad.
 
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