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Ohio State @ Iowa, Wednesday Feb. 25, 9pm EST, BTN

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Mike80 said:
That's ridiculous. No one has quit on this team.

They looked undermanned and a little out of gas to me. We know the roster limitations they have, so having people out is a killer. And let's not forget, which you all seem to be doing, that Iowa is one of the better defensive teams in the entire nation - so having limitations on offense is a large hill to climb over as well. None of that equates to a team that Diebler has "lost" or quit....that's wishful thinking from those who want Deibler to fail.
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Agreed. This team looks really bad in some games because a couple times every year certain teams like Iowa the other night manage to basically stop the offense in its tracks & get them off their gameplan. It's happened in past years against Northwestern, too. Tilly not being able to go does impact the offense, he's a big who can pass and handle the ball, and obviously he has a bigger skillset than Ivan. The fact that Ivan was starting this game is a wake-up call for anyone who thinks OSU is investing in a competitive roster.
 
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DZ83CK said:
Agreed. This team looks really bad in some games because a couple times every year certain teams like Iowa the other night manage to basically stop the offense in its tracks & get them off their gameplan. It's happened in past years against Northwestern, too. Tilly not being able to go does impact the offense, he's a big who can pass and handle the ball, and obviously he has a bigger skillset than Ivan. The fact that Ivan was starting this game is a wake-up call for anyone who thinks OSU is investing in a competitive roster.
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nah just blame the coaching - it's far easier for lazy takes to flourish that way.....
 
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Mike80 said:
nah just blame the coaching - it's far easier for lazy takes to flourish that way.....
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Both things can be true. The coaching can be not good along with NIL not being good either. It's equally lazy to just excuse everything else because of NIL.

When it comes to Diebler so far, he's a coach with no figured-out identity of his own and it really shows with the team. The offense is usually just a mess of 5 guys trying to play 1 on 1 ball. which really only works if you have a absolutely loaded roster. Defensively the individual talent is not good but there is just no direction and cohesion as a unit, you can make up some for individual faults if you have a good plan in place, but we do not have that, the result is guys looking like they are lost a lot of the time and giving up the comical amount of wide open looks that we do. These are things that good coaches can somewhat mend with a good system and plan, now no coach is taking this team to the sweet 16 or beyond, but I don't think you let bad coaching off the hook just because Diebler doesn't have a highly funded roster. YES, NIL needs to get better. But the actual coaching by Diebler needs to wildly improve next season as well.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Both things can be true. The coaching can be not good along with NIL not being good either. It's equally lazy to just excuse everything else because of NIL.

When it comes to Diebler so far, he's a coach with no figured-out identity of his own and it really shows with the team. The offense is usually just a mess of 5 guys trying to play 1 on 1 ball. which really only works if you have a absolutely loaded roster. Defensively the individual talent is not good but there is just no direction and cohesion as a unit, you can make up some for individual faults if you have a good plan in place, but we do not have that, the result is guys looking like they are lost a lot of the time and giving up the comical amount of wide open looks that we do. These are things that good coaches can somewhat mend with a good system and plan, now no coach is taking this team to the sweet 16 or beyond, but I don't think you let bad coaching off the hook just because Diebler doesn't have a highly funded roster. YES, NIL needs to get better. But the actual coaching by Diebler needs to wildly improve next season as well.
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:lol:

We know Diebler kicked your puppy at some point in the recent past bro. Just because the limited roster isn't winning every game by 30 doesn't mean he isn't coaching his ass off to get every ounce of what this team has either...
 
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Mike80 said:
:lol:

We know Diebler kicked your puppy at some point in the recent past bro. Just because the limited roster isn't winning every game by 30 doesn't mean he isn't coaching his ass off to get every ounce of what this team has either...
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When have I ever said anything like that?

But yes the team being constantly out of whack on offense and defense and there being no real direction on offense or defense is totally not on the coaching at all lol.
 
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The Iowa game was a grade A master class in Diebler being in over his head as a coach. All it took was a timeout and some little adjustments and Iowa ran away from that point on. If you think Iowa has some big talent advantage you are lying to yourself.
 
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